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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Think of this way. Your son could have tried out for a mediocre 'premier' club with a couple dozen other boys and they would already be begging you to come back. Valeo had over 70 boys tryout so it will take a bit longer. Quality attracts quantity and that's good. Relax.
    What takes a bit longer? There was no call back tryout, 2+2 is still 4 and about 60 out of 70 that you counted were current players.

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      Valeo emails out!!

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        What takes a bit longer? There was no call back tryout, 2+2 is still 4 and about 60 out of 70 that you counted were current players.
        More than 20 new faces. Good that they didn't rush to judgement precisely because it's not simple math.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          What takes a bit longer? There was no call back tryout, 2+2 is still 4 and about 60 out of 70 that you counted were current players.
          I think you have to understand how the game works.

          You have your must have. If you have a roster of 15, then you immediately contact them and offer them a spot with a time limit. Those must haves are usually must haves on another club so they are waiting to hear from them. If the must-have's 1st choice is a different club then Valeo i.e. Bolt Pre-Academy or NEFC Central, they might keep Valeo hanging.

          In the meantime, Level 2 players are typically kept in the dark. Out of the must-haves lets say 90% take it, then that leaves 10% more phone calls/emails to Level 2. Level 2 might be a must have in a smaller club or Team B in a larger club so they stall Valeo (or whatever club we are talking about)

          A couple of other quirks, if the club has enough players that they like and field space, staffing, etc. They may try start up another team. They might call their level 3.

          Additionally -- you got the guys that commit and then back out. This creates space beginning at Level 2 or they might bump a Team B player up and call another Level 2 or 3 to play team B

          Another issue is requirements. Sometimes a must have qualifies for the "travel team (NPL/Pre-Academy) and their family can not meet those requirements. They move to Team B and that opens up a space for a Level 2 guy to make the A Team.

          I know this is not that clear but basically the bottom-line is that this is a song-and-dance with teams and players and other teams. The marginal/wait-listed players are usually kept in the dark until the original dance comes to a close.

          You will understand this more as you move up in age brackets

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I think you have to understand how the game works.

            You have your must have. If you have a roster of 15, then you immediately contact them and offer them a spot with a time limit. Those must haves are usually must haves on another club so they are waiting to hear from them. If the must-have's 1st choice is a different club then Valeo i.e. Bolt Pre-Academy or NEFC Central, they might keep Valeo hanging.

            In the meantime, Level 2 players are typically kept in the dark. Out of the must-haves lets say 90% take it, then that leaves 10% more phone calls/emails to Level 2. Level 2 might be a must have in a smaller club or Team B in a larger club so they stall Valeo (or whatever club we are talking about)

            A couple of other quirks, if the club has enough players that they like and field space, staffing, etc. They may try start up another team. They might call their level 3.

            Additionally -- you got the guys that commit and then back out. This creates space beginning at Level 2 or they might bump a Team B player up and call another Level 2 or 3 to play team B

            Another issue is requirements. Sometimes a must have qualifies for the "travel team (NPL/Pre-Academy) and their family can not meet those requirements. They move to Team B and that opens up a space for a Level 2 guy to make the A Team.

            I know this is not that clear but basically the bottom-line is that this is a song-and-dance with teams and players and other teams. The marginal/wait-listed players are usually kept in the dark until the original dance comes to a close.

            You will understand this more as you move up in age brackets
            all this "complex thinking" you are talking about is to be done after the offers are sent. Then A: parents think and respond, B: coaches make final shuffle. I agree, this takes time.
            Analyzing the result of tryouts(which may not be a a final placement!)is a few minutes work. I am not trying to fight anyone here. IMO, last year in-club communication was not the best part of Valeo.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              all this "complex thinking" you are talking about is to be done after the offers are sent. Then A: parents think and respond, B: coaches make final shuffle. I agree, this takes time.
              Analyzing the result of tryouts(which may not be a a final placement!)is a few minutes work. I am not trying to fight anyone here. IMO, last year in-club communication was not the best part of Valeo.
              72 boys vying for some 50 positions on three teams takes only a few minutes? So glad you are nowhere near the decision making process.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                all this "complex thinking" you are talking about is to be done after the offers are sent. Then A: parents think and respond, B: coaches make final shuffle. I agree, this takes time.
                Analyzing the result of tryouts(which may not be a a final placement!)is a few minutes work. I am not trying to fight anyone here. IMO, last year in-club communication was not the best part of Valeo.
                Valeo communicates from their space station, where the coaches were hanging out during tryouts watching. What a joke Valeo is. NU is a fool.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Valeo communicates from their space station, where the coaches were hanging out during tryouts watching. What a joke Valeo is. NU is a fool.
                  I had the impression the coaches at tryouts were trying to actually watch and judge the players for at least 10 min. After that who knows what they were looking at.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I had the impression the coaches at tryouts were trying to actually watch and judge the players for at least 10 min. After that who knows what they were looking at.
                    I had the impression that EW assessed kids for about 30 seconds.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I had the impression that EW assessed kids for about 30 seconds.
                      EW has his favorites or his manager's favorites. If your kid is not one of them he'll be sitting on the bench. Train there for a year on U12 then get your kid the heck away from him into an academy track.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I had the impression that EW assessed kids for about 30 seconds.
                        This just so ridiculous. There were two fields with seven teams, scrimmaging nonstop for two days with at least six coaches watching. Not sue which complaint is more zany, that they didn't pay attention or that didn't rush to judgement and took the time to compare the notes of all the coaches.

                        Denial parents are the worst, it was all a big mistake that your child wasn't picked. You are very wrong. Deal with it.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          This just so ridiculous. There were two fields with seven teams, scrimmaging nonstop for two days with at least six coaches watching. Not sue which complaint is more zany, that they didn't pay attention or that didn't rush to judgement and took the time to compare the notes of all the coaches.

                          Denial parents are the worst, it was all a big mistake that your child wasn't picked. You are very wrong. Deal with it.
                          Valeo is the new Miami Heat! Cry babies!

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I had the impression the coaches at tryouts were trying to actually watch and judge the players for at least 10 min. After that who knows what they were looking at.
                            This about sums it up. They checked a few boxes for about 10 minutes and then clearly became bored. We were done after the first day. Good luck!

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Valeo communicates from their space station, where the coaches were hanging out during tryouts watching. What a joke Valeo is. NU is a fool.
                              Valeo is not smart enough to have a space station. Simple math seems beyond their scope. There are way too many teams and players in that tight space. We almost got killed by a car backing up from its tight space. They have to be breaking some fire codes.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Valeo is not smart enough to have a space station. Simple math seems beyond their scope. There are way too many teams and players in that tight space. We almost got killed by a car backing up from its tight space. They have to be breaking some fire codes.
                                So call a fire inspector. Crowded yes but will be much less so now. Good luck with GPS.

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