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I agree, and am okay with us trying to get a favorable election result in a foreign country if it suits our strategy. We can't be surprised when foreign countries try to do the same to us.
That said, why wasn't there a more prominent focus on Trumps relationship with the Russians, if any exist, until he became President. Surely the CIA, FBI, NSA and others would have been chasing down any and all leads, if they had the slightest suspicion of wrong doing. Let's remember, they had illegal surveillance measures in place, yet nothing was acted on until the election was over.

There was a decent amount of reporting on the relationship pre-election. He denied and lied about it, and downplayed relationships with various shady characters. It's not the FBI/CIA/NSA's job to fact-check every claim about a candidate. People are already freaking out that any attention was paid to the Fusion GPS reporting, can you imagine if the full force of the major agencies were used against him in the election?

He's an international businessman, he has major entanglements. Everyone knew that. Enough people diddnt care, and he got elected. Now more info about real estate deals, which smell like money laundering, are emerging. May or may not pan out.

my source for these matters have been Rachel Maddow and Seth Abramson's (twitter) reporting. Take that for what you will.

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There was a decent amount of reporting on the relationship pre-election. He denied and lied about it, and downplayed relationships with various shady characters. It's not the FBI/CIA/NSA's job to fact-check every claim about a candidate. People are already freaking out that any attention was paid to the Fusion GPS reporting, can you imagine if the full force of the major agencies were used against him in the election?

He's an international businessman, he has major entanglements. Everyone knew that. Enough people diddnt care, and he got elected. Now more info about real estate deals, which smell like money laundering, are emerging. May or may not pan out.

my source for these matters have been Rachel Maddow and Seth Abramson's (twitter) reporting. Take that for what you will.

We all know that if you dig deep enough you will find something on anybody. Trump certainly has skeletons to hide. I just haven't been convinced that the Russian's ever had any sort of cooperation from DRT, when it came to the election. It's possible that some bad characters were trying and some unwittingly got pulled into precarious situations, but to call it collusion by the entire campaign is ridiculous.

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We all know that if you dig deep enough you will find something on anybody. Trump certainly has skeletons to hide. I just haven't been convinced that the Russian's ever had any sort of cooperation from DRT, when it came to the election. It's possible that some bad characters were trying and some unwittingly got pulled into precarious situations, but to call it collusion by the entire campaign is ridiculous.

To me this whole thing is a political farce intended to undermine his agenda. Desperate Dem's will go to any length to make sure he fails.

What they don't realize is that, ultimately, the country suffers because of it.

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We all know that if you dig deep enough you will find something on anybody. Trump certainly has skeletons to hide. I just haven't been convinced that the Russian's ever had any sort of cooperation from DRT, when it came to the election. It's possible that some bad characters were trying and some unwittingly got pulled into precarious situations, but to call it collusion by the entire campaign is ridiculous.

I touched on that in the middle paragraph of post #28789.

No one says collusion.
No one says entire campaign.

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Okay, let's go and arrest Barak Hussein Obama for failing to keep his oath of office. If what you say is true, he allowed this to happen. He swore an oath to protect this country form threats both foreign and domestic. As Commander and Chief, he would have surely been aware of the seriousness of the Russian government's plot to manipulate our election and insert a candidate of their choosing into the highest office in the land.

When national security is at stake, a sitting President shouldn't be concerned about how his actions will look politically.

ok.

Good luck with that.

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There are 130 White House staffers handling classified information who have 'interim' security clearance. How long have they have they been 'interim'? Beyond the 90-180 days that is allowed?

And even more amazingly there are 15-20 staffers handling classified information that have a status of 'unclearable'!

The Trump White House is an active crime scene.

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Trump yesterday at Parkland

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There are 130 White House staffers handling classified information who have 'interim' security clearance. How long have they have they been 'interim'? Beyond the 90-180 days that is allowed?

And even more amazingly there are 15-20 staffers handling classified information that have a status of 'unclearable'!

The Trump White House is an active crime scene.

That’s an FBI created dilemma. Same situation occurs with staffers in the House and Senate and in previous administrations.
Shouldn’t be happening, but you can’t pin this on the current administration.

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Dream on. It is a Trump phukup.

Why is he hiring so many people who can’t get clearances because of shady backgrounds?
People who lie (“oh, I forgot”) on their forms and have to make a correction. Not once, not twice, but several times. Many of these people have questionable associations with foreign entities. Others beat their wives.

Trump himself would be declared “unclearable” if he were a new hire.

This administration is just an all around clusterphuck.

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Just how stupid, or desperate, is Manafort. He’s got Mueller and team all over him and he goes and commits bank fraud. He wants sooo bad to get released on bail so he can try to flee to Mother Russia. Lol

Not happening. Gates is cutting a deal with Mueller and Manafort will too. No doubt he has some excellent dirt on Trump.

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Dream on. It is a Trump phukup.

Why is he hiring so many people who can’t get clearances because of shady backgrounds?
People who lie (“oh, I forgot”) on their forms and have to make a correction. Not once, not twice, but several times. Many of these people have questionable associations with foreign entities. Others beat their wives.

Trump himself would be declared “unclearable” if he were a new hire.

This administration is just an all around clusterphuck.

He is a new hire. He was deemed “clearable” by the voters.

When I have started at a new job, not in gov’t, I have been vetted pretty thoroughly.
Background checks, reference follow ups, financial & credit inquiries, drug tests, educational verification and more. Incidentally, I don’t handle classified information.

If my employer/HR discovered a problem with any of this, I likely would not be hired. The FBI acts as HR for these staffers, why don’t they send them packing when discrepancies and uncertainty are present? They are performing the background checks...they can’t share most of the information they discover, due to privacy laws. They understand that these people will be exposed to sensitive information, why do they allow it?

I think we need to face the facts, that gov’t is broken. It’s easier to let this occur than having to deal with the fallout of denying employment to a politically connected individual and possible discrimination lawsuits. As you mentioned, second and third chances, we have created a system that enables the scumbags.

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You need to read up on the process. The FBI does not “act as HR”.

The FBI performs the background check and then passes along their findings to the White House. The decision to keep/release personnel based on the findings rests with the WH. The buck stops with Trump. As usual, though he is pointing fingers anywhere else.

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Btw, the people who voted for Trump obviously don’t have a freaking clue about vetting.

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Just how stupid, or desperate, is Manafort. He’s got Mueller and team all over him and he goes and commits bank fraud. He wants sooo bad to get released on bail so he can try to flee to Mother Russia. Lol

Not happening. Gates is cutting a deal with Mueller and Manafort will too. No doubt he has some excellent dirt on Trump.

I’m no lawyer, but isn’t Manafort a defense attorneys dream? He has a long history of being a shady operator and has connections to criminal enterprises. He has committed fraud on more than one occasion. How could his coerced testimony or his business partner, Gates’, be considered admissible?

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You need to read up on the process. The FBI does not “act as HR”.

The FBI performs the background check and then passes along their findings to the White House. The decision to keep/release personnel based on the findings rests with the WH. The buck stops with Trump. As usual, though he is pointing fingers anywhere else.

The FBI is the security apparatus for our gov’t. If they are clearing people with uncertain backgrounds and letting the WH make the determination, then the system is broken.
When the FBI hires a new agent, do you think they follow this same protocol? Of course not. If a potential hire doesn’t pass muster, they are cut loose.

What’s the point of having the FBI involved in the process, if they don’t weed people out? The WH should just employ a head hunter and hope for the best.