Rutgers Womens Soccer

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i wonder how much tampering goes on Do coaches try to get the word out to a player that they’re interested in before that player enters the transfer portal?

If the player and coach mutually agree it’s time to move on then coaches will reach out to other teams that show an interest in that player and assist them in making a change. Players will reach out to other teams that were interested in them when being recruited. Those coaches already know the player so it’s an easier transition. The main point being a player looking to transfer needs to have established themselves playing in college. If they have little or no experience then the chances of transferring is minimal.

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If the player and coach mutually agree it’s time to move on then coaches will reach out to other teams that show an interest in that player and assist them in making a change. Players will reach out to other teams that were interested in them when being recruited. Those coaches already know the player so it’s an easier transition. The main point being a player looking to transfer needs to have established themselves playing in college. If they have little or no experience then the chances of transferring is minimal.

Yes but there are still surprise transfers and they come about many times due to a mediary making contact with player and new program.

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Just under 19% of student-athletes enter the transfer portal, and 11% rosters across the country are made up of transfers. For soccer those numbers are way lower, under 5% (but rising).

Approximately 1/3 of non-student-athletes (NARPs) transfer schools before graduating.

A lot (I don't have the number) of athletic transfers are grad years, but anecdotally that number appears to be way over half.

So, what that says is that you are much, MUCH more likely to stay at your original school if you are an athlete than you are if you are a NARP.

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Just under 19% of student-athletes enter the transfer portal, and 11% rosters across the country are made up of transfers. For soccer those numbers are way lower, under 5% (but rising).

Approximately 1/3 of non-student-athletes (NARPs) transfer schools before graduating.

A lot (I don't have the number) of athletic transfers are grad years, but anecdotally that number appears to be way over half.

So, what that says is that you are much, MUCH more likely to stay at your original school if you are an athlete than you are if you are a NARP.

Because the percentage of athletes are much smaller than the general population students. Hard to do an apples to apples comparison.

For athletes, the relaxation of transfer rules and ability to auto play (instead of sitting a yr) and transfer/auto play within conference (ivys and patriot leagues may be only exceptions to this rule still with service academies, etc), has been a game changer across the ncaa's, soccer included.

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Because the percentage of athletes are much smaller than the general population students. Hard to do an apples to apples comparison.

For athletes, the relaxation of transfer rules and ability to auto play (instead of sitting a yr) and transfer/auto play within conference (ivys and patriot leagues may be only exceptions to this rule still with service academies, etc), has been a game changer across the ncaa's, soccer included.

Percentage of athletes are smaller, percentage of transfers are smaller.

Face it, as of today, you are WAY more likely to switch your school if you are a NARP than if you are a soccer player. Somewhere like 10x as much. Today. Not sure about future state.

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Percentage of athletes are smaller, percentage of transfers are smaller.

Face it, as of today, you are WAY more likely to switch your school if you are a NARP than if you are a soccer player. Somewhere like 10x as much. Today. Not sure about future state.

Transfers I know in sports including soccer had no problem. I only know athletes in college so can't comment about general population kids.

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Transfers I know in sports including soccer had no problem. I only know athletes in college so can't comment about general population kids.

Not saying they will have a problem.

What I'm saying is anyone positioning that the college soccer transfer is out of control, doesn't realize it's a drop in the bucket compared to the regular student population.

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Not saying they will have a problem.

What I'm saying is anyone positioning that the college soccer transfer is out of control, doesn't realize it's a drop in the bucket compared to the regular student population.

Sure. But why do we care about the regular student population?

Regular student population do not have people behind the scenes working for them. Desired athlete-transfers do. Helping to get into classes, especially those that work around sports schedules; making transfer credits match up, getting housing, Wildly different experiences.

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RU is 9th in the Big10, not looking great.
questionable whether these players youth clubs are developing their skills/abilities for the next level with the natural talent in the NJ area

wrong players in wrong positions. This team could be doing better.

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Sure. But why do we care about the regular student population?

Regular student population do not have people behind the scenes working for them. Desired athlete-transfers do. Helping to get into classes, especially those that work around sports schedules; making transfer credits match up, getting housing, Wildly different experiences.

And, still, you are about 10X less likely to transfer as a women's soccer player than the general student population. Spending pages over a trivial matter with little affect is pointless. But, hey, it's TS, it's all pointless I suppose.

What I will say, is in the future (maybe even the very near future) as those numbers continue to rise it will become a bigger issue. The biggest thing I've noticed is freshman PT. Much more difficult to get PT as schools are bringing in grad students instead.

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And, still, you are about 10X less likely to transfer as a women's soccer player than the general student population. Spending pages over a trivial matter with little affect is pointless. But, hey, it's TS, it's all pointless I suppose.

What I will say, is in the future (maybe even the very near future) as those numbers continue to rise it will become a bigger issue. The biggest thing I've noticed is freshman PT. Much more difficult to get PT as schools are bringing in grad students instead.

The bonus year for graduate students with an extra year of eligibility ends next season.

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And, still, you are about 10X less likely to transfer as a women's soccer player than the general student population. Spending pages over a trivial matter with little affect is pointless. But, hey, it's TS, it's all pointless I suppose.

What I will say, is in the future (maybe even the very near future) as those numbers continue to rise it will become a bigger issue. The biggest thing I've noticed is freshman PT. Much more difficult to get PT as schools are bringing in grad students instead.

So the freshmen take a red shirt. What is the downside?

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So the freshmen take a red shirt. What is the downside?

Exactly, coaches help players come to that answer when they are told their playing time will be limited at best. The only issue is will the coach honor the athletic scholarship for the additional year.

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Up 2-0 against Michigan.

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So the freshmen take a red shirt. What is the downside?

Maybe the kid doesn't want to sit for a year and extend school just to play soccer. Some kids are students first.