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Dont disagree but the US looks as bad or worse.

Another strong condemnation from our President. A couple more responses like this and the problem will be solved.

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Domestic terrorism strikes again.

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Another strong condemnation from our President. A couple more responses like this and the problem will be solved.

So now the Genie is out of the bottle after years of profiling, systemic abuses of police power, marginalization of minorities and all you want to do is criticize the President. WE, all of us, have created the situation we are now in. We are all partly responsible for the deaths of these policemen. Of course the person who pulls the trigger is primarily responsible but the notion that Obama holds any more of the blame than you or I is sheer ignorance.

I agree with several top police chiefs. It is time to get the police out of the civil traffic enforcement business. This is the primary source of constitutional infringement of rights, and confrontations between police and civilians. Let the cops handle crime and create civilian traffic enforcement similar to parking enforcement. This solves many problems. Discuss.

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Can't blame me, and I won't be lumped in there needlessly.

Were you out protesting this weekend? What are you doing vs. just scolding on a message board?

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So now the Genie is out of the bottle after years of profiling, systemic abuses of police power, marginalization of minorities and all you want to do is criticize the President. WE, all of us, have created the situation we are now in. We are all partly responsible for the deaths of these policemen. Of course the person who pulls the trigger is primarily responsible but the notion that Obama holds any more of the blame than you or I is sheer ignorance.

I agree with several top police chiefs. It is time to get the police out of the civil traffic enforcement business. This is the primary source of constitutional infringement of rights, and confrontations between police and civilians. Let the cops handle crime and create civilian traffic enforcement similar to parking enforcement. This solves many problems. Discuss.

Discuss?
I would love to have a discussion with you on this topic, but you have such an outrageously warped view on all of this that I realize a rational discussion is impossible and a waste of my time.
Obama and people like you are the most responsible for these police assassinations. You wish to turn racial profiling into a death sentence for cops! Insanity and hypocrisy at it's absolute zenith!

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Discuss?
I would love to have a discussion with you on this topic, but you have such an outrageously warped view on all of this that I realize a rational discussion is impossible and a waste of my time.
Obama and people like you are the most responsible for these police assassinations. You wish to turn racial profiling into a death sentence for cops! Insanity and hypocrisy at it's absolute zenith!

Your idea of civil traffic enforcement, a novel idea, would result in civil traffic enforcement workers being murdered.

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Can't blame me, and I won't be lumped in there needlessly.

Were you out protesting this weekend? What are you doing vs. just scolding on a message board?

Protesting what? The heavy handed arm of the law. Best quote ever from a Russian immigrant who lived under Communism: "Gee, for a free country you sure have a lot of laws". Too many laws and too much police involvement in purely civil matters. Traffic enforcement has become an investigative tool for police and that leads to needless confrontations and violations of the Constitution. Return police to dealing with criminals and we will ratchet down the violence on both ends.

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Protesting what? The heavy handed arm of the law. Best quote ever from a Russian immigrant who lived under Communism: "Gee, for a free country you sure have a lot of laws". Too many laws and too much police involvement in purely civil matters. Traffic enforcement has become an investigative tool for police and that leads to needless confrontations and violations of the Constitution. Return police to dealing with criminals and we will ratchet down the violence on both ends.

Criminals don't ride around in cars?

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Your idea of civil traffic enforcement, a novel idea, would result in civil traffic enforcement workers being murdered.

How so? How many parking enforcement officers get killed each year? They are unarmed and have frequent interactions with the public. Civil enforcement could be done purely by video. No need to even have a ticket handed out and any interaction between the officer and the public. Dash video documents the infraction. The video clip and violation gets sent in the mail. You can appeal or pay. The technology exists. This frees up the cops to deal with the real bad guys. Not some Black Republican US Congressman coming home from work and pulling into his driveway in a Mercedes in a "white" neighborhood. "Where'd you get that nice car BOY????" or some guy driving with his girlfriend with a broken taillight.

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Criminals don't ride around in cars?

So the multiple police chiefs supporting this idea are wrong? What did cops do before the 1930's??????

