2015 Boys Soccer Verbal Commits

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It is a con game the kids play with the DAP club. They always intended to go to the best academic school they could get into but they know the club doesn't want to hear it. So they keep it down low. When the kid gets into Bowdoin and declines UMass the club goes ballistic but the family has just won the game. If you were involved at this level you would understand this dynamic.

This has to be the single most unintelligent, and bs post that I have ever read. The club goes ballistic if a player chooses a D3 over a D1? What fantasy land are you living in? How about it goes this way...YOU had it in your head that your kid was always a D1 prospect, but truth is he was not, and ended up exactly where he should be. A very good D3 school. That's the real dynamic that you probably refused to comprehend in that brain of yours.

'Single most unintelligent, and BS post'?? I think not. There are plenty of posts that are truly ridiculous and this is not one of them. While I don't agree that the club 'goes ballistic', I do agree that the 'family has won the game' that they played, especially if the example of the D3 school is Bowdoin or a Bowdoin like school. I would agree, however, that most kids who enter into the DAP realm are thinking D1, but soon might realize that playing soccer (actually on the field) may not happen at a D1 school. At the same time, I also believe that some are able to play soccer at a D1 school, but it is not the school of their liking. There are many reasons why a kid might not be playing a sport after their first year, so it is important to attend a school for reasons in addition to the sport. If your options are a weak academic D1 school vs a stronger academic D3 school, then the choice is clear....assuming that you are not turning professional soccer player.
The decision is based on a balance of variables, but ultimately the decision has to include where the choice will take you 4 years later.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It is a con game the kids play with the DAP club. They always intended to go to the best academic school they could get into but they know the club doesn't want to hear it. So they keep it down low. When the kid gets into Bowdoin and declines UMass the club goes ballistic but the family has just won the game. If you were involved at this level you would understand this dynamic.



'Single most unintelligent, and BS post'?? I think not. There are plenty of posts that are truly ridiculous and this is not one of them. While I don't agree that the club 'goes ballistic', I do agree that the 'family has won the game' that they played, especially if the example of the D3 school is Bowdoin or a Bowdoin like school. I would agree, however, that most kids who enter into the DAP realm are thinking D1, but soon might realize that playing soccer (actually on the field) may not happen at a D1 school. At the same time, I also believe that some are able to play soccer at a D1 school, but it is not the school of their liking. There are many reasons why a kid might not be playing a sport after their first year, so it is important to attend a school for reasons in addition to the sport. If your options are a weak academic D1 school vs a stronger academic D3 school, then the choice is clear....assuming that you are not turning professional soccer player.
The decision is based on a balance of variables, but ultimately the decision has to include where the choice will take you 4 years later.

Umm, I don't think so. There is no game to be won by the family. The players usually end up exactly where they belong. There's no secret game going on to deceive anyone.

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Umm, I don't think so. There is no game to be won by the family. The players usually end up exactly where they belong. There's no secret game going on to deceive anyone.

Also, who gives a rats ass about the personal decisions that each family/player makes in the first place? That is between the players, their coaches, and the colleges reaching out to them. Why is it that this useless forum becomes a feeding ground for a bunch of parents to ridicule the decisions of others? As if it is newsworthy that one should choose a school for the education first. That is what a College coach will tell you when they meet you. Why? Because they know that the second your little baby is not getting the playing time that you or he thinks they deserve he had better be happy with the school.

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Also, who gives a rats ass about the personal decisions that each family/player makes in the first place? That is between the players, their coaches, and the colleges reaching out to them. Why is it that this useless forum becomes a feeding ground for a bunch of parents to ridicule the decisions of others? As if it is newsworthy that one should choose a school for the education first. That is what a College coach will tell you when they meet you. Why? Because they know that the second your little baby is not getting the playing time that you or he thinks they deserve he had better be happy with the school.

You protest too much.

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Serious question to the OP, are you happy the way this thread turned out? Are you proud that you enabled the boo birds here on TS the opportunity to vent their pathetic spleens about the inadequacies of each family's personal decisions? Most important though, did you actually accomplish your stated goal of being able to figure out which clubs were doing the best job producing college bound players or might you recognize that all your efforts actually did was let the clubs posture themselves at the expense of the individual players?

