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There are six New England teams with better RPI’s than BC. UConn is tops in the region in the 40’s. That will usually get you in.
But, UConn isn't long for the Big East, and conversely BC isn't long for the ACC, so this discussion could very well be flipped in 2-3 years.
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Most years, yes. Predictions are the at-larges will be very heavily concentrated amongst the P4's now. Traditionally here in New England only Big East and Ivy get an at-large, and even those will be threatened in the future. If UConn keeps winning and gets themselves into the low-30's, they'll have a shot.
But, UConn isn't long for the Big East, and conversely BC isn't long for the ACC, so this discussion could very well be flipped in 2-3 years.
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Really? And what factual information (not opinion) do you have that neither college is long for their conferences?
As for BC, they aren't offering enough on the BB or FB sides (which is all that matters, TBH) right now. The ACC is looking to restructure again and aren't getting enough visibility from those two sports across their footprint. The BC idea is more conjecture than UConn, but both have been mentioned nationally.
Women's soccer parents, and that includes myself, need to understand they are the anchor of a collegiate athletic program so they will go to where they are told. They don't have a vote. Being in the ACC is great for women's soccer, but it doesn't do much for them in the revenue-generating sports.
Hockey is a different animal alltogether. I'd like to see schools less beholden to conferences for all their sports, like is done for hockey (i.e. Hockey East is separated and includes schools from numerous conferences).
Since I'm on my soapbox, I'd be in favor of trashing the entire system and starting from the ground up. Make conferences adhere closer (not completely) to geographic lines, which will help to drive regional rivalries. I don't have a vote, though ;-)
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Nothing factual, but have read a lot about it. UConn wants out, that's pretty common knowledge. They've been exploring their options and as conferences, and conference bids for all sports, continue to go toward the consolidated conferences, there is less for others. The mens BB last year was a stark message to the Big East - 3 deserving teams were left out in the cold. That only drags the UConn brand down. If their football team can make improvements, they will be an attractive pull.
As for BC, they aren't offering enough on the BB or FB sides (which is all that matters, TBH) right now. The ACC is looking to restructure again and aren't getting enough visibility from those two sports across their footprint. The BC idea is more conjecture than UConn, but both have been mentioned nationally.
Women's soccer parents, and that includes myself, need to understand they are the anchor of a collegiate athletic program so they will go to where they are told. They don't have a vote. Being in the ACC is great for women's soccer, but it doesn't do much for them in the revenue-generating sports.
Hockey is a different animal alltogether. I'd like to see schools less beholden to conferences for all their sports, like is done for hockey (i.e. Hockey East is separated and includes schools from numerous conferences).
Since I'm on my soapbox, I'd be in favor of trashing the entire system and starting from the ground up. Make conferences adhere closer (not completely) to geographic lines, which will help to drive regional rivalries. I don't have a vote, though ;-)
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At least you acknowledge it’s not factual but rather conjecture which is an opinion. If you’re UCONN you could use the example of both Rutgers and Syracuse who flourished in the Big East and now both cannot compete in the revenue generating sports. Why would a P4 Conference like the Big Ten be interested in a one trick pony as UCONN? For what league would UConn be an attractive pull? The New England area really isn’t a big pull for college soccer. As far as BC highly doubtful they would be dropped or decide to leave on their own from a P4 conference to a mid Major. The ACC are thinking right now about FLA ST & Clemson as well as aligning with Notre Dame and keeping UNC & Duke happy. BC is not a concern especially from an academic perspective.
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Very few field players play 90 minutes in a college game except for the goalie and center backs. But if you want to use the most extreme amount to make your point that’s on you. If your daughter is playing a full match what does that say about the quality and depth of her team? The argument could be made that those 15 minutes against top competition is better than more playing time in a less competitive match. To each their own.
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The youth soccer mindset in a nutshell. The point of playing the game is primarily to play the game. In the early years playing those 15mins vs top competition is way more valuable than playing 90mins against bottom level competition, you learn new things and advance your skills much better that way. But if you realize that college is the end of the line (other than Sunday league) then there's no point to really savoring those 15mins you got playing against top competition; there's very little chance it makes you a better player on the field so why not play almost a full game every game and enjoy the sport? The only thing you lose out on is getting to tell people at the bar 10yrs from now about how you played against player xyz back in college for the 1000th time while they try not to roll their eyes.
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Nothing factual, but have read a lot about it. UConn wants out, that's pretty common knowledge. They've been exploring their options and as conferences, and conference bids for all sports, continue to go toward the consolidated conferences, there is less for others. The mens BB last year was a stark message to the Big East - 3 deserving teams were left out in the cold. That only drags the UConn brand down. If their football team can make improvements, they will be an attractive pull.
As for BC, they aren't offering enough on the BB or FB sides (which is all that matters, TBH) right now. The ACC is looking to restructure again and aren't getting enough visibility from those two sports across their footprint. The BC idea is more conjecture than UConn, but both have been mentioned nationally.
Women's soccer parents, and that includes myself, need to understand they are the anchor of a collegiate athletic program so they will go to where they are told. They don't have a vote. Being in the ACC is great for women's soccer, but it doesn't do much for them in the revenue-generating sports.
Hockey is a different animal alltogether. I'd like to see schools less beholden to conferences for all their sports, like is done for hockey (i.e. Hockey East is separated and includes schools from numerous conferences).
Since I'm on my soapbox, I'd be in favor of trashing the entire system and starting from the ground up. Make conferences adhere closer (not completely) to geographic lines, which will help to drive regional rivalries. I don't have a vote, though ;-)
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UConn has been linked to the Big12, but to your point, other than hoops they are not adding much. Maybe a deal like SMU signed to join the ACC would work but UCONN doesn’t have that type of cash. I don’t think the ACC will look anything like it does now in 2-3 years. If the football schools leave then BC will not be invited to that party. ACC will likely look like Wake, BC, Syaracuse, Georgia tech, NC State and other smaller and less desirable football programs. Even further down the road id be surprised if the biggest football schools leave the NCAA and create their own thing without NCAA oversight. None of this affects soccer fwiw.
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UConn has been linked to the Big12, but to your point, other than hoops they are not adding much. Maybe a deal like SMU signed to join the ACC would work but UCONN doesn’t have that type of cash. I don’t think the ACC will look anything like it does now in 2-3 years. If the football schools leave then BC will not be invited to that party. ACC will likely look like Wake, BC, Syaracuse, Georgia tech, NC State and other smaller and less desirable football programs. Even further down the road id be surprised if the biggest football schools leave the NCAA and create their own thing without NCAA oversight. None of this affects soccer fwiw.
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One trick pony….but what a pony. It’s about the $$$
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That’s right, BB is a pony as compared to FB that is a thoroughbred. Don’t compare the two a revenue generating sports. BB is about March Madness while football is about Labor Day thru the college championship. Not even close.
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UConn has been linked to the Big12, but to your point, other than hoops they are not adding much. Maybe a deal like SMU signed to join the ACC would work but UCONN doesn’t have that type of cash. I don’t think the ACC will look anything like it does now in 2-3 years. If the football schools leave then BC will not be invited to that party. ACC will likely look like Wake, BC, Syaracuse, Georgia tech, NC State and other smaller and less desirable football programs. Even further down the road id be surprised if the biggest football schools leave the NCAA and create their own thing without NCAA oversight. None of this affects soccer fwiw.
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