Transitioning from high level club soccer to college D1 soccer

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NYU and U Chicago don't really fall into the category of "liberal bastion of educational elitists". Amherst and Williams, yes. NYU and Chicago, no. In general, the UAA schools are all excellent...they don't have the name recognition of places like Duke, but people only really know Duke because they have prestigious basketball and football programs that have nothing to do with educational excellence. If you compare Duke to Wash U in terms of things like endowment, research dollars, etc, Wash U is every bit the equal of Duke...but they are lesser known because they don't have teams in March Madness or Bowl games.

NYU is ‘very liberal’ as per student surveys.

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NYU is ‘very liberal’ as per student surveys.

NYU is a huge school, and yes, while you would expect a university in NYC to lean liberal, NYU has a top business school known for its world class finance program as well as a top medical school and strong engineering school, nursing school, dentistry and the Courant Institute of Applied Mathematics, all of which tend to be ideology-neutral or even right-of-center. Yes, it does also have liberal-leaning schools like the Tisch school (performing arts), Public Service, etc...but a university that large with such a wide range of schools is usually very difficult to pin down one way or the other. NYU is like the Cornell of the UAA.

If you look at the rest of the UAA, schools like Emory, Carnegie Mellon, U Rochester, Wash U, U Chicago, etc are all very much ideology-neutral as they tend to have strength in STEM and business. I'll agree with you that Ivy (with a couple of exceptions) and NESCAC (with a couple of exceptions) are poster-children of "liberal bastion of educational elitists"...but there are definitely excellent choices for strong academic D3 institutions that are not hot-beds of liberal indoctrination.

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A big transition from club to college D1 is parents have to learn to disappear. Coaches want to deal with your kid, not you.

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Or you could go D3 actually enjoy your college experience and probably get a better education. Just sayin….

There are actually much fewer D3 schools that offer "better education" than D1 schools. Outside of UAA and NESCAC, most D3 conferences only have 1-2 schools that you could consider "strong academic" ie MIT, Johns Hopkins, Swarthmore, Franklin & Marshall, Vassar, Pomona, RPI, etc. Once outside of the top 30-academic or so D3 schools, you start seeing schools like Bridgewater State, U-Mass Boston, Husson U, New England College, etc...most of which don't have anywhere near the same level of resources/endowments/etc as even the mediocre state D1 schools like UMass-Amherst, U-Conn, UVM, UNH...or the private schools like BU, BC, Holy Cross, Quinnipiac, etc. Anyone saying they chose Bridgewater State in order to "prioritize academics" is kidding themselves.

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I'm just not really convinced that the education is better at say Bowdoin vs a good state school like UVM. And on the social side you'll find less down to earth people at Bowdoin and you'll end up with a lock-jaw and look-down-your nose complex that will take years of therapy to sort out. Plus those NESCAC schools are really expensive.

Sitting at Bowdoin graduation today. Beautiful ceremony and if you can access this experience, take it. Based on superficial observations of the collective group tho, these studs are thrilled they chose D3. Ride the pine at a competitive program, or ride campus in dad’s Jeep as your throne? Reality will hit soon enough, D3 was the right choice for this group

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Sitting at Bowdoin graduation today. Beautiful ceremony and if you can access this experience, take it. Based on superficial observations of the collective group tho, these studs are thrilled they chose D3. Ride the pine at a competitive program, or ride campus in dad’s Jeep as your throne? Reality will hit soon enough, D3 was the right choice for this group

My D is at another NESCAC school, and while Amherst and Williams seem to get all the praise, I think Bowdoin's WSOC teams are the most balanced and well-coached teams in the league.

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Ride the pine at a competitive program, or ride campus in dad;s Jeep as your throne?

Yep the world needs more daddy Jeep driving entitled little ****ze. This has to be a troll.

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Ride the pine at a competitive program, or ride campus in dad;s Jeep as your throne?

Yep the world needs more daddy Jeep driving entitled little ****ze. This has to be a troll.

A troll? I think that was just the point

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Sitting at Bowdoin graduation today. Beautiful ceremony and if you can access this experience, take it. Based on superficial observations of the collective group tho, these studs are thrilled they chose D3. Ride the pine at a competitive program, or ride campus in dad’s Jeep as your throne? Reality will hit soon enough, D3 was the right choice for this group

All good whatever division, league or college you’re graduating from. It’s what works best for you and your family. Certain kids like the competitiveness and competition at a top program over playing at a less demanding program. To each their own. What matters is how they feel at their graduation and what they got out of the last four years. Bowdoin is a fantastic college on a small pond with a lot of small fish while my daughter preferred the ocean with the big fish.

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What ACC colleges are you referring to in comparison to NYU & UChicago?

Louisville, Syracuse and NC State. 100% I would advise my child if they had those options to choose NYU over those schools. UNC and BC as well. UNC and BC are high quality schools and Syracuse has a great communications department. Also, if my kid doesn't want a city campus then never mind.

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a big transition from club to college d1 is parents have to learn to disappear. Coaches want to deal with your kid, not you.

say it loud so everyone can hear!

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Are a lot of players taking their fifth year of eligibility for Covid and does that mean there are less roster slots? Are these players also doing grad school?

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Are a lot of players taking their fifth year of eligibility for Covid and does that mean there are less roster slots? Are these players also doing grad school?

From what I have seen, same number of roster spots which means less incoming spots or incoming non-Covid transfers. Some are doing grad school, some get a certificate or some funky thing for the fall season.

This is over after this year.

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Are a lot of players taking their fifth year of eligibility for Covid and does that mean there are less roster slots? Are these players also doing grad school?

The vast majority of 5th years are in graduate programs getting masters. While players have a 5th year of eligibility it wasn’t automatic that the coach would invite you back for the 5th year. Those players on athletic scholarships are not automatically extended and they are on the team at the coach’s discretion. Many 5th year players from top programs are in the transfer portal.