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    High School Soccer - Private vs. Public

    Where do high school boys soccer teams that participate in NEPSAC Class A rank vs D1 high school teams? Where would the winner of NEPSAC Class A,B, and C rank vs the winner of D1, D2, and D3.

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Where do high school boys soccer teams that participate in NEPSAC Class A rank vs D1 high school teams? Where would the winner of NEPSAC Class A,B, and C rank vs the winner of D1, D2, and D3.
    The private school teams would destroy the public school teams. Just as a point of reference, the South Kent team from two years ago had 6 D1 commits. They had 16 international players and 9 players over 18 years old. That team would be similar or a little stronger than the Revs 18's. That is an extreme example since it is the absolute highest level private school team with international men doing a post graduate year before going to play D1 college soccer, so let's look at Millbrook and Beaver Country Day in the Class C final. Millbrook has two Ghana national team players. It's hard to know how old they are, but they are a sophomore and Junior. They are at a completely different level from any 15 or 16 year old Anerican kids in this state. Beaver has 17 club players on its team (MPS, Revs, Valeo, Hammer, Blazzers, etc) and didn't have a senior in the starting 11 last year. Rivers, top Class B team last fall, also has a roster that is basically all high level club players.

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      #3
      All valid points. Not even close. Not the same atmosphere as a rivalry hs game on a Thursday night but wayyyy better soccer.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The private school teams would destroy the public school teams. Just as a point of reference, the South Kent team from two years ago had 6 D1 commits. They had 16 international players and 9 players over 18 years old. That team would be similar or a little stronger than the Revs 18's. That is an extreme example since it is the absolute highest level private school team with international men doing a post graduate year before going to play D1 college soccer, so let's look at Millbrook and Beaver Country Day in the Class C final. Millbrook has two Ghana national team players. It's hard to know how old they are, but they are a sophomore and Junior. They are at a completely different level from any 15 or 16 year old Anerican kids in this state. Beaver has 17 club players on its team (MPS, Revs, Valeo, Hammer, Blazzers, etc) and didn't have a senior in the starting 11 last year. Rivers, top Class B team last fall, also has a roster that is basically all high level club players.
        This is a ridiculous discussion. It's completely unfair to compare. These elite private school programs recruit and give financial aid. Obviously if given $40,000 per year in free education people are going to go. This is like comparing D1 college sports to D3. D1 teams are going to be much better because of the money involved.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          This is a ridiculous discussion. It's completely unfair to compare. These elite private school programs recruit and give financial aid. Obviously if given $40,000 per year in free education people are going to go. This is like comparing D1 college sports to D3. D1 teams are going to be much better because of the money involved.
          This is something I've been curious about for a while, because I've had parents imply that they've received "athletic" money from a private school. My daughter goes to one of the better academic private schools in the area, and I know several of the coaches and teachers personally. I know for a fact that they only give need-based aid. Not only that, but the coaches have told me that they have no pull what-so-ever with the admissions dept. The student needs to meet the academic standards to be considered. The sport only helps because it proves well-roundedness.

          I've heard that all of the other top schools in the area are the same way, but who really knows.

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            #6
            Originally posted by WCIPL_Messi View Post
            This is something I've been curious about for a while, because I've had parents imply that they've received "athletic" money from a private school. My daughter goes to one of the better academic private schools in the area, and I know several of the coaches and teachers personally. I know for a fact that they only give need-based aid. Not only that, but the coaches have told me that they have no pull what-so-ever with the admissions dept. The student needs to meet the academic standards to be considered. The sport only helps because it proves well-roundedness.

            I've heard that all of the other top schools in the area are the same way, but who really knows.
            It is need based. So the top athletes that need aid go to private school.

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              #7
              Not the case in LAX. Dux HS is absolutely dominate.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It is need based. So the top athletes that need aid go to private school.
                You don't have to be destitute to get aid. The best middle class athletes get aid too and go to private school. I want to remain anonymous, because this is private, but my family income is $94,000. Think that's middle class in Boston, and our kid gets 90% aid to a good school. It probably also depends on your assets (not just income), and we don't have much in the way if assets. That said, I don't think of my family as "poor".

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The private school teams would destroy the public school teams. Just as a point of reference, the South Kent team from two years ago had 6 D1 commits. They had 16 international players and 9 players over 18 years old. That team would be similar or a little stronger than the Revs 18's. That is an extreme example since it is the absolute highest level private school team with international men doing a post graduate year before going to play D1 college soccer, so let's look at Millbrook and Beaver Country Day in the Class C final. Millbrook has two Ghana national team players. It's hard to know how old they are, but they are a sophomore and Junior. They are at a completely different level from any 15 or 16 year old Anerican kids in this state. Beaver has 17 club players on its team (MPS, Revs, Valeo, Hammer, Blazzers, etc) and didn't have a senior in the starting 11 last year. Rivers, top Class B team last fall, also has a roster that is basically all high level club players.
                  The D1 public school champions tend to be full of high-level club players as well. Having seen some of the leading Class B and C privates noted above, they are not superior to last year's public-school champ (Needham), nor traditional powers like Weymouth and Ludlow. But the publics can't match 6 D1 commits and 9 college-age players (no other privates could match that, either, presumably).

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pathfinder View Post
                    Not the case in LAX. Dux HS is absolutely dominate.
                    Duxbury is very good at Lax. No idea how they compare to privates. In hoops the top private school programs have NBA draft picks. St Marks from 2 years ago had recruits from as far away as Alaska. Northfield Mt Hermon this year had 6 players over 6'10". The Boston Celtics don't have 6 guys over 6'10".

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pathfinder View Post
                      Not the case in LAX. Dux HS is absolutely dominate.
                      Duxbury lost to Needham 6-4 this season and lost to Garden City 10-1

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The D1 public school champions tend to be full of high-level club players as well. Having seen some of the leading Class B and C privates noted above, they are not superior to last year's public-school champ (Needham), nor traditional powers like Weymouth and Ludlow. But the publics can't match 6 D1 commits and 9 college-age players (no other privates could match that, either, presumably).
                        Last year's Needham team was excellent. MS, BM, WC, are very good players and that team would compete with the privates mentioned above with the exception of South Kent two years ago and Berkshire last fall. That said, that Needham team comes along once in a while in that town. The top private school programs are good more consistently since they can recruit and attract talent. In other words, Brooks has a strong soccer team every single year. Public school coaches have to coach whoever they get. It's a crapshoot each year.

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                          #13
                          Have any of you seen the Berkshire squad this year? A highly respected assistant called the team, the best high school team he had ever seen.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Duxbury lost to Needham 6-4 this season and lost to Garden City 10-1
                            NHS is a public school and probably ranked #2 in LAX. As for Dux, 1st in-state lose since 2010. I would stand by my dominate statement. Most of their boys go onto D1.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by WCIPL_Messi View Post
                              This is something I've been curious about for a while, because I've had parents imply that they've received "athletic" money from a private school. My daughter goes to one of the better academic private schools in the area, and I know several of the coaches and teachers personally. I know for a fact that they only give need-based aid. Not only that, but the coaches have told me that they have no pull what-so-ever with the admissions dept. The student needs to meet the academic standards to be considered. The sport only helps because it proves well-roundedness.

                              I've heard that all of the other top schools in the area are the same way, but who really knows.
                              You have been told wrong. Private schools like the ones your are describing absolutely give money for sports with out a doubt. There are few to give but they do give them and you would probably be pissed off if you knew how much on a $50,000 a year private high school education they give. There are top athletes going to some of these schools for 10,000.00.

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