The Girls 2007 Thread

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I think Stars 07s will ultimately be fine, but not even qualifying for playoffs is not going to help with summer committing. I would expect a slower development and not get too crazy. It is a bad look for a team and that does impact individual players and like it or not, coaches will not show up to the NA Cup in San Diego the same way they would to the actual playoffs.

It's all at the same location. No one is going to know if a coach is slumming it at the National Cup.

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It's all at the same location. No one is going to know if a coach is slumming it at the National Cup.

Other than that TGS tracks the coaches attending and emails that out.

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I think Stars 07s will ultimately be fine, but not even qualifying for playoffs is not going to help with summer committing. I would expect a slower development and not get too crazy. It is a bad look for a team and that does impact individual players and like it or not, coaches will not show up to the NA Cup in San Diego the same way they would to the actual playoffs.

Didn’t seem to hurt the 06s who didn’t make champions league last year. Plenty of 2024 commits on that team already. How do any players from Scorpions or White ever get committed if coaches only go to CL games? Stop your nonsense

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The kids will all get recruited. Stars Blue is a very good team. But it will slow things down a little bit for some of those who assumed they'd have offers by July.

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I think Stars 07s will ultimately be fine, but not even qualifying for playoffs is not going to help with summer committing. I would expect a slower development and not get too crazy. It is a bad look for a team and that does impact individual players and like it or not, coaches will not show up to the NA Cup in San Diego the same way they would to the actual playoffs.

How many times do you need to be told coaches don't recruit teams but players? That they don't care about scores but what a player can do for them?

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How many times do you need to be told coaches don't recruit teams but players? That they don't care about scores but what a player can do for them?

Yes but they also have finite time and resources and theyre going to concentrate on the best teams. They dont recruit teams but dont if they can consolidate the number of games they go to, they will and that definitely has an influence on their process.

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Yes but they also have finite time and resources and theyre going to concentrate on the best teams. They dont recruit teams but dont if they can consolidate the number of games they go to, they will and that definitely has an influence on their process.

175 schools found the time and resources last weekend in NJ.

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This is when you really begin to see the TS divide between people who know the recruiting process and those who are just talking out of their a** based on what they imagine must be the case ("there's limited time, they must just go see the good teams") as if word-of-mouth, ID clinics, club contacts, USNYT callups, etc. aren't at work all the time. The ECNL clubs are given reports of which colleges viewed their games-- they get around. These people are snipers, they're not letting a competitor get a jump on a kid because they play in Louisville and not Dallas. Looking up conference records is such a uLittle thing to do. "Oh well, World Class is only third" yeah and their forward's scoring twice in the national selection game and going to UNC.

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^^^All true. But there’s no upside to playing Richmond United in the National Cup. There’s a whole lot of upside to playing Solar FC in the champions league.

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Yes but they also have finite time and resources and theyre going to concentrate on the best teams. They dont recruit teams but dont if they can consolidate the number of games they go to, they will and that definitely has an influence on their process.

And guess what? Not every coach looking is from a top program. In fact statistically most are not from a "top" program. There's a massive difference between what a #6 program is looking for vs a team ranked #225. Team #225 really doesn't care if your team made the final 8. If you are a top starter on a top team, you're not a player that a college team ranked #225 can get - they might love to get you but know they probably can't. That is why you won't see nearly as many coaches at playoffs. Many programs aren't chasing those kids, and they already saw a few dozen more at bigger events. Programs hit as many events as they can and that give them the most bang for their buck. They bring as much staff as they can to cover as many players as they can.

Finally, the state has few top nationally ranked players that are pursuing top nationally ranked college teams. Virtually all will get recruited to teams ranked 25 - 335 plus D3s. But according to you they don't stand a chance because their team didn't make it?

Regardless, look at the rosters of top college teams. They're filled with players who played on teams that weren't "top" teams.

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And guess what? Not every coach looking is from a top program. In fact statistically most are not from a "top" program. There's a massive difference between what a #6 program is looking for vs a team ranked #225. Team #225 really doesn't care if your team made the final 8. If you are a top starter on a top team, you're not a player that a college team ranked #225 can get - they might love to get you but know they probably can't. That is why you won't see nearly as many coaches at playoffs. Many programs aren't chasing those kids, and they already saw a few dozen more at bigger events. Programs hit as many events as they can and that give them the most bang for their buck. They bring as much staff as they can to cover as many players as they can.

Finally, the state has few top nationally ranked players that are pursuing top nationally ranked college teams. Virtually all will get recruited to teams ranked 25 - 335 plus D3s. But according to you they don't stand a chance because their team didn't make it?

Regardless, look at the rosters of top college teams. They're filled with players who played on teams that weren't "top" teams.

Not the op and I agree with 99% of your text.. I do, however, think that most “nationally ranked” players are on good to great teams. Sure, there are a few across the country that are the exception but most great players find great teams to push themselves. UNC, Stanford, UCLA, etc..only need to show up to playoffs because that’s where most of their talent will come from. U of Albany, UVM, CCSU, etc.. won’t generally bother and focus on a bigger net.

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Not the op and I agree with 99% of your text.. I do, however, think that most “nationally ranked” players are on good to great teams. Sure, there are a few across the country that are the exception but most great players find great teams to push themselves. UNC, Stanford, UCLA, etc..only need to show up to playoffs because that’s where most of their talent will come from. U of Albany, UVM, CCSU, etc.. won’t generally bother and focus on a bigger net.

Different poster but like they said look at rosters. Plenty of players were not on top teams

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Different poster but like they said look at rosters. Plenty of players were not on top teams

There's a MA player at UCLA that played at SSS. Top club? No. There's a CT kid at Stanford that I think was @ NYSC. Of course UCLA is an outlier in that the vast majority of their roster is nearly all CA players and CA owns the market for better clubs and loads of great players. But otherwise yes there are many players on top college teams that weren't on top youth teams. Geography is an issue for some, as are whatever their local club options. MA sends less than a handful of players to top 25 teams. If they're at Stars and their Stars team doesn't make CL, the coach doesn't care. The coach either wants them or not.

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Not the op and I agree with 99% of your text.. I do, however, think that most “nationally ranked” players are on good to great teams. Sure, there are a few across the country that are the exception but most great players find great teams to push themselves. UNC, Stanford, UCLA, etc..only need to show up to playoffs because that’s where most of their talent will come from. U of Albany, UVM, CCSU, etc.. won’t generally bother and focus on a bigger net.

It’s actually entertaining to read some of these posts that are just complete BS. Top programs don’t “only show up to playoffs”. How do I know? Every team tracks the schools that show up to showcase games. Your examples (UNC, Stanford, UCLA) have been to see my kid’s team play already this year (playoffs haven’t happened yet). All 3 have been to more than 1 game.

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It’s actually entertaining to read some of these posts that are just complete BS. Top programs don’t “only show up to playoffs”. How do I know? Every team tracks the schools that show up to showcase games. Your examples (UNC, Stanford, UCLA) have been to see my kid’s team play already this year (playoffs haven’t happened yet). All 3 have been to more than 1 game.

So…. Is your kid on a top or competitive team or just a team with an ECNL or GA badge. My point is the top teams are where most of the talent congregates…which is probably why they are a top team. I’m not saying it’s impossible for a lower level or less competitive team to get players to top p5 teams, but is the exception. I did look at the rosters of UNC, Stanford, etc.. almost (my point) all the players were on playoff teams or had some national camp exposure. Again, not impossible but less likely.

Glad you were entertained