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    #76
    Give me a break.

    Maybe just maybe soccer is not the most important thing to this family. Maybe private school education and higher SAT's are, and a better college choice are what is important. If soccer gave her an in to the private school, good for her.

    Her parents are under no obligation to keep her from playing there. Morgan Andrews played on her high school team, and I don't remember people jealous people coming on here and bashing her. Nor should Derryfield be expected to go up a division because of one student.

    I don't know this girl. I don't care if she scored a bunch of goals though. I care that soccer was an avenue for her to get a better education than public school has to offer. Anybody who doesn't understand this simply chooses to ignore that private high school makes a huge difference in later success of students. BG is not in the same league as far as education goes. Now soccer gets this girl in to Duke, how awesome for her. BUT her education at Derryfield is what will keep her at Duke. Morgan Andrews couldn't take it at Notre Dame maybe if she opted for a private school she would have been better prepared for the trials and tribulations of a big school college athlete.

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      #77
      School is what you make of it. My brother went to a private ISL school. He owns his own maintenance business and scrapes by.

      I have a friend who went to school with me at a Public HS; he's a brain surgeon. Stories about of all types from all schooling. Doctors, lawyers, business owners, Engineers, teachers, salesmen, etc. etc.

      Private school is more likely to get the door opened to college, but not a necessity and it certainly won't "keep her there". She didn't need the door opened, soccer did that. She will be the one to keep her there, but Derryfield.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        She didn't need the door opened, soccer did that. She will be the one to keep her there, but Derryfield.
        "Not" Derryfield.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          School is what you make of it. My brother went to a private ISL school. He owns his own maintenance business and scrapes by.

          I have a friend who went to school with me at a Public HS; he's a brain surgeon. Stories about of all types from all schooling. Doctors, lawyers, business owners, Engineers, teachers, salesmen, etc. etc.

          Private school is more likely to get the door opened to college, but not a necessity and it certainly won't "keep her there". She didn't need the door opened, soccer did that. She will be the one to keep her there, but Derryfield.


          Private high school certainly helps. You are deluding yourself to think otherwise. Yes there is are successes from public schools, but staff to student ratio is better, guidance is more involved, small group work and study skills are all emphasized and taught at an ISL. The smaller ratios are a big benefit to making kids college ready. I also don't know how old you are but public schools have changed in the years since I went there. The focus on testing, the crime, the disparity between incomes, and disparity in abilities in public school classrooms make it very hard for teachers to focus on any individual students.

          Jealousy is unbecoming. If you think you and your family will do just fine in public school that is your choice. This family has had more opportunities because of their daughter's soccer ability. That should be celebrated here, not bashed. We actually have no idea about her study habits, or scholastic ability. ISL certainly can help students who need more support, or would get lost in one of those larger class L schools. Really good for her.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Private high school certainly helps. You are deluding yourself to think otherwise. Yes there is are successes from public schools, but staff to student ratio is better, guidance is more involved, small group work and study skills are all emphasized and taught at an ISL. The smaller ratios are a big benefit to making kids college ready. I also don't know how old you are but public schools have changed in the years since I went there. The focus on testing, the crime, the disparity between incomes, and disparity in abilities in public school classrooms make it very hard for teachers to focus on any individual students.

            Jealousy is unbecoming. If you think you and your family will do just fine in public school that is your choice. This family has had more opportunities because of their daughter's soccer ability. That should be celebrated here, not bashed. We actually have no idea about her study habits, or scholastic ability. ISL certainly can help students who need more support, or would get lost in one of those larger class L schools. Really good for her.

            What you aren't getting is she is being celebrated...for her soccer ability. Once you started touting Derryfield as the cure all end all...well, I've seen too much good and bad from there, from public schools, and from ISLs both in and out of state in 40 years around here to see right through it all.

            Celebrate her soccer...get off the high horse about Derryfield.

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              #81
              Her soccer ability was being disparaged because someone stated her going to DS was akin to her parents placing her on a town team. She was being critiqued by someone for her choice of going to a private school, because she scored too many goals there. I was pointing out that maybe it wasn't about soccer for her and her family.

              I know incredibly successful people often come on to anonymous websites to disparage the choices of a young girl and her family. Public or private school doesn't matter when you are over 40 years old and don't have the incite to realize you have a chip on your shoulder.

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                #82
                No one posting here knows her situation and that of her family. It is all speculation for those who don't know her. Even the Union Leader didn't interview her directly. What I do know is that she certainly didn't choose Derryfield for their athletics. She plays for a club soccer team in Massachusetts in the top league for girls in the US. This summer she played in the WPSL with college age players. She certainly didn't decide to go to a Division IV school to pump up some high school stats that are meaningless to her goals. She was recruited to Duke from her club team, not her high school team.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I agree. This is akin to placing a top player from one of the better club team onto a top town team, and then playing the whole team in the lowest town league division. She shouldn't have been playing there, no matter if the rules allowed it or not. Not her fault, really, for giving it a try, but as soon as the parents realized how dominant she'd be, they should have either found a different situation for high school play, or just stuck with club and found other opportunities for her to train with higher level players (boys club team scrimmages, girls' college team practices, etc.).
                  Are you kidding me? She is expected to go to a different high school or find other opportunities to train because she is too dominant. I guess the high school valedictorians should find a new school since they are getting straight A's and ruining it for everyone else. Doesn't matter if their parents can't afford it, or they don't want to send them to a boarding school, or if their other siblings also attend that school. Shame on the parents of those smart kids for keeping them in that environment.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    no kidding. I mean, what was the expectation when she was put in this league to begin with? You are playing in NH D-III and D-IV. Basically...the lowest of the lows. So, you put a D1 scholarship player in that environment, then run the scores up and have she's scoring an ungodly amount of goals. This is exactly I would I expect to have happen.

