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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ever notice how whenever the real issues of our own government's assault on privacy the left immediately releases some story like the ones TeeHeeMan mentions in his post? You can depend on it. And as usual the stories come from "anonymous government sources".
    Ever notice how the left is always accusing Trump of trying the distract from the "real" issue of Russian/Trump collusion? Me thinks the left is projecting. After all we see the TeeHeeMan doing exactly that in everyone of his posts.

    "I don’t think we can say anything definitively at this point."
    - House Intelligence Committee top Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Those stories are all over the newspapers and TV.

      Not being carried on "Russia today"? Then guess you haven't seen
      Reported by the Washington Post first and as we've come to realize, the Washington Post has lost all credibility in the age of Jeff Bezos. The New York Times we know have an extremely liberal bias in reporting, but they haven't been caught dispensing fake news like the WaPo has.

      Shall I revise the list of "fake news" the Washington Post has been responsible for in recent months? Here's just one from this week.

      Tillerson Ordered State Department Workers to Avoid Eye Contact

      http://www.aim.org/on-target-blog/fa...d-eye-contact/

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Ever notice how the left is always accusing Trump of trying the distract from the "real" issue of Russian/Trump collusion? Me thinks the left is projecting. After all we see the TeeHeeMan doing exactly that in everyone of his posts.

        "I don’t think we can say anything definitively at this point."
        - House Intelligence Committee top Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)
        Oh, Tee Hee can always say something definitively at every point. He's always wrong, but that hasn't ever stopped him....

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I'm taking bets on Ben Rhodes' involvement, you know the guy who manipulates the media by creating echo chambers.

          Susan Rice Ordered Spy Agencies To Produce ‘Detailed Spreadsheets’ Involving Trump

          http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/03/su...#ixzz4dHMsxLgE
          Just imagine what TeeHeeMan would be saying if Dick Cheney did to Obama what Rice has done to Trump.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Ever notice how the left is always accusing Trump of trying the distract from the "real" issue of Russian/Trump collusion? Me thinks the left is projecting. After all we see the TeeHeeMan doing exactly that in everyone of his posts.

            "I don’t think we can say anything definitively at this point."
            - House Intelligence Committee top Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)
            "Despite WH attempts to distract, Congress must thoroughly investigate Russia's interference in our elections. We know they will do so again"

            -Adam Schiff

            Same adam Schiff?

            Do you agree with this by your new shiny object ?

            "When McConnell deprived President Obama of a vote on Garland, it was a nuclear option. The rest is fallout."

            - adam Schiff

            So picking what you like (as if daisies) of endorsing opinions of adam Schiff?

            Tell us ! Tell us !

            We could just let investigations by adam Schiff proceed and trump could keep his fingers off...what say you? You seem to see Schiff as a fair broker here ...how about we get to bottom of it and trump stop meddling?

            Endorse that

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Just imagine what TeeHeeMan would be saying if Dick Cheney did to Obama what Rice has done to Trump.
              Obama wasn't a law breaker like trump.

              See nutteErs clouding water by idle musings

              What laws were broken? Specifically ....we KNOW four or five of flynns offenses ...

              See that trump executed secret addendum to trust allowing him to secretly move money from businesses ...without informing public


              TRANSPARENCY

              Troop deployments now secret

              TRANSPARENCY

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                Let's see if TeeHeeMan has any comment to make on this one.

                Bwahahaha!

                You know who Chris Hedges is, right TeeHeeMan? I'm not so sure because you had no idea who Cent Uygar was. He's an American Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, professor at Princeton University, and a Progressive, a very left wing intellectual.

                Bwahahaha!

                "The liberal elites, who bear significant responsibility for the death of our democracy, now hold themselves up as the saviors of the republic. They have embarked, despite their own corruption and their complicity in neoliberalism and the crimes of empire, on a self-righteous moral crusade to topple Donald Trump. It is quite a show. They attack Trump’s “lies,” denounce executive orders such as his travel ban as un-American and blame Trump’s election on Russia or FBI Director James Comey rather than the failed neoliberal policies they themselves advanced.

                Where was this moral outrage when our privacy was taken from us by the security and surveillance state, the criminals on Wall Street were bailed out, we were stripped of our civil liberties and 2.3 million men and women were packed into our prisons, most of them poor people of color? Why did they not thunder with indignation as money replaced the vote and elected officials and corporate lobbyists instituted our system of legalized bribery? Where were the impassioned critiques of the absurd idea of allowing a nation to be governed by the dictates of corporations, banks and hedge fund managers? Why did they cater to the foibles and utterings of fellow elites, all the while blacklisting critics of the corporate state and ignoring the misery of the poor and the working class? Where was their moral righteousness when the United States committed war crimes in the Middle East and our militarized police carried out murderous rampages? What the liberal elites do now is not moral. It is self-exaltation disguised as piety. It is part of the carnival act.

