Seacoast SC duped the NHIAA boys soccer

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I’ve been following soccer for quite some time and I have never witnessed the influence Seacoast has in NH. The recent NHIAA boys D1 All-Star seIection is clearly a monopoly. And if your is not part of seacoast club, than your kid an outsider.

I know someone is going to say I’m a bitter parent. Howeverr it’s very evident many parents and kids are beside themselves with the numerous posts. I won’t mention the texts I received or the conversations I had this evening.

Not taking anything away from those boys who were selected but, the coaches who participated in the voting are clearly seacoast coaches. I could highlight many but, here is a comical text I received this evening. Tell me how 2 Bedford midfielders get voted a defenders? And how do 5 Bedford players make the first team?

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I share your frustrations. They are not all seacoast coaches but Pepper and Diaz certainly pushed their boys,

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Bedford has had a conflict of interest history with seacoast. Every year they promote the club and if your kid does not join he is out or does not get the same treatment. The AD is a bit of a tool and can’t do a damn thing about it.

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I share your frustrations. They are not all seacoast coaches but Pepper and Diaz certainly pushed their boys,

The boys Bedford coaches remind me of the Laurel and Hardy British-American comedy show and by their inherent luck, they act like it.

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The boys Bedford coaches remind me of the Laurel and Hardy British-American comedy show and by their inherent luck, they act like it.

If can’t coach a winning squad made up of the all-stars first team, then you might as well sell your seacoast program.

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Uh, the coaches across the division vote. Kids aren't appointed by one team/coach. Sometimes the best soccer players don't have the team it takes to win it all but it doesn't mean they aren't good players.
The kids who play club year round will generally be better than a kid that plays for 4 months a year. There are exceptions, but they are rare. Until another club seriously gives Seacoast a run for it's money in the state it wouldn't be surprising that a majority of these accolades continue to go to Seacoast kids.

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Uh, the coaches across the division vote. Kids aren't appointed by one team/coach. Sometimes the best soccer players don't have the team it takes to win it all but it doesn't mean they aren't good players.
The kids who play club year round will generally be better than a kid that plays for 4 months a year. There are exceptions, but they are rare. Until another club seriously gives Seacoast a run for it's money in the state it wouldn't be surprising that a majority of these accolades continue to go to Seacoast kids.

This is really what it comes down to.

The largest club program in the state is of course going to have the most players. And, to reiterate, every coach votes so they don't have anymore of an influence for All-State than anyone else. They CAN influence Regional awards.

The better the team, the more votes you get. My daughter was on a team with the max number of players rewarded, and truthfully 2-3 got worked because they just weren't allowed to have that many. And, I know of players who have gone onto play in college, successfully, who weren't even NH All-State selections. It happens, but it isn't some nefarious plot to target kids. In every post-season award across every sport, better teams get way more players. This is no different.

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Pretty sure teams in the finals always get the max # of players. Why? Because they are good teams with good players who make each other better and they win. Let's not overthink it.

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Club is a Joke, I don't understand why people keep falling for sending their kids there. Honestly, it's the worst coaching I've seen. Kids come and go from their MLS teams because their coaches are not prepared to develop players

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Club is a Joke, I don't understand why people keep falling for sending their kids there. Honestly, it's the worst coaching I've seen. Kids come and go from their MLS teams because their coaches are not prepared to develop players

okie dokie

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Pretty sure teams in the finals always get the max # of players. Why? Because they are good teams with good players who make each other better and they win. Let's not overthink it.

Agreed just an annoyed dad. All the coaches vote and remember most coaches have seen these players for several years of high school they know how they play and how they stack up against the competition. But parents always have to whine.

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Agreed just an annoyed dad. All the coaches vote and remember most coaches have seen these players for several years of high school they know how they play and how they stack up against the competition. But parents always have to whine.

Happens every year. They always start out with "I know someone is going to say I’m a bitter parent" and then go out and prove it. Anyone with as much experience with NH Soccer as the OP insinuates would know how this works.

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I’ve been following soccer for quite some time and I have never witnessed the influence Seacoast has in NH. The recent NHIAA boys D1 All-Star seIection is clearly a monopoly. And if your is not part of seacoast club, than your kid an outsider.

I know someone is going to say I’m a bitter parent. Howeverr it’s very evident many parents and kids are beside themselves with the numerous posts. I won’t mention the texts I received or the conversations I had this evening.

Not taking anything away from those boys who were selected but, the coaches who participated in the voting are clearly seacoast coaches. I could highlight many but, here is a comical text I received this evening. Tell me how 2 Bedford midfielders get voted a defenders? And how do 5 Bedford players make the first team?

So you clearly don't understand the process: HS coaches nominate players form their own team to appear on the ballot. The HS coach nominates them at the position and supplies their stats and or argument in writing for the player. The nomination is added to the group ballot. The ballot is then sent to coaches after all nominations are in.

Then the HS coaches (not club) cast their votes for the players listed on the ballot. 2 points for 1st team vote and 1 point for 2nd team vote. A minimum of 5 total points is needed for Honorable Mention status.

Unless the SUSC Coach is a HS varsity coach (only the varsity coaches get to vote - verified via email address and NHSCA membership) then there is ZERO possibility that SUSC coaches are voting. You are making assumptions about something you have NO clue on.

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So you clearly don't understand the process: HS coaches nominate players form their own team to appear on the ballot. The HS coach nominates them at the position and supplies their stats and or argument in writing for the player. The nomination is added to the group ballot. The ballot is then sent to coaches after all nominations are in.

Then the HS coaches (not club) cast their votes for the players listed on the ballot. 2 points for 1st team vote and 1 point for 2nd team vote. A minimum of 5 total points is needed for Honorable Mention status.

Unless the SUSC Coach is a HS varsity coach (only the varsity coaches get to vote - verified via email address and NHSCA membership) then there is ZERO possibility that SUSC coaches are voting. You are making assumptions about something you have NO clue on.

I do believe BHS has boys coaches who are SUSC coaches. But, to your point, all they can do is nominate a player and they will vote for them (I assume). The rest is accurate far as I know.

It's also worth mentioning a player's position is up to the coach to decide. Some players play all over and some fan may consider them a defender, but the way a team plays they may have more attacking responsibilities and vice versa. One year my daughter was selected as a defender because that's what it said on the roster and how they started the game. But, as the game goes along she would play anywhere from a CB to a #6 or a #8 or even a #10. Heck she'd be a CF if that's what was called for. Shouldn't get too caught up in a position....