BTDT, pipe down. The OP NEVER said that was his goal, and he has provided these threads for at least the past 5-6 years with hardly any controversy at all. You want there to be some controversy here. There isn't any and no one but you has been venting spleens and obsessed with how wrong all the rest of us parents get things.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It is a con game the kids play with the DAP club. They always intended to go to the best academic school they could get into but they know the club doesn't want to hear it. So they keep it down low. When the kid gets into Bowdoin and declines UMass the club goes ballistic but the family has just won the game. If you were involved at this level you would understand this dynamic.



'Single most unintelligent, and BS post'?? I think not. There are plenty of posts that are truly ridiculous and this is not one of them. While I don't agree that the club 'goes ballistic', I do agree that the 'family has won the game' that they played, especially if the example of the D3 school is Bowdoin or a Bowdoin like school. I would agree, however, that most kids who enter into the DAP realm are thinking D1, but soon might realize that playing soccer (actually on the field) may not happen at a D1 school. At the same time, I also believe that some are able to play soccer at a D1 school, but it is not the school of their liking. There are many reasons why a kid might not be playing a sport after their first year, so it is important to attend a school for reasons in addition to the sport. If your options are a weak academic D1 school vs a stronger academic D3 school, then the choice is clear....assuming that you are not turning professional soccer player.
The decision is based on a balance of variables, but ultimately the decision has to include where the choice will take you 4 years later.

Doesn't the Revs pick up the price tag for their DAP program? I am surprised that there isn't some sort of legal document where the families have to agree things like this before the Revs put out the money developing the kid. When they are paying the freight they shouldn't get played.Would have thought the Krafts had better lawyers than that.

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D1

Trevor Davock-NEFC-Rivers-Boston College
Corin Kwasnik-NMH-Boston University
Charlie Booth-FC Stars-Concord Carlisle-Bryant
Neeraj Mahey-Bolts-Acton-Colgate
Ryan Bellavance-FC Blazers-Rivers-Colgate
Steve Deleo-Bolts/FC Blazers-Acton-Colgate
Aram Ouligian-FC Blazers-Needham-Colgate
Dylan Mott-Revs-Philips Andover Acad-Columbia
Ben Nicholas-Beachside-NMH-UConn
Jimmy Coyle-Berkshire-Elon
Justin Donawa-Berkshire-Dartmouth
Kyle Ryan-Bolts-Westford-George Mason
Amadu Kunateh-Revs-Lawrence Academy-Harvard
Clayton Hafer-Bolts-Bedford-Holy Cross
Garrett Leahy-FC Stars-Concord Carlisle-Holy Cross
Matt Morana-Revs-Shrewsbury-Lehigh
Kevin Boino-Western-Wahconah-UMass*
Suri Chavali-Revs-Brookline-UMass*
Adam Norman-NEFC-Wellesley-UNH
Bryant Nardizzi - Revs - Framingham - NC State
Denis Martinez- Bolts-Chelsea-Northeastern
Adam Gibbs -Bolts-Westboro-Northeastern
Mohamed Kenawy-Bolts-Boston-Northeastern
Alex Reissmann-Cushing-Northeastern
Emmett Gordon-Valeo FC-Belmont Hill-Northwestern
Zachary Herivaux-Revs-Brookline/Beaver Country Day-Providence
Steven Kilday-Crusaders-Worcester Academy-Providence
Austin Aviza-Revs-Medway-Syracuse
Miles Robinson-Bolts-Arlington-Syracuse
Jack Harrison-Manhattan PSG-Berkshire-Wake Forest
Lucas Wartella-Black Watch-Monument Mtn HS-WVU

D2

Zachary Rowell-Aztecs-St John's Prep-Assumption
Tyler Castor - Worcester Academy - Assumption

D3

Chris Lewis - MPS- Milton - Amherst
Connor Horan-?-Norwell-Bates
Jake Stenquist-FC Stars-Rivers-Bowdoin
CJ Masterson- Bruno United-Barrington/NMH-Bowdoin
Jeff Lin-NEFC-Rivers-Colby
Cam Clouse - GPS-Worcester Academy-Colby
Tim Hilbrunner-FC Stars-Groton Dunstable-Conn College
Ben Manoogian-FC Stars-Peabody-Conn College
Greg Evans - FC Blazers - Hamilton
Eric Gooden-Western-Amherst/NMH-Wesleyan
Komar Martinez-Paiz-Manhattan PSG-Berkshire-Wesleyan

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Cosentino to Tufts

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The posts about the DAP kid going to Bowdoin are eye-opening. Your kid doesn't play DAP so you look at their college commitment lists/ultimate college placements to question the delusional parents chasing a dream which is not to be (when the kids end up going D3). Turns out, some of these delusional parents knew exactly what they were doing- helping to best position the kid to get into a top-tier D3 by using soccer. Given how hard it is for non-supported athletes to get admitted to some of these schools, these delusional parents may actually be crazy like a fox. Yeah, some of these may have fallen to D3s when their D1 dream didn't come true, but some may have known exactly what they were doing.

