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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    If the court (or SCOTUS) force subpoenaed witnesses to testify it's going to get ugly. Will Trump's lackeys be willing to spend time in fail for him? If they actually show up, will they just take the 5th, which looks terrible? Will they start cutting backroom deals to protect themselves?
    "time in fail" what are you trying to say? Perhaps you are the Russian troll we are looking for? Or Ukrain Troll? Or Chinese Troll Perhaps? ...dumb_ss libby.

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      Cons hate it that Schiff follows the rules

      This just now



      Hmnnn ....”just after “ you know given the bounty of new evidence I’m please Dems are staying close to the schedule we hoped for


      I suggest you go back and read the full article mentioned above. Democrats aren't as smart as they think they are.

      Schiff, the impeachment leader, declared that Ukrainians fighting Russian-backed forces are “fighting our fight too, to defend our country against Russian aggression.” In reality, Ukrainians are fighting a war that the United States helped start by backing the overthrow of a democratically elected Ukrainian government in 2014. President Barack Obama, who bears some responsibility for that war, tried to scale it back by rejecting intense Beltway pressure to send the military funding now at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. Among those national security state voices whose pleas Obama rebuffed was Bill Taylor, the Democrats’ opening witness.

      If Democrats weren’t so invested in championing military spending that President Obama once resisted, they might see other phone calls beyond the July 25 Trump-Zelensky conversation to take issue with. In closed-door testimony, Pentagon official Laura Cooper revealed that concern about the frozen military funding arose after the defense department heard complaints from the funding’s prime beneficiaries: weapons manufacturers. After mid-August, Cooper said, “various folks in the Department started to get phone calls from industry”—the military industry that wanted its weapons purchased. “All of these US firms that were implementing [the weapons sales to Ukraine]—they were getting concerned,” Cooper added. So was the US Chamber of Commerce, which called her as well.

      In a different time, a liberal opposition movement might be raising concerns of its own about war-profiteering phone calls; or the merits of fueling a war on the borders of the world’s other top nuclear power; or doing so in a way that arms and empowers far-right forces incorporated within the Ukrainian military. Instead, Democrats have been enlisted to champion that proxy war and the coffers of the military firms that profit from it.

      As Democrats and media outlets devote endless hours to venerating a procession of hawkish bureaucrats and parsing their every word, issues that materially affect the lives of average voters are going—just as they were in the Russiagate era—largely ignored.

      And for all of the speculation about a Trump presidency in peril and Republicans jumping ship, some signs point in a different direction. “As a political matter,the longer this goes, it is a real opportunity for Republicans to paint Democrats as unconcerned about the issues voters care more about,” a Republican strategist told The New York Times. Eyeing that chance, Republicans are discussing a strategy that would prolong a Senate impeachment trial as long as possible so as to overshadow the Democratic primary—“potentially keeping six contenders in Washington until the eve of the Iowa caucuses or longer,” The Washington Post notes.... an impeachment process that to date has failed to substantiate its core allegation, and it is hard not to wonder if Democrats are staging a Russiagate sequel in more ways than one: “bombshells” that fizzle out, dangerous Cold War chauvinism emboldened, and Trump handed another gift for the fast-approaching 2020 campaign.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Is Title con is a Russian troll? He didn't catch that Thanksgiving is one word.
        Didn’t catch that but I have noticed that many of his “typos” involve confusion over homonyms. Exactly what one might expect from someone speaking ESL pretty proficiently but not nailing down the nuances

        Excellent catch though - I’m more convinced than ever ...

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          Ah cons turning up the word count but this just dropped

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal....co/sDBYR5UXrs

          Subpoenas to the max for Giuliani associates.

          Wow. Trumps second personal lawyer gonna be arrested and jailed and will cons still say “I see NUTTING!”

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            No they do not

            Do Democrats Realize How Much Trouble They’re In?

            https://issuesinsights.com/2019/11/2...e-in/#comments

            - Start with the impeachment polls. Whatever hopes Democrats had of removing Trump from office, or even significantly damaging his reelection hopes, appear to be fading – a fact even the mainstream media is having to admit.

