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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    How's that any different than Obama? Go back to the early posts in this forum and you'll see my comments rightly calling Obamacare Pelosi/Reidcare.
    You Cons are completely ignorant, detached from reality, ... or both.

    In 2010, Obama Defended His Health Care Plan Before The GOP On Live TV. Things Have Changed.

    In January 2010, less than two months before President Barack Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law without a single GOP vote, he presented Republicans with what must have seemed like a golden opportunity.

    Obama would attend the annual House GOP retreat in Baltimore and open himself up to more than an hour of questioning, during which lawmakers could press him on any aspect of his agenda. With controversy swirling around health care reform, Republicans could use the occasion to poke holes in the president’s plan and perhaps even expose him as the dangerous and ill-prepared leader they’d been demonizing for the last year, if not longer.

    If that was the plan, it didn’t work. For more than 80 minutes, Obama fielded aggressive questions from lawmakers on live television, pushing back against the tone of partisan hostility and offering up a pointed defense of the legislation now better known as Obamacare. Looking back, the display of candor and competence offers a stark contrast to the current health care debate going on in Washington ― which has focused specifically on undoing Obama’s hallmark legislative achievement.

    As Raw Story points out, some of Obama’s best jabs at the 2010 event were against Republicans who are now in President Donald Trump’s administration. When Georgia Rep. Tom Price, now secretary of Health and Human Services, asked Obama why he wouldn’t support a GOP version of health care reform, the president told him the proposal simply wasn’t feasible.

    “If you say, ‘We can offer coverage for all Americans and it won’t cost a penny,’ that’s just not true,” said Obama. “You can’t structure a bill where suddenly 30 million people have coverage and it costs nothing.”

    Obama went on to say that he would be willing to consider Republican proposals so long as independent budget authorities and experts could verify that they made economic sense. The plans would have to pass a “test of realism,” he said.

    “I am absolutely committed to working with you on these issues, but it can’t just be political assertions that aren’t substantiated when it comes to the actual details of policy,” Obama told Price.

    “Otherwise, we’re going to be selling the American people a bill of goods,” Obama said. “The easiest thing for me to do on the health care debate would have been to tell people that what you’re going to get is guaranteed health insurance, lower your costs, all the insurance reforms, we’re going to lower the costs of Medicare and Medicaid and it won’t cost anybody anything. That’s great politics; it’s just not true.”

    Fox News, seemingly unpleased with the spectacle, cut away from the broadcast 20 minutes before it ended.

    GOP officials would go on to admit that televising the event was a “mistake.”

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      How's that any different than Obama? Go back to the early posts in this forum and you'll see my comments rightly calling Obamacare Pelosi/Reidcare.
      ..speaking of Obama, remember " Cash for Clunkers" ?.
      Well three Economists ( MIT ,Texas A & M ) have now analyzed the facts , circumstances and consequences of the program and have concluded that it actually cost the American Industry around $ 4 Billon dollars. A total disaster , a failure.

      Source : Foundation For Economic Education.

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        Would love to see Trump go on national tv and discuss the Republican "health care" bill in detail.

        But it won't ever happen. With this bill or any other bill. Because he's a dumbphuck and a coward.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Would love to see Trump go on national tv and discuss the Republican "health care" bill in detail.

          But it won't ever happen. With this bill or any other bill. Because he's a dumbphuck and a coward.
          Well now I can understand you missing the lectures over the past 8 years.

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            It must be embarrassing for you Cons to have to resort to

            But, but, but ... Clinton
            But, but, but ... Obama

            Have at it.

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              "The Democratic Party has mastered lying to itself and its core constituencies. It claims a progressive identity, but is as moderate and lukewarm as it has ever been on so many issues that matter to everyday people. It claims to be tough on Wall Street, financial corruption and white collar crime, but is awash in donations from lobbyists and executives in the industry. Democrats claim to be the party of working people, but so often seem to be deeply out of touch with their problems and needs."

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You Cons are completely ignorant, detached from reality, ... or both.

                In 2010, Obama Defended His Health Care Plan Before The GOP On Live TV. Things Have Changed.

