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Fake news. Not an ounce of truth.

BS... it absolutely happens with Stars teams. Mandatory according to the coach. No wiggle room and compliance is fully expected.

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The Stars teams are known for this. Typically the amount is 100-150 a team. Be careful that the team manager or admin person isn't spending it on coaches bar tab. Most parents find out to late. A good indication is when you see a player with far less talent start playing more or your dime. There is one on each team.

Have a daughter on Stars. No Kitty.

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Have a daughter on Stars. No Kitty.

No Rover teams would have a need for the kitty fund.

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The problem with including everything in the fee is you end up with the lower level teams that don't travel that much subsidizing the travel costs of the teams that do. As others have noted, when a team travels the cost of the team kitty generally ranges around $300 per family. Those that do travel usually assume that cost is their burden and don't look to spread it out to other families.

Not true in our club, each team pays fees associated with the tournaments they play in, so tuition is adjusted.

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Not true in our club, each team pays fees associated with the tournaments they play in, so tuition is adjusted.

So there is still a kitty then, it's just budgeted differently. The simply fact is there are costs associated with team travel and club expects their staff to pay their own expenses so they are covered by the team(s) somehow. The only real difference is some clubs spread those costs over teams that don't actually incur them while others give them right back to the team that incurred them. If you aren't being asked to pay a separate amount that should tell you that the club is burying their travel costs in their fee and that you have no control over what tabs the coaches are running up.

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So there is still a kitty then, it's just budgeted differently. The simply fact is there are costs associated with team travel and club expects their staff to pay their own expenses so they are covered by the team(s) somehow. The only real difference is some clubs spread those costs over teams that don't actually incur them while others give them right back to the team that incurred them. If you aren't being asked to pay a separate amount that should tell you that the club is burying their travel costs in their fee and that you have no control over what tabs the coaches are running up.

It is simple. we add the tournament fee, coach hotel, coach per diem, coach travel cost and divide by number of players on the team going to the tournament. If there are multiple teams traveling, the coaches cost is reduced. So no 'kitty'

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So there is still a kitty then, it's just budgeted differently. The simply fact is there are costs associated with team travel and club expects their staff to pay their own expenses so they are covered by the team(s) somehow. The only real difference is some clubs spread those costs over teams that don't actually incur them while others give them right back to the team that incurred them. If you aren't being asked to pay a separate amount that should tell you that the club is burying their travel costs in their fee and that you have no control over what tabs the coaches are running up.

Of course. A team pays 10% +/- more than B team. That covers them for more practice time, and additional tournaments. I don't see this as being unusual.

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It is simple. we add the tournament fee, coach hotel, coach per diem, coach travel cost and divide by number of players on the team going to the tournament. If there are multiple teams traveling, the coaches cost is reduced. So no 'kitty'

In my experience at GPS, there has been no team kitty (other than throw a few bucks in at the end of the year for a coach's gift - voluntary). All coaches expenses (including traveling to tournaments) are included in annual tuition (which includes several tournaments) and / or the additional tournament fee (additional lump sum for higher level teams that travel to additional high profile tournaments). Have read many threads about how expensive GPS is (and don't argue), but it's interesting to see that the other less expensive clubs have additional fees / team kitty(s) that previously had not been referenced.

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It is simple. we add the tournament fee, coach hotel, coach per diem, coach travel cost and divide by number of players on the team going to the tournament. If there are multiple teams traveling, the coaches cost is reduced. So no 'kitty'

No matter what you want to call it, the team is paying for the coach's travel expenses. The ONLY issue in your calculation is whether or not your team gets billed the budgeted expenses or the actual ones. Do you think the club is giving everyone a refund if the team elects not to go to a tournament? What happens when there are unforeseen expenses (ie change fees), do you think the coach or club eats those?

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No matter what you want to call it, the team is paying for the coach's travel expenses. The ONLY issue in your calculation is whether or not your team gets billed the budgeted expenses or the actual ones. Do you think the club is giving everyone a refund if the team elects not to go to a tournament? What happens when there are unforeseen expenses (ie change fees), do you think the coach or club eats those?

So if the hotel runs $150 and the club budgeted $175, we don't worry about the $25. If that is your concern you have issues. The club is upfront about ghe number of events it has baked in to the fee's. if a team wants to add an event, the team is made aware of the cost. It is not as big an issue as you make it seem.

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So if the hotel runs $150 and the club budgeted $175, we don't worry about the $25. If that is your concern you have issues. The club is upfront about ghe number of events it has baked in to the fee's. if a team wants to add an event, the team is made aware of the cost. It is not as big an issue as you make it seem.

That's how ours (two clubs) work also. When an extra tourney is added that wasn't in the contract (and they take a survey first to make sure everyone wants to go) then we only pay for the entrance fee, not travel. The club eats that. On a team of 18+ there certainly is enough fluff in the budget for 2 nights at a Holiday Inn Express and a few meals. No team slush funds. Parents pitch in for a group gift when someone organizes it.

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I would allot approx $300-$500 for team kitty for ECNL/NPL level teams and less for NEP top teams (and I mean the top level of NEP-that first bracket typically called PREMIERSHIP-not Premiership 1 or Premiership Red or Premiership North) Once you are at the bottom on NEP maybe $100-$200. NEC/MAPLE teams will have no real need for a team kitty since extra tounraments usually aren't desired by the family.

Not all teams have a slush fund, but personally I find them easier-I put the money upfront and am not being asked for money all the time. The NPL/ECNL teams my children have been associated with have used the slush fund for team dinners when traveling, adding indoor leagues, adding tournaments(one day or weekends), end of season gift for coaches.

When on NEP teams and maple teams I didnt have to pay a slush fund.

When paying the annual fee all the "expected" things are included-trainings fall, winter and spring along with league games and 2 or 3 tournament fees. Everything we want that is extra is paid for separately-overnight camps, extra tournaments and indoor leagues-all of which are optional.

THis is the experience of my family-I cant speak for others-but I think thats what OP was looking for.

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That's how ours (two clubs) work also. When an extra tourney is added that wasn't in the contract (and they take a survey first to make sure everyone wants to go) then we only pay for the entrance fee, not travel. The club eats that. On a team of 18+ there certainly is enough fluff in the budget for 2 nights at a Holiday Inn Express and a few meals. No team slush funds. Parents pitch in for a group gift when someone organizes it.

Youth soccer is a business. Clubs that "eat" expense overages are the example of poor management and typically the ones in the middle of the pack trying to convince everyone how relevant they are. Only naïve newbies buy that hype.

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Never thought I'd see the day, even on TS, where there would be a thread called "Team kitty."

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