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Cmon at U17 you know all about this. College coaches can’t trust what they see when you play against DPL/NAL teams. If the kid shines against GA opponents they will trust that success more. But therein lies the problem with too much expansion. Will they continue to trust what they see?
And expansion makes no difference. coaches will watch the games vs teams at the top of the table, not the bottom of the table.
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Originally posted by Guest View PostAztec is the third best team in the state on YSR behind Blue & NEFC. You'd expect Blue & NEFC to have the best classes, but why is Aztec so low?
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1. Blue (14) commits
2. NEFC (12) commits
3. Aztec (2) commits
4. White (5) commits
5. Scorpions (7) commits
6. SSS (4) commits
Aztec is ranked ahead of GA/ECNL teams in White, Scorpions and SSS, but have less commits than all of them. Why is this if not league?
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Originally posted by Guest View PostDumb comment. They have played dozens of ECNL and GA teams at Jeff Cup, PDA, SUSA, etc. with many coaches attending.
And expansion makes no difference. coaches will watch the games vs teams at the top of the table, not the bottom of the table.
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Yes when in doubt always trust the opinion of a parent on TS vs a college coach with their job on the line
Makes total sense
Have you never seen the bottom ECNL teams? They’re bad. In some regions they’re a dime a dozen. If you think the top players on the Surfs and Aztecs of the world aren’t more capable of playing division 1 soccer than most of the players on those squads, you’re kidding yourself. Any D1 college ranked 125+ would be better off recruiting the top players from those leagues vs the ECNL and GA leftovers but they’re either ignorant or scared.
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ECNL parent here. I’m secure enough to admit there are some equally good players in other leagues. For college coaches to sign them, they have to a) be willing to show up at their events and b) be skilled enough to recognize talent.
Have you never seen the bottom ECNL teams? They’re bad. In some regions they’re a dime a dozen. If you think the top players on the Surfs and Aztecs of the world aren’t more capable of playing division 1 soccer than most of the players on those squads, you’re kidding yourself. Any D1 college ranked 125+ would be better off recruiting the top players from those leagues vs the ECNL and GA leftovers but they’re either ignorant or scared.
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If you don’t play top competition, no matter how good your team is, you will struggle to get eyeballs on you.
Most of the Stars, Select & NEFC 07 home games this year had local D1 coaches in attendance. It wasn’t uncommon to see a handful at a league game in Lancaster, Union point or Mendon.
I very much doubt Aztec got any views like that. And that sucks, but it’s reality of playing in a league that is below ECNLR or DPL.
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ECNL parent here. I’m secure enough to admit there are some equally good players in other leagues. For college coaches to sign them, they have to a) be willing to show up at their events and b) be skilled enough to recognize talent.
Have you never seen the bottom ECNL teams? They’re bad. In some regions they’re a dime a dozen. If you think the top players on the Surfs and Aztecs of the world aren’t more capable of playing division 1 soccer than most of the players on those squads, you’re kidding yourself. Any D1 college ranked 125+ would be better off recruiting the top players from those leagues vs the ECNL and GA leftovers but they’re either ignorant or scared.
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ECNL parent here. I’m secure enough to admit there are some equally good players in other leagues. For college coaches to sign them, they have to a) be willing to show up at their events and b) be skilled enough to recognize talent.
Have you never seen the bottom ECNL teams? They’re bad. In some regions they’re a dime a dozen. If you think the top players on the Surfs and Aztecs of the world aren’t more capable of playing division 1 soccer than most of the players on those squads, you’re kidding yourself. Any D1 college ranked 125+ would be better off recruiting the top players from those leagues vs the ECNL and GA leftovers but they’re either ignorant or scared.
But, to flip it onto the college coaches is off-base. Their task is to find the best player and to do it within a budget. If someone has made a decision because they were sold that going a different path will have the same results, that's not the college's fault. They need to vet dozens, hundreds of players every year and need to fill every positional gap they can. Ideally, they'd do that in a single event and be done with it. This idea that colleges just drive around to clubs all day looking for the next best thing just isn't reality. No, not great for the game, but that's the pool we are swimming in. If someone wants to run under the sprinkler instead and expect the same attention, I feel bad for them. Add in, New England colleges recruit from all over. Some schools will have 1/4 to a half of their roster locally. The rest are all over. If you are just playing on the North Shore of Massachusetts and even if you are the best player around, you have to work to prove it. Absolutely, that path is available and I encourage anyone to take it.
But, if you want to blame anyone, blame those clubs who sold you that you don't need to be going to leagues and events where those very colleges you want to play at are actually there. I blame the parents who were told this, numerous times, but felt otherwise. I get it, we all get told different things from different people and have to make a decision. After, you have to live with your decision, good or bad. Not blame others because they didn't put in an extra effort on their behalf. Life doesn't work that way. Parents are encouraged to look at rosters, see where schools draw from, and go from there. Some do, most don't, but, again, that's life.
If I want to become a professional skier, I am going to where there are other skiers of similar ability and to locations that traditionally have personnel who can help foster that. I don't sit on the Cape and wonder why.
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It’s called a majority of coaches are very lazy.
Do you have any idea where a college draws their players from to make up their roster?
Do you have any idea of their recruiting budget?
So, as to not be called lazy, your solution is to:
* Go to every potential club in the Region across every league (call it a dozen)
* Look at age groups of each of those clubs ranging from 15-18
* With no baseline to consider, just imagine how those players will be able to compete against various levels of competition
* Know and understand which players are potential fits based on what they are looking for given a certain year (i.e. there could be a 17-year old DPL player, say a CB, that is far and beyond other player out there...but the college is flush with young defenders and won't be recruiting that position in that age group)
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* Go to a single event with a roster of every team showing each player, position, game schedule, of every player they are intent to view
* Need a defender? You've got a dozen or more to look at and don't even have to move your car from the lot.
Sorry, that's not lazy. That's smart.
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