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Once Kaine takes office, will there be a revolt from the far left? He splits from the Bernie/Liz line pretty clearly, and I felt his selection was an appeasement to the moderates. His predecessor was famous for trying to play both sides of the coin. Will he do the same...or stick with her agenda that she laid out originally?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOnce Kaine takes office, will there be a revolt from the far left? He splits from the Bernie/Liz line pretty clearly, and I felt his selection was an appeasement to the moderates. His predecessor was famous for trying to play both sides of the coin. Will he do the same...or stick with her agenda that she laid out originally?
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[T]he Post-ABC poll finds 58 percent of Americans overall approve of President Obama’s job performance, the highest since July 2009 and continuing the positive movement since December when he stood at 45 percent.
Note how those numbers fly in the face of what the cons say on this board. Numbers don't lie that's an esxcellent approval for a lame duck president.
He was simply several times better than the best the republicans had to offer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDesperation. Pretty much concedes victory to dems and then imagines a scenario that assuages butt hurt with some kind of make -up prize. Funny.
con·cede
kənˈsēd/
verb
verb: concede; 3rd person present: concedes; past tense: conceded; past participle: conceded; gerund or present participle: conceding
1.
admit that something is true or valid after first denying or resisting it.
So, back to the question. Once he takes office, will a more centrist agenda take shape? Will the party let that happen?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostShould be worth a few points on the campaign trail when he asks for a third term.
Note how those numbers fly in the face of what the cons say on this board. Numbers don't lie that's an esxcellent approval for a lame duck president.
He was simply several times better than the best the republicans had to offer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSince I'm not a Con, I have nothing to concede.
con·cede
kənˈsēd/
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verb: concede; 3rd person present: concedes; past tense: conceded; past participle: conceded; gerund or present participle: conceding
1.
admit that something is true or valid after first denying or resisting it.
So, back to the question. Once he takes office, will a more centrist agenda take shape? Will the party let that happen?
Besides Given it was VA Kaine governed like a socialist. Nine months as a Jesuit volunteer in Honduras. Don't worry about him. Probably a waste of your time to manufacture imagined scenarios like that but if it makes ya happy ....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOr, 59% of the people look at who is being nominated now and think "sheesh, maybe he wasn't so bad after all."
Must be great news for trump.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo. There have already been reports that the warren/sanders block has brokered agreement that the insider party is over so it will be boo hoo for centrists at cabinet level.
Besides Given it was VA Kaine governed like a socialist. Nine months as a Jesuit volunteer in Honduras. Don't worry about him. Probably a waste of your time to manufacture imagined scenarios like that but if it makes ya happy ....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostRemind me ....he will be on campaign trail supporting ? And Biden and warren will be supporting ?
Must be great news for trump.
One has a 59% approval rating, for the reasons stated above in my opinion. One has a 41% approval rating...and dropping.
Seems those who approve of Obama don't really approve of Hillary.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTrying to correlate the two, and having a hard time.
One has a 59% approval rating, for the reasons stated above in my opinion. One has a 41% approval rating...and dropping.
Seems those who approve of Obama don't really approve of Hillary.
Hillary has promised to stay the course, but has none of the charm, wit or grace of Obama. I think it hurts her to have him on the trail, by comparison she looks awful. He is vibrant, hip, energetic and is a great presenter (not speaker, as he can't do it well without a teleprompter). HRC is just a bad campaigner. Even those that like her agenda, do not really like her.
I disagree with Obama on almost every issue, but it is difficult to argue that the guy is a master politician. HRC not so much.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn the latest Rasmussen poll, 65% believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.
Hillary has promised to stay the course, but has none of the charm, wit or grace of Obama. I think it hurts her to have him on the trail, by comparison she looks awful. He is vibrant, hip, energetic and is a great presenter (not speaker, as he can't do it well without a teleprompter). HRC is just a bad campaigner. Even those that like her agenda, do not really like her.
I disagree with Obama on almost every issue, but it is difficult to argue that the guy is a master politician. HRC not so much.
But, I do agree with your overall point. Getting people to follow you comes to two ways: Believe in the message or, more important, believe in the person. This is where Obama shined, IMO. As much as detractors just say it was his color, the reality is he is and remains able to speak to a large, and growing, portion of the country. He can relate, talk hip, play some hoops, have a beer, show up at concerts, etc. Not going as far as calling him a snake oil salesman, but many vote for him just because he's cool. Not even saying that's a bad thing.
Then you have Oranjina, and your friend's grandma. Neither are holding a candle to how Obama can work a crowd. Kudos to him in that regard.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI understand what you are saying. I think/may disagree with her not being a master politician. She's led a life in politics (public servant as some would say...) so she has to be doing something right. I can't all be the "Clinton" name, can it?
But, I do agree with your overall point. Getting people to follow you comes to two ways: Believe in the message or, more important, believe in the person. This is where Obama shined, IMO. As much as detractors just say it was his color, the reality is he is and remains able to speak to a large, and growing, portion of the country. He can relate, talk hip, play some hoops, have a beer, show up at concerts, etc. Not going as far as calling him a snake oil salesman, but many vote for him just because he's cool. Not even saying that's a bad thing.
Then you have Oranjina, and your friend's grandma. Neither are holding a candle to how Obama can work a crowd. Kudos to him in that regard.
Pretty clear from the emails and DNC scandal that she was once again hand picked for the Dem nomination. And Sanders took her to the convention despite her unfair advantage. She is struggling mightily to put away a very unique/odd candidate in Trump. If this were 2008, Obama would have a 20 point lead. She is slightly ahead or tied depending on who you believe. A horrible campaigner, a bad politician and an incredibly unlikeable person.
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