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    Just curious what families for an annual team kitty for pre-HS ages (U12-14)? I realize that it covers different things for different teams, but generally speaking. If anyone is willing to share, please indicate level of team: NPL, NEP or Maple (NEL).

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Just curious what families for an annual team kitty for pre-HS ages (U12-14)? I realize that it covers different things for different teams, but generally speaking. If anyone is willing to share, please indicate level of team: NPL, NEP or Maple (NEL).
    Its a way for a club to advertise less for the annual club fee, but get more revenue later on from parents. Ditto for fundraisers later on in the season. The kitty serves to fund some "extra" tournaments, training, supplies, parties, coach expenses, and anything else they want to exclude from the annual fee. These items should be in the budget and accounted for every year for every team. And for the clubs that do this, the player contracts are usually very vague on the amounts each player is responsible for and what specific expenses will be paid with it. And for good reason, they want to be able to ask for as much money as they can and spend it on whatever they want. I've been part of a few clubs with my 3 kids over the years. Most player contracts will outline, in detail, what to expect. I don't mind that, because I know what I'm signing up for up front. Its the clubs that are vague in the player contracts, or make no mention of it all, and take advantage of you after you pay your initial fee. I left after one year with a club who did this. I've been part of 2 clubs that didn't have a kitty or fundraisers. You pay the annual fee and that is is. No coming back to parents for more $$$.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Just curious what families for an annual team kitty for pre-HS ages (U12-14)? I realize that it covers different things for different teams, but generally speaking. If anyone is willing to share, please indicate level of team: NPL, NEP or Maple (NEL).
      Never heard of this. Glad my kid's club outlines all expenses in the contract up front. Who knows how much extra you could be paying otherwise?

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        #4
        OP here. Thanks so far. I left out a word. Meant to write what families *PAY* for an annual team kitty. Looking for amounts, please.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          OP here. Thanks so far. I left out a word. Meant to write what families *PAY* for an annual team kitty. Looking for amounts, please.
          The Stars teams are known for this. Typically the amount is 100-150 a team. Be careful that the team manager or admin person isn't spending it on coaches bar tab. Most parents find out to late. A good indication is when you see a player with far less talent start playing more or your dime. There is one on each team.

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            #6
            Never heard of this. 2 daughters, first with NEFC and 2nd with GPS at both NEP, and NPL level. Both clubs outline fees in advance. In some cases they identify tournaments fees as variable, but the actuals get detailed. There are appeals for coaches gifts at end of year, but this is usually $20 or whatever a family chooses

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered
              The Stars teams are known for this. Typically the amount is 100-150 a team. Be careful that the team manager or admin person isn't spending it on coaches bar tab. Most parents find out to late. A good indication is when you see a player with far less talent start playing more or your dime. There is one on each team.
              Fake news. Not an ounce of truth.

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                #8
                Depending on the level team you are on the amount is 100-150. The fee is used to cover coaches travel expenses, team dinners, extra tournaments and maybe a party at the end of the year with the left over. It isn't a bad thing as it saves you from being hit up multiple times over the course of the year. I am not sure how you could account for travel and team dinners in the annual fee. The manager should have a spreadsheet covering all expenses and he/she should send it out at the end of the year for all to see.

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                  #9
                  We pay about $1,000 per year but my son is a typical bubble player so it helps him get more playing time.

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                    #10
                    Never thought I'd see the day, even on TS, where there would be a thread called "Team kitty."

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                      #11
                      gold

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Never thought I'd see the day, even on TS, where there would be a thread called "Team kitty."
                      I don't understand your point. Seems benign. What am I missing?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don't understand your point. Seems benign. What am I missing?
                        Clearly the poster is a perv. Theres a lot of them on here, being an anonymous forum and all

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                          #13
                          For the teams that don't incorporate all tournaments into the fee, it can range from $100-$300/player per year. Your team manager should be able to provide you an accounting of exactly what the team is spending the team kitty on. Expect it to be higher for older teams that travel to more tournaments (NPL and ECNL, for example). If your team plays more locally, and you don't travel to tournaments, it should be a LOT less. It's not a slush fund--it should be specifically for costs involved with the entire team, such as tournament fees, coaches travel expenses, team apps, etc.)

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            For the teams that don't incorporate all tournaments into the fee, it can range from $100-$300/player per year. Your team manager should be able to provide you an accounting of exactly what the team is spending the team kitty on. Expect it to be higher for older teams that travel to more tournaments (NPL and ECNL, for example). If your team plays more locally, and you don't travel to tournaments, it should be a LOT less. It's not a slush fund--it should be specifically for costs involved with the entire team, such as tournament fees, coaches travel expenses, team apps, etc.)
                            Never even heard of clubs doing a "slush fund". Our fees have always been spelled out in black and white with the contracts. Anything extra (like adding tournaments that weren't in the contract) are also spelled out when they occur. I've never even been charged extra for coach ravel when we've added a tourney, just the entrance fee which the manager literally does the math for the parents(fee x divided by # players = fee per player). I'm assuming the clubs have enough fluff in their bank accounts to cover extra travel expenses when they do occur.

                            Now that said one of our clubs has done some fund raising in fits and starts for scholarships, and the other has a donation button on the website (also for scholarships). I don't know how successful those are but in theory they shouldn't be going to club operational expenses.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              Never even heard of clubs doing a "slush fund". Our fees have always been spelled out in black and white with the contracts. Anything extra (like adding tournaments that weren't in the contract) are also spelled out when they occur. I've never even been charged extra for coach ravel when we've added a tourney, just the entrance fee which the manager literally does the math for the parents(fee x divided by # players = fee per player). I'm assuming the clubs have enough fluff in their bank accounts to cover extra travel expenses when they do occur.

                              Now that said one of our clubs has done some fund raising in fits and starts for scholarships, and the other has a donation button on the website (also for scholarships). I don't know how successful those are but in theory they shouldn't be going to club operational expenses.
                              We haven't used it for things like the poster. We use it for team dinners when traveling. Usually, it's $100 per season and there are precise refunds at the end. Tournament fees, coach travel, are included in the base fee.

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