What about the money you need? Well, if you're a financial aid kid, then the elite D3s will give you as much aid as you need, and it's all grants. If you're not a financial aid kid, then you have a problem (so you'd need to drop a tier to a school with "merit" aid).

But is the DAP trade worth it? Obviously depends on the kid. You don't have to play DAP to go D3, and the price (for most) is giving up HS soccer. Yeah, HS soccer pretty much stinks, but it's fun. If your grades are just OK (on a relative basis for that school), then maybe you need to be #1-2 on the coach's list to ensure you can get admitted, so maybe DAPs a good bet. You can look at the rosters and tell me that most of the kids at these elite D3s aren't DAP, but that doesn't mean the coaches weren't targeting DAP kids if they had any chance (and that those kids would be #1-2 on the list if they could get them).

If D3 is below their level for soccer, then they will have lots of other great choices.

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It is a con game the kids play with the DAP club. They always intended to go to the best academic school they could get into but they know the club doesn't want to hear it. So they keep it down low. When the kid gets into Bowdoin and declines UMass the club goes ballistic but the family has just won the game. If you were involved at this level you would understand this dynamic.

This has to be the single most unintelligent, and bs post that I have ever read. The club goes ballistic if a player chooses a D3 over a D1? What fantasy land are you living in? How about it goes this way...YOU had it in your head that your kid was always a D1 prospect, but truth is he was not, and ended up exactly where he should be. A very good D3 school. That's the real dynamic that you probably refused to comprehend in that brain of yours.

'Single most unintelligent, and BS post'?? I think not. There are plenty of posts that are truly ridiculous and this is not one of them. While I don't agree that the club 'goes ballistic', I do agree that the 'family has won the game' that they played, especially if the example of the D3 school is Bowdoin or a Bowdoin like school. I would agree, however, that most kids who enter into the DAP realm are thinking D1, but soon might realize that playing soccer (actually on the field) may not happen at a D1 school. At the same time, I also believe that some are able to play soccer at a D1 school, but it is not the school of their liking. There are many reasons why a kid might not be playing a sport after their first year, so it is important to attend a school for reasons in addition to the sport. If your options are a weak academic D1 school vs a stronger academic D3 school, then the choice is clear....assuming that you are not turning professional soccer player.
The decision is based on a balance of variables, but ultimately the decision has to include where the choice will take you 4 years later.

The posts about the DAP kid going to Bowdoin are eye-opening. Your kid doesn't play DAP so you look at their college commitment lists/ultimate college placements to question the delusional parents chasing a dream which is not to be (when the kids end up going D3). Turns out, some of these delusional parents knew exactly what they were doing- helping to best position the kid to get into a top-tier D3 by using soccer. Given how hard it is for non-supported athletes to get admitted to some of these schools, these delusional parents may actually be crazy like a fox. Yeah, some of these may have fallen to D3s when their D1 dream didn't come true, but some may have known exactly what they were doing.

What about the money you need? Well, if you're a financial aid kid, then the elite D3s will give you as much aid as you need, and it's all grants. If you're not a financial aid kid, then you have a problem (so you'd need to drop a tier to a school with "merit" aid).

But is the DAP trade worth it? Obviously depends on the kid. You don't have to play DAP to go D3, and the price (for most) is giving up HS soccer. Yeah, HS soccer pretty much stinks, but it's fun. If your grades are just OK (on a relative basis for that school), then maybe you need to be #1-2 on the coach's list to ensure you can get admitted, so maybe DAPs a good bet. You can look at the rosters and tell me that most of the kids at these elite D3s aren't DAP, but that doesn't mean the coaches weren't targeting DAP kids if they had any chance (and that those kids would be #1-2 on the list if they could get them).

If D3 is below their level for soccer, then they will have lots of other great choices.