                The liberal class, ranging from Hollywood and the Democratic leadership to The New York Times and CNN, refuses to acknowledge that it sold the Democratic Party to corporate bidders; collaborated in the evisceration of our civil liberties; helped destroy programs such as welfare, orchestrate the job-killing North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, wage endless war, debase our public institutions including the press and build the world’s largest prison system.

                “The truth is hard to find. The truth is hard to know. The truth is more important than ever,” reads a television ad for The New York Times. What the paper fails to add is that the hardest place to find the truth about the forces affecting the life of the average American and the truth about empire is in The New York Times itself. News organizations, from the Times to the tawdry forms of entertainment masquerading as news on television, have rendered most people and their concerns invisible. Liberal institutions, especially the press, function, as the journalist and author Matt Taibbi says, as “the guardians” of the neoliberal and imperial orthodoxy.

                It is the job of the guardians of orthodoxy to plaster over the brutal reality and cruelty of neoliberalism and empire with a patina of civility or entertainment. They pay homage to a nonexistent democracy and nonexistent American virtues. The elites, who live in enclaves of privilege in cities such as New York, Washington and San Francisco, scold an enraged population. They tell those they dismiss as inferiors to calm down, be reasonable and patient and trust in the goodness of the old ruling class and the American system. African-Americans have heard this kind of cant preached by the white ruling class for a couple of centuries.

                Because the system works for the elites, and because the elites interact only with other elites, they are mystified about the revolt rising up from the decayed cities they fly over in the middle of the country. They think they can stuff this inexplicable rage back in the box. ..."

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                  Isn't it amazing .....same rhetoric as years ago about "liberal elites" etc

                  Let me restate trump campaign coordinated with Russian govt financed entities to create ads against opponents using illegally obtained information.

                  No discussion of legalities there . The people who were on to it and investigating it are the lawbreakers according to trump.

                  Let that sit there ok? There were just a dozen readers in thread and I think all but boris / Ivan and their sick puppet can evaluate that.

                  Going down. Treason

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                    "The system that works for elites"

                    Trump billionaire

                    Cabinet worth as much as large percentage of America

                    Trumpkinsnand his billionaires are the elites you Carp about moron.

                    How many from Goldman in his admin?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Obama wasn't a law breaker like trump.

                      See nutteErs clouding water by idle musings

                      What laws were broken? Specifically ....we KNOW four or five of flynns offenses ...

                      See that trump executed secret addendum to trust allowing him to secretly move money from businesses ...without informing public


                      TRANSPARENCY

                      Troop deployments now secret

                      TRANSPARENCY
                      That we know of ..... YET.

                      Did he know Rice was collecting intelligence on Trump and his associates?

                      Why did Obama expanding surveillance powers right before he left office?

                      Did he know that that intelligence was being leaked?

                      Lots of questions still to be answered.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        That we know of ..... YET.

                        Did he know Rice was collecting intelligence on Trump and his associates?

                        Why did Obama expanding surveillance powers right before he left office?

                        Did he know that that intelligence was being leaked?

                        Lots of questions still to be answered.
                        We KNOW Flynn broke law repeatedly. Did not register as foreign agent as required. Didn't report paydays from foreign govts as required. Didn't report contacts with individuals as required.

                        These are FACTS. Not in question.

                        Rice and others aware of this ya think? Doing their JOBS

                        So painfully obvious how these Ivan's muddy waters. Let's chase imagined / asserted issues while we fail to follow up the obvious

                        Apropos to that what's your hot take on Flynn then? What to do....

                        Tell us!

                        Tell us!

                        Tell us!

                        Don't muddy ....Flynn ....traitor or you OK with trump giving a foreign agent access to intelligence ?

                        Tell us! No gobbledygook ! Be CLEAR!

                        I'll go first .....


                        INVESTIGATE!

                        Easy call for a real American .....Ivan?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          "The system that works for elites"

                          Trump billionaire

                          Cabinet worth as much as large percentage of America

                          Trumpkinsnand his billionaires are the elites you Carp about moron.

                          How many from Goldman in his admin?
                          More from the Hedges article that answers your post. This time it's Matt Tiabbi. You do know who he is, right? I'm not so sure. You are so blind to what's going on in this country TeeHeeMan.

                          “You have to have the assent of the press, the donor class, and one of the two [major] political parties to get in. It’s an exclusive club. It’s like a membership system. They all have to agree and confer their blessing on the candidate. Trump somehow managed to get past all three of those obstacles. And he did it essentially by putting all of them on trial. He put the press on trial and villainized them with the public. I think it was a brilliant masterstroke that nobody saw coming. But it wouldn’t have been possible if their unpopularity hadn’t been building for years and years and years.”

