Rutgers Womens Soccer

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A lot of PDA players want change. They may not want to be coached by MO and his staff in college that also coached them for years at PDA or spend more time at AP2T while in college just like they did when they played club ball.

Kids make decisions for all types of reasons. MO should consider that. May be time to step away from PDA.

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A lot of PDA players want change. They may not want to be coached by MO and his staff in college that also coached them for years at PDA or spend more time at AP2T while in college just like they did when they played club ball.

This right here is very likely a root cause. PDA produces very good players, many of them on the USWNT track, but more of the same old gets tiring. Unless MO makes it very, very enticing to attend RU those players are looking elsewhere for their "college experience" and they move on. If NJ held on to their big name players then RU could be a powerhouse.

BTW, before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, this is not to say that PDA is the only club that produces great players in NJ. I'm making a point about the MO, PDA, and RU connection.

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I don't know, would a NJ school be big time with all nj talent. What PDA or other club girls have went to other big schools and really succeeded or carried a load at those places in NCAA?

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Some of the club coaches and other players and their families may have been turned off by MO and PDA stuff so may not be actively getting info to players or supporting it.

That is the danger of being involved in the club level and competing against those you wish to recruit.

This ^^^ he is past his time and being out coached at his club and RU. Better coaches out there - unless your family or connected RU has become a last resort for majority Of the top players. Different than 5 years ago.

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This right here is very likely a root cause. PDA produces very good players, many of them on the USWNT track, but more of the same old gets tiring. Unless MO makes it very, very enticing to attend RU those players are looking elsewhere for their "college experience" and they move on. If NJ held on to their big name players then RU could be a powerhouse.

BTW, before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, this is not to say that PDA is the only club that produces great players in NJ. I'm making a point about the MO, PDA, and RU connection.

Many of them on USWNT track? Many were on USWNT track. No longer. Time to make a choice, youth or college. Focus on one.

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They are going to have to get lucky and land that one or two NJ players that are just hands down outstanding and win the whole thing or come close to it and then they will have a name to trade on. Not far fetch since they have produced some professional players in recent years. The team is solid but they are missing that difference maker.

Yes this poster is 100% correct. It’s the difference maker. As soon as Ali left, the team was not the same. The team plays well but can’t score easily enough. Rutgers in general will never pull in NJ’s best athletes, in any sport. Why? Bc one other college’s have a foot hold on the market and a reputation, which is hard to compete with. And two NJ residents hate when Rutgers has to borrow money to grow the program to compete with universities thats are well beyond Rutgers. IMO if Rutgers can catch lightning in a bottle once every 6 years that’s a success. And that’s just making it deep into the ncaa playoffs, and maybe winning the big 10.

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Yes this poster is 100% correct. It’s the difference maker. As soon as Ali left, the team was not the same. The team plays well but can’t score easily enough. Rutgers in general will never pull in NJ’s best athletes, in any sport. Why? Bc one other college’s have a foot hold on the market and a reputation, which is hard to compete with. And two NJ residents hate when Rutgers has to borrow money to grow the program to compete with universities thats are well beyond Rutgers. IMO if Rutgers can catch lightning in a bottle once every 6 years that’s a success. And that’s just making it deep into the ncaa playoffs, and maybe winning the big 10.

Agree, every program needs a “difference maker” that brings the level of play to a higher level. Success comes in cycles that comes with some luck as well. Unfortunately RU is in a very tough conference that is highly competitive. If they would have stayed in the Big East they would have had a great rivalry with Georgetown. They instead followed the money and decided to jump into the deep end of the Big Ten conference which is fine but they will always have to be swimming upstream against the big dogs in that conference. When it comes to recruiting the top out of state athletes/players they will always have to overcome the fact they are a State school located in NJ. Location, location, location.

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I will try and clip it and post. It was previously posted.

"There are plenty of top players and not enough spots.

And yes I would pick RU over others if I was not waiting several years to see the field. RU has different majors over some of these other teams too.

A big draw other Big10 schools have is a celebrated football team. They have a head start there. If
RU football takes off, the rest will take care of itself. Most people have no idea about the ancillary sports at a college, but they know football."