                In January 2010, less than two months before President Barack Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law without a single GOP vote, he presented Republicans with what must have seemed like a golden opportunity.

                Obama would attend the annual House GOP retreat in Baltimore and open himself up to more than an hour of questioning, during which lawmakers could press him on any aspect of his agenda. With controversy swirling around health care reform, Republicans could use the occasion to poke holes in the president’s plan and perhaps even expose him as the dangerous and ill-prepared leader they’d been demonizing for the last year, if not longer.

                If that was the plan, it didn’t work. For more than 80 minutes, Obama fielded aggressive questions from lawmakers on live television, pushing back against the tone of partisan hostility and offering up a pointed defense of the legislation now better known as Obamacare. Looking back, the display of candor and competence offers a stark contrast to the current health care debate going on in Washington ― which has focused specifically on undoing Obama’s hallmark legislative achievement.

                As Raw Story points out, some of Obama’s best jabs at the 2010 event were against Republicans who are now in President Donald Trump’s administration. When Georgia Rep. Tom Price, now secretary of Health and Human Services, asked Obama why he wouldn’t support a GOP version of health care reform, the president told him the proposal simply wasn’t feasible.

                “If you say, ‘We can offer coverage for all Americans and it won’t cost a penny,’ that’s just not true,” said Obama. “You can’t structure a bill where suddenly 30 million people have coverage and it costs nothing.”

                Obama went on to say that he would be willing to consider Republican proposals so long as independent budget authorities and experts could verify that they made economic sense. The plans would have to pass a “test of realism,” he said.

                “I am absolutely committed to working with you on these issues, but it can’t just be political assertions that aren’t substantiated when it comes to the actual details of policy,” Obama told Price.

                “Otherwise, we’re going to be selling the American people a bill of goods,” Obama said. “The easiest thing for me to do on the health care debate would have been to tell people that what you’re going to get is guaranteed health insurance, lower your costs, all the insurance reforms, we’re going to lower the costs of Medicare and Medicaid and it won’t cost anybody anything. That’s great politics; it’s just not true.”

                Fox News, seemingly unpleased with the spectacle, cut away from the broadcast 20 minutes before it ended.

                GOP officials would go on to admit that televising the event was a “mistake.”
                You are using Raw Story as a source???

                Bwahahaha!

                Let me suggest you Google "Raw Story bias" and see what comes up.

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                  Keep chasing that tail Teehee!
                  Woof! Woof!

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You are using Raw Story as a source???

                    Bwahahaha!

                    Let me suggest you Google "Raw Story bias" and see what comes up.
                    Obama ate the Republicans' lunch on national TV. It was beautiful.

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                      Trump's personal lawyer is completely psycho! Not exactly the kind a guy you want when going up against some of the best lawyers/prosecutors in the country.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Trump's personal lawyer is completely psycho! Not exactly the kind a guy you want when going up against some of the best lawyers/prosecutors in the country.
                        I know right? He must have been surprised when the FBI showed up to discuss those threats he memorialized in four separate emails. I'm sure Mueller is intimidated about how kAsowitz is bullying a private citizen with "watch your back *itch"

                        MeAnwhile Susan Collins said "nyet" to latest sente revisions to health bill and said GOP should work with Dems to strengthen ACA

                        Just a little extra "win" for nutters at end of day

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                          Where's the king nutter today?

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                            So now we have a "former" Soviet intelligence officer turned "lobbyist" at that don jr meeting

                            Funny day for Bore-us to be absent

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                              "If it is to regain electoral viability, the Democratic Party's next standard-bearer can't be someone comfortably ensconced in one of these elite strata, where politics is more a matter of cultural affectation than life-or-death exigency. It also can't be someone who looks back on the Obama years with unadulterated fondness, because whatever you think about the man personally, Obama presided over a long period of fermenting discontent which culminated in the electorate opting to gamble on one of the most outlandishly anomalous candidates in all of American history."

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So now we have a "former" Soviet intelligence officer turned "lobbyist" at that don jr meeting

                                Funny day for Bore-us to be absent
                                Can I get some fries with that nothingburger?

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