                    Blame the parents for putting her in this environment to begin with.
                    The other option for her was the dominant D-III Bow playing with 2 other D1 players. You wouldn't have liked that either and she probably would have had more goals because she would have had more club players to play with and set her up.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Are you kidding me? She is expected to go to a different high school or find other opportunities to train because she is too dominant. I guess the high school valedictorians should find a new school since they are getting straight A's and ruining it for everyone else. Doesn't matter if their parents can't afford it, or they don't want to send them to a boarding school, or if their other siblings also attend that school. Shame on the parents of those smart kids for keeping them in that environment.
                      No, the idea is that since she is far above the level of competition, and that competition isn't maybe as "schooled" in playing the game. Maybe a bit rough around the edges, so to speak. So, by playing there, she is inviting the harsh tackles she is getting.

                      I'm actually applauding her decision to note play for Derryfield. I just think it should've happened earlier. And, by all accounts, she was bound for a great D1 soccer school no matter what HS she went to if she was a good student.

                      It's not jealousy, it's reality.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        No, the idea is that since she is far above the level of competition, and that competition isn't maybe as "schooled" in playing the game. Maybe a bit rough around the edges, so to speak. So, by playing there, she is inviting the harsh tackles she is getting.


                        I'm actually applauding her decision to note play for Derryfield. I just think it should've happened earlier. And, by all accounts, she was bound for a great D1 soccer school no matter what HS she went to if she was a good student.

                        It's not jealousy, it's reality.
                        You must be a ref at one of her high school games. The attitude that she is "inviting the harsh tackles" is probably one of the reasons she isn't playing. The laws of the game are supposed to be applied to everyone. I don't care if she is Carli Lloyd, if she gets fouled, it should be called. And if she is being targeted by other players, they deserve a yellow card. So either you are a ref or you are one of the parents who constantly yell "take her out!" Either way, you are flat out wrong.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You must be a ref at one of her high school games. The attitude that she is "inviting the harsh tackles" is probably one of the reasons she isn't playing. The laws of the game are supposed to be applied to everyone. I don't care if she is Carli Lloyd, if she gets fouled, it should be called. And if she is being targeted by other players, they deserve a yellow card. So either you are a ref or you are one of the parents who constantly yell "take her out!" Either way, you are flat out wrong.

                          Ha, no. I didn't say it was right that she was fouled often. I didn't even say they should or should not be called. I just said that in some areas of this tiny state, they aren't taught to respect their opponents as much. Especially if you are playing a very small town. These kids have no exposure to the game other than rec. So, if they are getting pounded by double-digits, their frustrations come out. I've been around HS soccer in this state for a very long time...decades...so I know a lot about many programs.

                          I am by no means defending the tactics. Just stating that the outcome was what one should've expected.

                          My, we are defensive aren't we. You are so quick to argue back you aren't even seeing the point that I'm complementing the poor girl.

                          Lay off. Not sure how close you are to her...but I hope she succeeds despite the suffocation that sounds like is going on.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Ha, no. I didn't say it was right that she was fouled often. I didn't even say they should or should not be called. I just said that in some areas of this tiny state, they aren't taught to respect their opponents as much. Especially if you are playing a very small town. These kids have no exposure to the game other than rec. So, if they are getting pounded by double-digits, their frustrations come out. I've been around HS soccer in this state for a very long time...decades...so I know a lot about many programs.

                            I am by no means defending the tactics. Just stating that the outcome was what one should've expected.

                            My, we are defensive aren't we. You are so quick to argue back you aren't even seeing the point that I'm complementing the poor girl.

                            Lay off. Not sure how close you are to her...but I hope she succeeds despite the suffocation that sounds like is going on.

                            I have been around NH soccer for a long time too, as well as other sports. I have seen the same thing happen to another great athlete who tried to play their high school sport and eventually quit. That is where I get defensive. People should be applauding these kids and wishing them well. You honestly wouldn't believe what these kids have put up with. I personally know a few things that would shock you about the treatment of these kids. Come on this site and applaud teams and players for doing great things. Commenting about kids when you don't know them or the situation is sad.

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                              #89
                              Any push to move to a 3 man referee system for high school? We have seen good and bad refs but really part of the problem is having only 2 refs. Lots of off the ball contact goes unseen and impossible to call offsides correctly from an angle.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I have been around NH soccer for a long time too, as well as other sports. I have seen the same thing happen to another great athlete who tried to play their high school sport and eventually quit. That is where I get defensive. People should be applauding these kids and wishing them well. You honestly wouldn't believe what these kids have put up with. I personally know a few things that would shock you about the treatment of these kids. Come on this site and applaud teams and players for doing great things. Commenting about kids when you don't know them or the situation is sad.
                                My gawd, let it go. I can't even figure out where you are going now.

                                Is she threatening to quit? How did that come up? I am applauding her, sounds like a great player. Good luck at Duke...do us proud.

                                *** are you looking for? Put up with? I've come from a family of athletes, all played 2 or 3 sports in HS, and all played in college. I think I know a little bit about a HS athlete.

                                All I've said is that her playing in a low-level HS was a waste of her time, and costs could've far outweighed any benefits. She is going to a great school and on a scholarship. Fantastic for her. Risking it all to get chopped by a jealous player out of Pittsfield isn't something I would do.

                                Trying to figure out what gripe is...and I'm at a loss.

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