Will HS soccer happen?

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Agreed, and evidence of safe personal fitness will support return to team sports.

The concerns about HS sports all seem to be rooted in the OPTICS of it, and not the science.
The facts show that HS sports can be played safely, and without increased risk to the community at large. Despite pages of response there hasn't been one post that shared evidence suggesting HS sports are unsafe. Which brings me back to optics. Why are so many posters in favor of cancelling HS sports? What are you trying to signal?

I for one am not advocating for it, but am merely saying that after 2 decades of kids in a few school systems + private school + a family member who is a principal in a neighboring state I don't see it happening. Districts are afraid of their own shadows these days. A few snow flakes in the sky and they call off school. They're constantly fighting off lawsuits from parents, even from faculty or the union at times. Logic doesn't matter a lot of the time.

I hope I'm wrong or it will be a really crappy fall in my house.

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I for one am not advocating for it, but am merely saying that after 2 decades of kids in a few school systems + private school + a family member who is a principal in a neighboring state I don't see it happening. Districts are afraid of their own shadows these days. A few snow flakes in the sky and they call off school. They're constantly fighting off lawsuits from parents, even from faculty or the union at times. Logic doesn't matter a lot of the time.

I hope I'm wrong or it will be a really crappy fall in my house.

pandemics are crappy for sure.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2728693]I totally agree - between pressure from teachers to limit risks, plus lawsuit risks, schools will only operate for educational purposes. School is one thing, the rest will be skipped until we see how the fall plays out.[/QUOTE

Exactly. Schools don’t even know how they will approach getting kids back
into classrooms yet, let alone extracurricular activities that involve traveling to other districts. There is no way that any school could or would take on that liability yet. Organized school sports are far off, at this point. Whether we think it’s right or wrong, is not going to change anything. It’s just wishful thinking at this point.

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I totally agree - between pressure from teachers to limit risks, plus lawsuit risks, schools will only operate for educational purposes. School is one thing, the rest will be skipped until we see how the fall plays out.[/QUOTE

Exactly. Schools don’t even know how they will approach getting kids back
into classrooms yet, let alone extracurricular activities that involve traveling to other districts. There is no way that any school could or would take on that liability yet. Organized school sports are far off, at this point. Whether we think it’s right or wrong, is not going to change anything. It’s just wishful thinking at this point.

So, I guess this is the mindset I hope to change. If you think it's wrong, why accept it?

There is no evidence of risk, and no liability for schools. Parents sign waivers before kids can attend tryouts. There is always risk, we learn to live with it.

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So, I guess this is the mindset I hope to change. If you think it's wrong, why accept it?

There is no evidence of risk, and no liability for schools. Parents sign waivers before kids can attend tryouts. There is always risk, we learn to live with it.

Just said this on another thread - complaining on a soccer blog won't get you anywhere. Use your time.to shout at the powers that be if you're that motivated.
Most of us have figured out ways to deal with it, and will deal with whatever decisions are made in the future.

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Back to HS Soccer.
Whereas there is exceptionally strong evidence that...

1. COVID has proven to have little to no effect on HS aged students.
59 attributed to Covid alone out of 7,452 total deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#AgeAndSex

2. Flatten The Curve efforts have worked and we are ready
Hospitalization rates are flattening and overall, and 18-29 segment is 18 per 100K which is 99.99% confidence of not being hospitalized
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html
1,000 Bed Boston Hope peak use was 150 beds

3. No liability risk to school, town, state, league
Parents already sign waivers that release liability to all for everything. I just read ours on FamilyID, recommend you read yours.

4. Spread occurs indoors, not outdoors.
Spread is primarily found indoors and directly tied to air flow more than proximity
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the...hem-avoid-them
outdoor spread hasn't been identified
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...pread-indoors/
Exercise-based spread also seems very low
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...xt5AjGtkXYt020

And whereas there is a proven connection between mental and physical health for teens
https://health.usnews.com/health-car...-mental-health

And whereas the continued lockdown presents a real risk to parents
Domestic abuse is surging in the US and globally
https://www.google.com/search?ei=uFq...4dUDCAw&uact=5

Models for Covid project a spike in Suicides
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/12/85438...n-suicide-rate

We, the citizens of Massachusetts implore Governor Baker, the MA Department of Education and the MIAA to recommend a return to HS sports in the name of increased public health, and realization of quality education goals.

Would you sign it?

Good stuff. So you wrote it on TS.
Not much going to happen here. Who is the person (people) this should go to?

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Good stuff. So you wrote it on TS.
Not much going to happen here. Who is the person (people) this should go to?

Feels like the same poster is yelling about schools on another thread. I'm not sure why he thinks yelling here will get any results. Troll who just wants to stir things up?

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Feels like the same poster is yelling about schools on another thread. I'm not sure why he thinks yelling here will get any results. Troll who just wants to stir things up?

If a troll, the poster certainly has enough free time.

Statement 2 is kind of where the "miracle occurs" in the argument.

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If a troll, the poster certainly has enough free time.

Statement 2 is kind of where the "miracle occurs" in the argument.

Same with #3 about liability waivers. He must not have spent much time with district attorneys or school administrators

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This poster has limited capacity to deal with no youth sports in his or her at present. It does stink and it is challenging. Venting on TS seems to be the coping mechanism of the moment.

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Here’s another idea. You all leave. You stole this land and commuted genocide against the native people, and then built the country through slavery. All of you should leave.

Wrong. Europeans were here before the indians. It was the indians that first killed the europeans and then they came back 10,000 years later to get revenge.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...h-America.html

But of course you wouldn't learn the truth in your agenda driven learning institutions.

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Wrong. Europeans were here before the indians. It was the indians that first killed the europeans and then they came back 10,000 years later to get revenge.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...h-America.html

But of course you wouldn't learn the truth in your agenda driven learning institutions.

You’re arguing with the same people who think a middle schooler with emotional issues should lead global policy change. Do you really expect them to do independent research?

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Wrong. Europeans were here before the indians. It was the indians that first killed the europeans and then they came back 10,000 years later to get revenge.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...h-America.html

But of course you wouldn't learn the truth in your agenda driven learning institutions.

Wow, there is just no shortage of old fringe theories here, is there?

"I found it on the interwebs, it contradicts what most experts believe so it must be true."

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You’re arguing with the same people who think a middle schooler with emotional issues should lead global policy change. Do you really expect them to do independent research?

Digging up discredited theories on the internet doesn't really qualify as "independent research."

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This poster has limited capacity to deal with no youth sports in his or her at present. It does stink and it is challenging. Venting on TS seems to be the coping mechanism of the moment.

I suppose you're right. We are all dealing. Let the venting continue!