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Criminals don't ride around in cars?

you mean DWB?

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How so? How many parking enforcement officers get killed each year? They are unarmed and have frequent interactions with the public. Civil enforcement could be done purely by video. No need to even have a ticket handed out and any interaction between the officer and the public. Dash video documents the infraction. The video clip and violation gets sent in the mail. You can appeal or pay. The technology exists. This frees up the cops to deal with the real bad guys. Not some Black Republican US Congressman coming home from work and pulling into his driveway in a Mercedes in a "white" neighborhood. "Where'd you get that nice car BOY????" or some guy driving with his girlfriend with a broken taillight.

How would you get an effective traffic enforcement dept.? Unless you're suggesting that only the law abiding citizenry should be subjected to the rules of the road. Tell me how many unarmed, $20/hour traffic enforcement employees would pursuit an unregistered car with tinted windows, broken tail lights, ear drum perforating bass, doing 60 mph in a school zone in Mattapan? My guess is most would choose to ignore it an give a ticket to the guy in the Jeep that didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Let the lawlessness begin!
Oh, and when the former cars occupants kill an innocent person during their drive by shooting - I hope it's not someone you know.

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How would you get an effective traffic enforcement dept.? Unless you're suggesting that only the law abiding citizenry should be subjected to the rules of the road. Tell me how many unarmed, $20/hour traffic enforcement employees would pursuit an unregistered car with tinted windows, broken tail lights, ear drum perforating bass, doing 60 mph in a school zone in Mattapan? My guess is most would choose to ignore it an give a ticket to the guy in the Jeep that didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Let the lawlessness begin!
Oh, and when the former cars occupants kill an innocent person during their drive by shooting - I hope it's not someone you know.

Typical nutter. So very effective at profiling and coming up with all the ways to maintain the status quo even when it is clearly entering an utter fail mode. Never any rational peaceful solutions. Only the application of failed ideas over and over....

I forgot to pay my dogs $7 license fee. A cop showed up at my door with a warrant to pay. Good use of police huh? Or how about the time 4 cops showed up at a neighbors house to arrest an 80 year old woman for building code violations because she installed a sink in her upstairs garage loft which they deemed to be an in-law apartment (which are "illegal" in my town...).

As of now cops are typically abandoning high speed chases because too many innocent people die. Civilian Parking enforcement works. It controls behavior for most people.

Time to rethink everything. Current system is failing.

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How would you get an effective traffic enforcement dept.? Unless you're suggesting that only the law abiding citizenry should be subjected to the rules of the road. Tell me how many unarmed, $20/hour traffic enforcement employees would pursuit an unregistered car with tinted windows, broken tail lights, ear drum perforating bass, doing 60 mph in a school zone in Mattapan? My guess is most would choose to ignore it an give a ticket to the guy in the Jeep that didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Let the lawlessness begin!
Oh, and when the former cars occupants kill an innocent person during their drive by shooting - I hope it's not someone you know.

http://www.boston.com/news/local-new...c-stop-crashes


See how things escalate? Now justice is served given that the driver died. What if the passenger died? They had no choice in what the driver did....

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Typical nutter. So very effective at profiling and coming up with all the ways to maintain the status quo even when it is clearly entering an utter fail mode. Never any rational peaceful solutions. Only the application of failed ideas over and over....

I forgot to pay my dogs $7 license fee. A cop showed up at my door with a warrant to pay. Good use of police huh? Or how about the time 4 cops showed up at a neighbors house to arrest an 80 year old woman for building code violations because she installed a sink in her upstairs garage loft which they deemed to be an in-law apartment (which are "illegal" in my town...).

As of now cops are typically abandoning high speed chases because too many innocent people die. Civilian Parking enforcement works. It controls behavior for most people.

Time to rethink everything. Current system is failing.

The current is system is working fine. OBEY THE LAW!

yes perfect use pay your license fee and keep that mutt on a leash and pick up its crap while your at it. I don't want unlicensed apartments in my neighborhood - obey the law!

OBEY THE LAW! The response to civilian traffic enforcement was right on! Dumbest idea ever!