                          “It’s a kind of Stockholm syndrome. The reporters, candidates, and candidates’ aides are all thrown together. They’re stuck in the same environment with each other day after day, month after month. After a while, they start to unconsciously adopt each other’s values. Then they start to live in the same neighborhoods. They go to the same parties. Then it becomes a year-after-year kind of thing. Then after that, they’re the same people. It’s a total perversion of what’s supposed to happen. We’re [the press] supposed to be on the outside, not identifying with these people. But now, it’s a club. Journalists enjoy the experience of being close to power.”

                          “When a candidate makes a mistake and steps in it—[2004 presidential hopeful] Howard Dean is the classic example, the scream—then they [TV news shows] replay it every hour, 100 times a day. The critical part is that Dean was already in violation leading up to that moment. He was not the right person because he was anti-war. He got his donations from the wrong people. He makes the mistake. The press pig-piles on the person just instinctively. All this negative attention. The candidate freaks out and apologizes. He disappears for a while. He tries to soldier on. The next thing you know, there’s a Page 16 story: Candidate exits the race. It’s a script. But it didn’t work with Trump.”

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            We KNOW Flynn broke law repeatedly. Did not register as foreign agent as required. Didn't report paydays from foreign govts as required. Didn't report contacts with individuals as required.

                            These are FACTS. Not in question.

                            Rice and others aware of this ya think? Doing their JOBS

                            So painfully obvious how these Ivan's muddy waters. Let's chase imagined / asserted issues while we fail to follow up the obvious

                            Apropos to that what's your hot take on Flynn then? What to do....

                            Tell us!

                            Tell us!

                            Tell us!

                            Don't muddy ....Flynn ....traitor or you OK with trump giving a foreign agent access to intelligence ?

                            Tell us! No gobbledygook ! Be CLEAR!

                            I'll go first .....


                            INVESTIGATE!

                            Easy call for a real American .....Ivan?
                            Facts??? You ignore the facts! Those involved with both the Clintons have done the same thing and yet that's OK with you.

                            There are people on the left who are at least willing to admit that.

                            The Chris Hedges article is just one of many good summaries.

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                              No way I would agree with Hedges's political solutions to this country's problems, but his analysis is spot on.

                              "At first the press, especially the television press, could not get enough of Trump. He received 23 times the coverage of Sen. Bernie Sanders, who spoke about things that do not make for great television—inequality and corporate corruption. Trump brought in the advertising dollars. 2016 was CNN’s most profitable year. Then, alarmed at Trump’s ascendancy, the press set out to destroy him. The press applied its Darth Vader Force choke. It did not work. They tried it again and again. The Force had deserted them.

                              The press, like the Democratic Party, is an appendage of the consumer society. These institutions are not about politics or news. They are about imparting an experience. They create political personalities, marketed as celebrities, to make us feel good about candidates. These manufactured emotions, the product of the dark arts of the public relations industry, determine how we vote. Issues and policies are irrelevant. It is marketing and entertainment.

                              Trump’s popularity increased the more the establishment condemned him. This would have sent a profound and disturbing message to anyone not as clueless as our liberal elites. They did not get it. They thought they could trot out Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Hollywood celebrities and get the rubes to fall for their routine one more time. They thought the country would again obey.

                              The liberal class, by embracing neoliberalism and refusing to challenge the imperial wars, empowered the economic and political structures that destroyed our democracy and gave rise to Trump. Multiculturalism, when it means, to use the words of Cornel West, nothing more than having a president who is a “black mascot for Wall Street,” betrays the disenfranchised and endows the ruling elites with a false progressivism, a false humanism and a false inclusiveness.

                              Hillary and Bill Clinton, Joe Biden and the current Democratic Party leadership designed and built the massive system of imprisonment, essentially ended welfare, expanded our wars and pushed through NAFTA. They destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of poor and working-class families and are responsible for the mounds of corpses in the Middle East. Yet these liberal elites speak as if they are champions of racial and economic justice. They appear in choreographed pseudo-events to demonstrate a faux compassion. Now they have been exposed as fakes."

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Facts??? You ignore the facts! Those involved with both the Clintons have done the same thing and yet that's OK with you.

                                There are people on the left who are at least willing to admit that.

                                The Chris Hedges article is just one of many good summaries.
                                Where specifically?

                                Specifics are in on Flynn....

                                Susan Rice News ‘Appears to Be a Story Largely Ginned Up, Partly as a Distraction’
                                Those old dogs just ain't gonna hunt no mo'

                                Tee hee

                                now why would the public believe trump all about DISTRACTION ?

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