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    Two completely separate issues , but Progressives love to keep the picture blurred. The incarceration rates , especially for minorities started to escalate under guess who, Bill Clinton. The fact that illegals are at the same rate is irrelevant, as they are in a different strata of society.
    So listen here....that and the rest of your screed reads like a white nationalist manifesto I need to set something straight.

    No human being is in a different strata than any other. If that's where a lib and con separate fine. I don't even consider a POS like you to be in a different strata because I know where all that hater-think leads. The sewer pit where you live and breathe.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      A deportation force of 40,000 will cost $3B annually in pay and benefits at $75k per. This does not include the cost of infrastructure training and equipment which easily could come in at another $100,000 per employee. The cost of transportation for 1m deportees will exceed $1B. The incalculable costs due to abandoned mortgages, the cost of caring for minor children who are citizens, the replacement cost for paying higher wages for menial tasks (if that is even possible given the labor shortage...) are probably even more. Add $100B for a wall. I know ask this question. How is this being funded? Where are your fruits and vegetables coming from, your roofers, your day workers for construction jobs, your landscapers????? We all love simple solutions but none of you nutters have grasped the complexity of what you want to happen, the cost, and the social and economic upheaval that will ensue.
      Minority unemployment rates, especially teens have increased under Obama, for teens , it is in double digits. There are nearly 40 million, or more, people in this country that aren't working. Your logic is kind of like saying, don't spend the $ 1800 dollars to fix the water heater, because it is only leaking $ .45 a day in water, and we are only going to live another 10 years. America will be around for hopefully much longer.

      The drain on the country economically, and the very limited reality that any of the 12 million or so will leave on its own, suggests that the situation will only get worse. As the economies in Central and South America continue to struggle, it will get worse. right now illegals are probably 4 % of the population. Should we wait until it is 6 %, 9 % ? Then what ?
      I had my roof done recently, and each and every worker was a legal citizen.

      And guess what. When they hear South of the Border that the path for illegals just got tougher, less will try and come. If they heard that the benefit party is over, less will come. Many of them are in a panic because Trump may win. You can see them in California protesting with Mexican flags and signs that say ' Make America Mexico again " . Yep, complete with bandanas across their face so the cameras can't pick up on their faces.
      These are the type of people that Progressives want in oor country.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        So listen here....that and the rest of your screed reads like a white nationalist manifesto I need to set something straight.

        No human being is in a different strata than any other. If that's where a lib and con separate fine. I don't even consider a POS like you to be in a different strata because I know where all that hater-think leads. The sewer pit where you live and breathe.
        And now the insults...right on schedule.

        " hater" ? S orry but I love my country. And unlike Michelle Obama , I have loved it for a very long time. And I don't discriminate at all. I even have the Obama letter for deceased Veterans ( family member ) hanging up in my office.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
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          It seems that unless the white men can each vote twice, maybe even three times would be necessary, this one is over. I think many of us are on here arguing with a dying and increasingly small minority. Let's not let them get the mistaken impression that they are actually a serious group of individuals. We have seen how they act like whiny a $ $ titty babies when they believe they actually have something to say people want to hear.

          I suggest levity.
          It's not as if Hillary is a lot better.

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...able-1131.html

          Funny thing today, as I was driving around this morning, I had on the radio Jim Braude and Margery Eagan. Didn't catch who their guest was but they were discussing the fear in Europe and the business world if Trump is elected. As I listened to the reasoning of the guest I'm wondering, am I listening to a Republican or a Democrat? The rationale was the same as the Republican elite, yet I believe the man a Clinton supporter. According to whoever the guest was Europe is fearful because Trump is going to pull the plug on Americans being the defender of the free world and actually expect the Europeans to start footing the bill. The globilist business world is scared to death that Trump is going to screw up their good thing. Braude, believe it or not, was actually sympathetic to Trump's perspective on both. And as I'm listening I'm thinking Trump maybe a crazy bast ard, but these people are scared to death that he's going to upset the status quo which got us in the mess we see ourselves but keeps them in power. Meanwhile the little guy continues to get screwed.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            So listen here....that and the rest of your screed reads like a white nationalist manifesto I need to set something straight.

            No human being is in a different strata than any other. If that's where a lib and con separate fine. I don't even consider a POS like you to be in a different strata because I know where all that hater-think leads. The sewer pit where you live and breathe.
            If you a legal US citizen , you are in that strata.
            If you are an illegal immigrant living in America , you are in the strata of illegal immigrants in America.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You really need to go lie down and calm yourself. You are running around and behaving like that child who is stamping their feet and holding their breath. If you can't compete in the marketplace of ideas with anything more than your naked assertions, perhaps you shouldn't think you have anything to contribute until you can present it in a way that rational, thinking people might find persuasive.
              Mr. I hate solar selectively pulls information from Wikipedia..... and then ignores within the same article the fact that 30% of all new power generation is from Solar. Wind is about the same. Coal is dead - yet mr I love small particulates lodged in my lungs and acid rain insists that the coal industry needs propping up so it doesn't die its own dirty bloated death....