It was an answer but pretty hollow/shallow in the why. Nothing at Rutgers is better than those listed.

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Agree, every program needs a “difference maker” that brings the level of play to a higher level. Success comes in cycles that comes with some luck as well. Unfortunately RU is in a very tough conference that is highly competitive. If they would have stayed in the Big East they would have had a great rivalry with Georgetown. They instead followed the money and decided to jump into the deep end of the Big Ten conference which is fine but they will always have to be swimming upstream against the big dogs in that conference. When it comes to recruiting the top out of state athletes/players they will always have to overcome the fact they are a State school located in NJ. Location, location, location.

I agree with all of your points and will add that they went BIG TEN for money yes but not for soccer. All the power conferences are about Football and the RU girls soccer are just along for the ride. With all of the rearranging of Big Ten Rutgers may find themselves out if the Football team continues to be so poor

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Agree, every program needs a “difference maker” that brings the level of play to a higher level. Success comes in cycles that comes with some luck as well. Unfortunately RU is in a very tough conference that is highly competitive. If they would have stayed in the Big East they would have had a great rivalry with Georgetown. They instead followed the money and decided to jump into the deep end of the Big Ten conference which is fine but they will always have to be swimming upstream against the big dogs in that conference. When it comes to recruiting the top out of state athletes/players they will always have to overcome the fact they are a State school located in NJ. Location, location, location.

How is Rutgers supposed to recruit “top” out of state talent when 80% of NJ’s “top” talent goes out of state? Fact of the matter is there is nothing prestigious about going to Rutgers. And that’s what it’s all about. A “top” kid either goes to the best possible soccer program, in the best conferences, available to them. Or the most revered academic school they could possibly get into. Either one of those scenarios do not fit Rutgers. Rutgers gets kids who want to play close to home in front of their parents.

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How is Rutgers supposed to recruit “top” out of state talent when 80% of NJ’s “top” talent goes out of state? Fact of the matter is there is nothing prestigious about going to Rutgers. And that’s what it’s all about. A “top” kid either goes to the best possible soccer program, in the best conferences, available to them. Or the most revered academic school they could possibly get into. Either one of those scenarios do not fit Rutgers. Rutgers gets kids who want to play close to home in front of their parents.

All of these points are being made by adults rather than high school kids who have an entirely different perspective. If your kid is a top recruit with top choices they will pick the college that they can have the best overall college experience. I agree that for the most part that those stay at home do so because of family and financial reasons. RU/NJ is not a preferred destination. Anyone who thinks MO and his staff are fine with the current situation of relying on one program are crazy. In my opinion if MO left the program they wouldn’t get those few players that decide to stay instate. Then what?

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I agree with all of your points and will add that they went BIG TEN for money yes but not for soccer. All the power conferences are about Football and the RU girls soccer are just along for the ride. With all of the rearranging of Big Ten Rutgers may find themselves out if the Football team continues to be so poor

Exactly. It wasn't a soccer decision but football and basketball. Same with the hot mess going on with PAC 12 etc out west. The other sports are mostly stuck with whatever the revenue sports do

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I agree with all of your points and will add that they went BIG TEN for money yes but not for soccer. All the power conferences are about Football and the RU girls soccer are just along for the ride. With all of the rearranging of Big Ten Rutgers may find themselves out if the Football team continues to be so poor

Nope, Rutgers is not in Big 10 because of Rutgers football, but because of NJ/NYC area TV market, same as U. Maryland with DC/Baltimore area. Maryland and Rutgers are not your traditional big football schools.

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It was an answer but pretty hollow/shallow in the why. Nothing at Rutgers is better than those listed.

I read the response. It was pretty clear. Playing time. Kids will get it
I know plenty of kids that were good gets that went to the other schools and left or were unhappy due to being mislead or lied.
A reason FT returned.

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I agree with all of your points and will add that they went BIG TEN for money yes but not for soccer. All the power conferences are about Football and the RU girls soccer are just along for the ride. With all of the rearranging of Big Ten Rutgers may find themselves out if the Football team continues to be so poor

This ^^. RU football needs to step it up on multiple levels. The money will flow into the athletic program. Need a new Athletic Director.