The sad part about these two posts is this is soccer hedonism and face saving at its worst. This whack job thinks they are the cat's meow but they are just the cannon fodder that are seriously dummbing down DAP. All they did was spend and push the envelope of youth sports so they could con your kid's way into some elite college by manufacturing what are essentially artificial bullet points on their resume. There fallacy here is that all of these DAP players that took a D3 option were something special on a soccer field and chose to pursue academics because they (and there parents) are so much smarter than everyone else that they actually pulled the wool over a professional soccer club's head. The fact is what we are talking about are basically just above average soccer players and students. Very good for sure, but nowhere near exceptional at all. The truth of the matter is if any of these players WERE actually truly exceptional they would have had much better options to choose from than what they obviously did. If they really were all that and a bag of peanuts like their braggart parents like to portray them as they would be going to an Ivy or at the very least one of the "lesser" D1 colleges like a Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Northwestern. Even if they weren't getting any money you can bet that just the ability for the kid to get on the field at that level and allow their parents to brag about it would have steered them in that direction. All of these players settled for the default option and no one won any sort of game. The fact that some see it as a game tells you how frigged up the whole thing is.

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the sad part about these two posts is this is soccer hedonism and face saving at its worst. This whack job thinks they are the cat's meow but they are just the cannon fodder that are seriously dummbing down dap. All they did was spend and push the envelope of youth sports so they could con your kid's way into some elite college by manufacturing what are essentially artificial bullet points on their resume. There fallacy here is that all of these dap players that took a d3 option were something special on a soccer field and chose to pursue academics because they (and there parents) are so much smarter than everyone else that they actually pulled the wool over a professional soccer club's head. The fact is what we are talking about are basically just above average soccer players and students. Very good for sure, but nowhere near exceptional at all. The truth of the matter is if any of these players were actually truly exceptional they would have had much better options to choose from than what they obviously did. If they really were all that and a bag of peanuts like their braggart parents like to portray them as they would be going to an ivy or at the very least one of the "lesser" d1 colleges like a georgetown, vanderbilt, northwestern. Even if they weren't getting any money you can bet that just the ability for the kid to get on the field at that level and allow their parents to brag about it would have steered them in that direction. All of these players settled for the default option and no one won any sort of game. The fact that some see it as a game tells you how frigged up the whole thing is.

stfu btdt.

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HAHAHAHAHA. Sucks to be exposed as the fool who tries to sell chicken sh!t as chicken salad.

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HAHAHAHAHA. Sucks to be exposed as the fool who tries to sell chicken sh!t as chicken salad.

Doesn't suck for me. My kid didn't play DAP. What sucks is being exposed or being so obsessed and hateful about all these issues that have nothing to do with him. And then he'll deny that he's posting. What a deeply and truly pathetic soul.

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The sad part about these two posts is this is soccer hedonism and face saving at its worst. This whack job thinks they are the cat's meow but they are just the cannon fodder that are seriously dummbing down DAP. All they did was spend and push the envelope of youth sports so they could con your kid's way into some elite college by manufacturing what are essentially artificial bullet points on their resume. There fallacy here is that all of these DAP players that took a D3 option were something special on a soccer field and chose to pursue academics because they (and there parents) are so much smarter than everyone else that they actually pulled the wool over a professional soccer club's head. The fact is what we are talking about are basically just above average soccer players and students. Very good for sure, but nowhere near exceptional at all. The truth of the matter is if any of these players WERE actually truly exceptional they would have had much better options to choose from than what they obviously did. If they really were all that and a bag of peanuts like their braggart parents like to portray them as they would be going to an Ivy or at the very least one of the "lesser" D1 colleges like a Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Northwestern. Even if they weren't getting any money you can bet that just the ability for the kid to get on the field at that level and allow their parents to brag about it would have steered them in that direction. All of these players settled for the default option and no one won any sort of game. The fact that some see it as a game tells you how frigged up the whole thing is.

Vanderbilt does not have a mens soccer team, only a womens..and girls don't play DAP. So, though you may believe your argument is sound you lessen your credibility by not having your facts straight.

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Now we have the very definition of an obsessive-compulsive. Someone who even though he knows everyone knows who he is in real life still can't manage to stop himself. Just think for a moment how this idiot is spending his time. Parent of a NT player spending all day disparaging and critiquing the choices of other parents. Simply unable to stop and just keeps dragging his own name through the mud.