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Mr. I hate solar selectively pulls information from Wikipedia..... and then ignores within the same article the fact that 30% of all new power generation is from Solar. Wind is about the same. Coal is dead - yet mr I love small particulates lodged in my lungs and acid rain insists that the coal industry needs propping up so it doesn't die its own dirty bloated death....
                and as this lib has said....take it from one who grew up with king coal.....whose father and uncles and grandfathers worked coal deposits in this country and some mined back in the old country...its time is up. over. we don't need it and it hurts us. dismantle it.

                nutters just aren't aware. if we didn't burn coal, we could eat a little more tuna fish without poisoning ourselves with mercury. they just don't get it.

                btw, I though ex lax was taking the day off? I guess he went and got himself all aroused again. Look out folks at home. Hope he doesn't kick the dog tonight just to vent. he really needs people to beat up on.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  And now the insults...right on schedule.

                  " hater" ? S orry but I love my country. And unlike Michelle Obama , I have loved it for a very long time. And I don't discriminate at all. I even have the Obama letter for deceased Veterans ( family member ) hanging up in my office.
                  you wrap your hatred of "other" in the flag like a charlatan. I love this country too so don't wrap your hatred in that. You don't define it anymore than anyone else.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Mr. I hate solar selectively pulls information from Wikipedia..... and then ignores within the same article the fact that 30% of all new power generation is from Solar. Wind is about the same. Coal is dead - yet mr I love small particulates lodged in my lungs and acid rain insists that the coal industry needs propping up so it doesn't die its own dirty bloated death....
                    Wikipedia ????

                    My source is the United States Dept. of Energy.
                    For 2015

                    US electricity by energy source

                    Coal 33 %
                    Natural gas 33 %
                    Nuclear energy 29 %
                    Hydro 6 %
                    Bio Mass 1.6 %
                    Geothermal .4 %
                    Solar .6 %
                    Other gasses < 1 %

                    Data updated 3/29/2016

                    Unless you think the Federal Government is lying.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      and as this lib has said....take it from one who grew up with king coal.....whose father and uncles and grandfathers worked coal deposits in this country and some mined back in the old country...its time is up. over. we don't need it and it hurts us. dismantle it.

                      nutters just aren't aware. if we didn't burn coal, we could eat a little more tuna fish without poisoning ourselves with mercury. they just don't get it.

                      btw, I though ex lax was taking the day off? I guess he went and got himself all aroused again. Look out folks at home. Hope he doesn't kick the dog tonight just to vent. he really needs people to beat up on.
                      Great strides have been made reducing the emissions of coal burning plants. Regardless, the United States has 26 % of the world's Coal supply. Additionally, it has been the least expensive method of producing electricity since 1976. Luckily, while we wring our hands and spend tens of billions while we wait for renewables to take over this portion of the 67 % fossil fuel generation, we will have over 275 years left of coal in the ground. 65 % is surface mined.

                      Production of electricity by natural gas increased to record levels in 2014.

                      Long range forecasts are for increasing coal prices as Obama and Progressives attempt to close the lid on coal production. So while waiting for Progressives to rescue us , we will be paying more and more. I am still waiting for the plans that show me how 67 % of electricity by fossil fuels will be replaced anytime soon.

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                        More evidence of the left's isn't interested in hearing anything but their approved version of issues.

                        Did Facebook bury conservative news? Ex-staffers say yes

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d=ss_fb-bottom

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          More evidence of the left's isn't interested in hearing anything but their approved version of issues.

                          Did Facebook bury conservative news? Ex-staffers say yes

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d=ss_fb-bottom
                          Dear moron,

                          I have already told you that I have engaged with the stars of the tea party and nutter land online.

                          You are aware one need to register on nutter sites like breitbart and others to comment. You are also aware I hope how even the most polite discussion that doesn't hew to the party line has had my registration immediately revoked.

                          Of course, it's different I guess when another private entity does something not fen as egregious.

                          FB is a business. I suspect it's core demographic news liberal. It's a matter of good business that they wouldn't alienate them.

                          This is separate from the general question of whether "aggregator" sites like FB and Breitbart manipulating and massaging and selecting the news that people see is a good thing. I personally don't rely on what these sites pipe to me, I prefer direct relationships with the front pages of news sites that I have done a bit of due diligence on. To do otherwise is naive.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Great strides have been made reducing the emissions of coal burning plants.
                            Let's see reducing toxic and poisonous emissions to a somewhat less poisonous and toxic level vs opting for new technology that emits less or none of the same toxic emissions. One that is also cost competitive outright and more so when you factor in the externalized costs that the coal industry distributes.

