ECNL wants to switch back to school year from birth year

[Guest]

I’m not sure your conclusion is correct but rather picking and choosing the facts you want to be true. End of the day it’s not changing so move along

Do you have some inside knowledge to indicate that the ECNL podcast was just trolling its listeners and isn't seriously considering a change? Please share if so. Are are you just choosing what you want to be true?

[Guest]

Having a full fall and spring of club is the differentiator. 30+games and 4 additional months of trainings at club. Makes a difference. rather than use this as ammo against BY, Id use it to ditch HS soccer altogether.

I'm not sure I'm following this. Being from one of these winter season states, I can tell you, we do not get an 4 additional months of training at clubs. Our club season takes a break for the school season (everyone, not just kids playing school soccer though the club may have some occasional practices) and summer, so there are 2 separate ECNL seasons, fall and spring. During those seasons, we play each team in our league twice total during the entire club season (once home and once away). So, my guess is we play basically the same number of games as your ECNL clubs and have just as much time off.

[Guest]

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Oh yes it is. Stayed tuned.

sure…ill wait for that along with relegation. More mass fairy tales

[Guest]

Maybe you guys should have been smart like me and made sure your kids were born In January to March.

[Guest]

School year makes the most sense if we are talking about kids competing for collage scholarships or wanting to play with their friends from school. Players should be evaluated amongst their grade level not with kids in different grad years. If parents hold their kids back which some will do most will not who really cares. You’re talking about probably less than 1% of kids. Most schools will not allow holdbacks anyways. Unless it is a justifiable reason so the kid probably needed it anyways.

[Guest]

I'm not sure I'm following this. Being from one of these winter season states, I can tell you, we do not get an 4 additional months of training at clubs. Our club season takes a break for the school season (everyone, not just kids playing school soccer though the club may have some occasional practices) and summer, so there are 2 separate ECNL seasons, fall and spring. During those seasons, we play each team in our league twice total during the entire club season (once home and once away). So, my guess is we play basically the same number of games as your ECNL clubs and have just as much time off.

In New England we do not have a fall season. So you get spring and fall, we only get fall. We usually play one game in December after the High School season ends and then play the remainder from March to May. In total, we will play 16 league games this coming year because we have a new team but last year we played 14.

[Guest]

Do you have some inside knowledge to indicate that the ECNL podcast was just trolling its listeners and isn't seriously considering a change? Please share if so. Are are you just choosing what you want to be true?

Likewise do you have any inside knowledge to indicate that the ECNL meant anything different when it explicitly says ‘nothing definite’? Please share if so. Are YOU just choosing what you want to be true?

[Guest]

In New England we do not have a fall season. So you get spring and fall, we only get fall. We usually play one game in December after the High School season ends and then play the remainder from March to May. In total, we will play 16 league games this coming year because we have a new team but last year we played 14.

^so Aug thru Nov is the additional 4 months.

[Guest]

School year makes the most sense if we are talking about kids competing for collage scholarships or wanting to play with their friends from school. Players should be evaluated amongst their grade level not with kids in different grad years. If parents hold their kids back which some will do most will not who really cares. You’re talking about probably less than 1% of kids. Most schools will not allow holdbacks anyways. Unless it is a justifiable reason so the kid probably needed it anyways.

take a look at basketball and football.
Your conclusions couldn’t be more incorrect.

[Guest]

take a look at basketball and football.
Your conclusions couldn’t be more incorrect.

Girls football? If you are here for boys soccer you've already lost the plot. Girls don't want to be held back.

[Guest]

In New England we do not have a fall season. So you get spring and SPRING , we only get fall. We usually play one game in December after the High School season ends and then play the remainder from March to May. In total, we will play 16 league games this coming year because we have a new team but last year we played 14.

Corrected to say NE only gets spring season rather than Fall

[Guest]

I'll assume you got these correct because I am not going to check on my own, but it is interesting that, not only is there not a single January birthday, but not a single birthday in the first quarter of the year.

This covers GYmfor most of these players, only a few were still in club or hadn’t started when the change happened.

[Guest]

P4 coaches will be recruiting from the transfer portal, looking at the top mid majors who have proven themselves in college and are looking to cash in. Then ecnl.

Mid major coaches will be recruiting from the transfer portal, looking at the former P4 players who couldn’t quite make it at that level. Then ecnl.

Ivy coaches will continue to recruit only the very rich and very poor. Because they have nothing to offer except need aid.

Low d1 coaches won't have the money or scholarships to entice top players. They may even drop to D2. Players will be far less interested in pursuing those options. Their relevance will fade.

No coaches care about birth year versus grade year. Only nutcase parents who think a few months of age separation are the reason their kid isn’t competitive.

[Guest]

ECNL will want to make things work for boys and girls.
SY will probably see some hold backs but you can say now the difference between a January and December kid is the same as a hold back. So already an issue which would be the case with any month if they decided to change to Aug/July.

[Guest]

Also if a kid was held back for some academic reason in like kindergarten are they no longer eligible to play comp soccer when they get older? That doesn’t make sense either.