            - Independents see impeachment as more important to politicians and the media than to them, by huge margins of 62% to 22% and 61% to 23%, respectively.

            - The current Gallup poll, which shows Trump’s approval rating at 43%. That is exactly where Obama’s was at this point in his presidency. And Obama’s approval rating came despite the fact that he had a fawning media at his feet.

            - While the impeachment train sputters, the Democratic presidential field continues to under-perform and weaken.

            - Just how weak the Democrats’ lineup is came into high relief when both Michael Bloomberg and Deval Patrick decided to enter the race just months before the Iowa caucuses. As the New York Times put it, their entry at the 11th hour “highlighted the growing anxiety among some Democrats that the 18-person field is more rich in quantity than quality. “

            - If Democrats continue to advertise to the public that they are too old, too far left, too driven by Trump Derangement Syndrome, and too out of touch with the concerns of the public, Trump could end up winning reelection by a landslide.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Ah cons turning up the word count but this just dropped

              https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal....co/sDBYR5UXrs

              Subpoenas to the max for Giuliani associates.

              Wow. Trumps second personal lawyer gonna be arrested and jailed and will cons still say “I see NUTTING!”
              Ain't it funny how the libs scream about foreign interference, but take the words of two Ukrainians over that of the former mayor of New York City?

              liberals = hypocrites

              Guarantee those subpoenas show zilch. Giuliani isn't that stupid and the Ukrainians are looking at ways to stay out of jail.

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                From the ‘transcript’ provided by Trump of the (perfect 😂) call...

                Zelensky: I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

                Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though...

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                  You libs just don't get it. Every day there is another "We got him this time" moment that goes up in flames. The American public is no longer listening. You've cried wolf one too many times.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Ain't it funny how the libs scream about foreign interference, but take the words of two Ukrainians over that of the former mayor of New York City?

                    liberals = hypocrites

                    Guarantee those subpoenas show zilch. Giuliani isn't that stupid and the Ukrainians are looking at ways to stay out of jail.
                    Libs aren’t taking the word of any of these misfits. That’s what the subpoenas are for... to get at the hard evidence that will reveal the truth.

                    And btw, yes, Giuliani is that stupid. Lol

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      From the ‘transcript’ provided by Trump of the (perfect 😂) call...

                      Zelensky: I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

                      Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though...
                      Where's the part that says, "I'm not releasing military aid until you investigate Joe Biden and his son"?

                      I believe, I assume, I presume on your part just doesn't cut it.

                      Sorry libs, Time to put Ukrainegate to bed. You lost another round to Trump.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You libs just don't get it. Every day there is another "We got him this time" moment that goes up in flames. The American public is no longer listening. You've cried wolf one too many times.
                        Drip
                        Drip
                        Drip
                        Drip

                        The impeachment bucket is slowly filling up with evidence. You cons just don't see the big picture yet.

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                          And anyone with any sense at all knows that a person who pals around for many years with many people who have since become convicted felons is very likely to become a convicted felon himself. Can’t wait.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Drip
                            Drip
                            Drip
                            Drip

                            The impeachment bucket is slowly filling up with evidence. You cons just don't see the big picture yet.
                            Cons have been thoroughly conned by the Con Man. Many of them, incredibly, will be in genuine disbelief/shock when he is hauled away in handcuffs.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Other aggregates actually show the gap between impeach vs not impeach closing. As the Ukraine scandal broke it was about 51% dont' impeach, 40% impeach. Now it's 45.6% don't support impeachment while 46.3% support it, a statistical dead heat. What will the con say to that? :)

                              https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/
                              The FiveThirtyEight average of polls shows that 41% of independents approve of impeachment, down from 48% a few weeks ago.

                              Democrats are losing Independents.

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                                As you saw, assuming you actually watched the hearings, the unelected bureaucrats went up day in and day out and nothing came of it to support Democrats contentions. People, especially independents. are looking at it as a total waste of time and saying, "What are we doing on USMCA?" "What are we doing on opioids, prescription drugs, infrastructure, the business of the nation?" Nancy's answer: " Nothing!

                                Pelosi hints USMCA may not come up for a vote this year
                                https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/pe...trump-congress

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