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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yeah we ordered a couple meals already from places we would go to and told them to bring it to someone who needs it or keep it in till. Etc etc

    And we do need to re-evaluate who is important. Stock brokers should mostly be earning minimum wage coming out of this and grocery clerks make at least twice that
    Yes isn't interesting that the GOP constantly blocks minimum wage bills, but it's those same workers - the store clerks, agricultural workers, meat processing workers, restaurant prep people - who are now VITAL to help the country get through this? God I hope the GOP loses bigly in November so we can try and get this country back onto a some semblance of a more level playing field. As far as I'm concerned the tax break for the top 10% should be repealed immediately. The US treasury will badly need the $.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Agreed but that doesn’t tell me why there aren’t conditions on what Mnuchin does with the funds. He can have discretion so long as his moves are immediately transparent
      The administration and the GOP don't know the meaning of the word transparent. Like someone said, offer low cost loans to companies that need it. If they don't really need it they are less likely to take it. As thing improve the US gets revenues coming back in and eventually paid back (for the most part. Some companies won't survive no matter what we throw at them).

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        Small business employees make up less than half of all employees. We need to be looking at all businesses and keeping all employees safe.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Small business employees make up less than half of all employees. We need to be looking at all businesses and keeping all employees safe.
          We need to bridge employees of dead industries who are citizens and let their businesses die. Here is example #1:

          Cruise industry. Trump is talking about giving them a bail out.

          1) most ships are flagged in foreign countries like Belize to avoid US taxes. So Belize should be giving those bail outs, not us.

          2) it’s a GLOBAL, employees across globe business so why is one country talking about bailing the world out?

          3) US employees of cruise lines will easily find higher paying jobs being high tech food service workers and cleaning just like on the ship only NOW elsewhere and ar higher pay and better working conditions.

          4) so it seems like the CEO’s of cruise lines are here but we don’t need to bail them out and maybe they can petition Belize for their ships

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            I've no issue with the cruise industry falling apart. Those mega ships are scourge on the environment. As said above, most aren't even US based and many employ people from around the world, not just US citizens.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Small business employees make up less than half of all employees. We need to be looking at all businesses and keeping all employees safe.
              But they also account for a huge % of total US businesses and are big drivers of employment gains. Smaller companies are also less likely to have robust benefit packages (read: health care) or deep pockets to weather the storm.

              https://sbecouncil.org/about-us/facts-and-data/

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                But they also account for a huge % of total US businesses and are big drivers of employment gains. Smaller companies are also less likely to have robust benefit packages (read: health care) or deep pockets to weather the storm.

                https://sbecouncil.org/about-us/facts-and-data/
                I'm not advocating anything against SMBs. On the contrary, much of my discretionary spending is with SMBs.

                What I am advocating for, though, is the continued support for large businesses as well. There will be many layoffs/furloughs with those businesses and we can't forget about those employees, either.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I'm not advocating anything against SMBs. On the contrary, much of my discretionary spending is with SMBs.

                  What I am advocating for, though, is the continued support for large businesses as well. There will be many layoffs/furloughs with those businesses and we can't forget about those employees, either.
                  Of course not. Just lots of conditions . No repeat of 2008

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I've no issue with the cruise industry falling apart. Those mega ships are scourge on the environment. As said above, most aren't even US based and many employ people from around the world, not just US citizens.
                    I'm ok with little funding to support the cruise industry, but that's also a bit selfish. I can't stand them, they don't hire many American workers.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Of course not. Just lots of conditions . No repeat of 2008
                      Exactly. Loans/emergency funds that have to be paid back. Totally agree.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I'm ok with little funding to support the cruise industry, but that's also a bit selfish. I can't stand them, they don't hire many American workers.
                        Because most are offshore registered they can get away with terrible working conditions and pay as well. The amount of waste they dump in the oceans is insane, with no consequences. If it shrinks to 1/4 of the industry's current size I won't shed a tear. You couldn't pay me enough to go on one before Covid, and now you'd have to take me onboard as ashes in an urn (and that would be against my last wishes).

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                          The national shortage of N95 respirator masks can be traced back to 2009 after the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, when the Obama administration was advised to replenish a national stockpile but did not, according to reports from Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times.

                          A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished of the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak, according to the Los Angeles Times.
                          https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...s-warned-about

                          Bloomberg News reported similar findings.
                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ffice-supplies

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                            Paul defended his handling of the situation, saying he got tested simply because he and his wife had traveled extensively in recent weeks and he's at higher risk due to having part of his lung removed following an assault.

                            "I felt that it was highly unlikely that I was positive since I have had no symptoms of the illness, nor have I had contact with anyone who has either tested positive for the virus or been sick," he said.

                            Paul said he remains "asymptomatic" and said to his critics: “For those who want to criticize me for lack of quarantine, realize that if the rules on testing had been followed to a tee, I would never have been tested and would still be walking around the halls of the Capitol. The current guidelines would not have called for me to get tested nor quarantined. It was my extra precaution, out of concern for my damaged lung, that led me to get tested.

                            "Perhaps it is too much to ask that we simply have compassion for our fellow Americans who are sick or fearful of becoming so. ... The broader the testing and the less finger-pointing we have, the better."

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Paul defended his handling of the situation, saying he got tested simply because he and his wife had traveled extensively in recent weeks and he's at higher risk due to having part of his lung removed following an assault.

                              "I felt that it was highly unlikely that I was positive since I have had no symptoms of the illness, nor have I had contact with anyone who has either tested positive for the virus or been sick," he said.

                              Paul said he remains "asymptomatic" and said to his critics: “For those who want to criticize me for lack of quarantine, realize that if the rules on testing had been followed to a tee, I would never have been tested and would still be walking around the halls of the Capitol. The current guidelines would not have called for me to get tested nor quarantined. It was my extra precaution, out of concern for my damaged lung, that led me to get tested.

                              "Perhaps it is too much to ask that we simply have compassion for our fellow Americans who are sick or fearful of becoming so. ... The broader the testing and the less finger-pointing we have, the better."
                              Special treatment. My old man doesn't have a lung (lymphoma), can he get tested too?

                              He took the test THEN went to the Senate gym. Completely irresponsible thing to do until you've gotten your results. Did his wife go out as well? If he was potentially positive, the odds she was too were very high.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                "Perhaps it is too much to ask that we simply have compassion for our fellow Americans who are sick or fearful of becoming so. ... The broader the testing and the less finger-pointing we have, the better."
                                Says the guy who doesn't want more Americans to have healthcare. He has great healthcare, for life.

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