                            Back home, there are many, many fresh waterways spoiled by King coal. If king coal would financially remediate that to the public, no one would burn another nugget because it is too expensive.

                            This is the core of the con game. As long as you can crap on someone else and reduce your cots, do it.

                            Tell me. Visibility on a clear day is less than half what it was on a clear day decades ago? Any clue why? Particulates. From burning crap. What do you think the cost of all the extra medical treatment for cancers, asthma, pulmonary diseases, etc has been? Shouldn't the injuring parties bear that cost rather than an already ovburdened national health system?

                            Tee hee

                            Say something smart and on point here ex lax. Spotlight on you.
                            Regardless, the United States has 26 % of the world's Coal supply.
                            But we account for 20% of the world's coal fired generation even though we have 4% of people. Face it. We use as much as we do because we have been slow to let go of antiquated infrastructure. Same deal as our crap roads and bridges that we still rely on dirty, dirty, dirty, unhealthy poison your child coal.



                            Additionally, it has been the least expensive method of producing electricity since 1976. Luckily, while we wring our hands and spend tens of billions while we wait for renewables to take over this portion of the 67 % fossil fuel generation, we will have over 275 years left of coal in the ground. 65 % is surface mined.
                            As long as experts can submit bills to the coal companies for the true costs of blowing tops of mountains and surface mining the way they do back home, I'm down with that because now the true cost of coal revealed would allow market forces to sweep it away fast because it actually cannot compete with renewables fairly.

                            In other words as soon as corporate welfare and externalizing costs isn't available to coal, it will quickly exit stage left.

                            Production of electricity by natural gas increased to record levels in 2014.
                            That's nice. No one arguing we don't have to burn some fossils for a bit and that gas is cleaner and strategically better given domestic supply.

                            Long range forecasts are for increasing coal prices as Obama and Progressives attempt to close the lid on coal production. So while waiting for Progressives to rescue us , we will be paying more and more. I am still waiting for the plans that show me how 67 % of electricity by fossil fuels will be replaced anytime soon.
                            That's just squeezing a few last dollars out as the every dwindling coal customers that have to get it can be run up the flagpole. Capitalism and all, right? I've said already that I've never seen mining as furious as now in my lifetime after a recent visit home. Not an accident. They need to get that coal out now BEFORE proposals mature to keep that carbon in the ground in a few years. Battle isn't over but we are.....

                            WINNING!

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Dear moron,

                              I have already told you that I have engaged with the stars of the tea party and nutter land online.

                              You are aware one need to register on nutter sites like breitbart and others to comment. You are also aware I hope how even the most polite discussion that doesn't hew to the party line has had my registration immediately revoked.

                              Of course, it's different I guess when another private entity does something not fen as egregious.

                              FB is a business. I suspect it's core demographic news liberal. It's a matter of good business that they wouldn't alienate them.

                              This is separate from the general question of whether "aggregator" sites like FB and Breitbart manipulating and massaging and selecting the news that people see is a good thing. I personally don't rely on what these sites pipe to me, I prefer direct relationships with the front pages of news sites that I have done a bit of due diligence on. To do otherwise is naive.
                              Look in the mirror little p when calling anyone a moron. First it was the Vox guy, now it is the Facebook guy and guess what little p? Now it's the New York Times guy. To quote Kristof, the college classroom has become an echo chamber, not the sounding board of ideas it is suppose to be. But you lunatics on the left will come back defending the one message wonder of a liberal education.

                              A Confession of Liberal Intolerance

                              http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/op...ance.html?_r=0

                              I hate to even use the term "liberal" when describing people like you, you have so corrupted the word from it's true meaning.

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                                Another example. Again to quote Kristof, diversity on campus is encourage as long as you are part of the group think approved by the liberals in power.

                                BOSTON, May 6, 2016—In a stunning attack on freedom of association, Harvard University announced today*that members of independent, single-sex, off-campus organizations will be blacklisted from Rhodes and Marshall scholarships and banned from leadership of on-campus organizations or athletic teams.

                                Harvard President Drew Gilpin Faust stated that next year, members of fraternities, sororities, and “final clubs” will begin to be denied these opportunities in an effort to foster “inclusion” and “address deeply rooted gender attitudes.” According to Dean Rakesh Khurana, who recommended the changes, such organizations have been independent from Harvard since 1984. They operate as off-campus entities and do not receive any recognition or benefit from the university.

                                “Harvard’s decision simply demonstrates that it is willing to sacrifice students’ basic freedom of association to the whims of whoever occupies the administrative suites today,” said FIRE co-founder, civil liberties attorney, and Harvard Law alumnus Harvey Silverglate. “Who’s to say that Harvard’s leaders five years from now won’t decide that Catholics or Republicans should be blacklisted because they might not line up with Harvard’s preferred values?”

                                https://www.thefire.org/harvard-brin...rity-students/

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