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    #16
    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    Wondering how much faster the game is played. Have seen a few Ivy League and BC games but was not hugely impressed. Girls were a bit more jacked than their high school counterparts, and maybe made a few less mistakes.
    Speed, not purely faster overall, but the first touch has to be a little truer. Physicality is more. Mentally it's harder, there is a lot of activity and depending on how your kid handles having a lot on their plate, that will be the adjustment. Some do just fine, some don't...like everything else in the world.

    Coaches also have little patience and tolerance for mistakes. Incomings need to be better, not equal, or minutes will be scarce. For many, that's their first time dealing with that, too.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      Ivy is D1.
      Just sayin
      The Ivies are D1 light. They manage to successfully balance academics, athletics and a social life. Just sayin I know of what I speak (or type).

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        #18
        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        The Ivies are D1 light. They manage to successfully balance academics, athletics and a social life. Just sayin I know of what I speak (or type).
        4 Ivies in the RPI Top 25….

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          #19
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          Oh god, here we go again...

          "She coulda' gone D1" Lady is back
          If her D only offered a little bit more athletically and academically she woulda gone D1. Patriot League has colleges on par academically with most of NESCAC and Liberty League. Reality is that D3 was the better choice among the options available to that player. We all know that if Ivy, Duke, Stanford, UNC, UVA. et al, were an option, that parent would he flying the D1 flag like in June

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            #20
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            The Ivies are D1 light. They manage to successfully balance academics, athletics and a social life. Just sayin I know of what I speak (or type).
            100% agree. i also know of what i type. The RPI claims are a little inflated. Tourney results more telling and 2nd round isn’t that impressive. D1 Lite they are, but it’s still D1 and that chafes the High Academics D3 By Choice crowd

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              #21
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              If her D only offered a little bit more athletically and academically she woulda gone D1. Patriot League has colleges on par academically with most of NESCAC and Liberty League. Reality is that D3 was the better choice among the options available to that player. We all know that if Ivy, Duke, Stanford, UNC, UVA. et al, were an option, that parent would he flying the D1 flag like in June
              I’m not the poster you are referring to but of course anyone who gets an offer from Princeton or Duke is going D1 but going to Baylor over Amherst is ridiculous.

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                #22
                Back to OP question on the transition from club
                Repeating others
                Physicality: Speed, Size, Strength. These are women
                Fitness matters. Better love the beep test
                Personal Time: 7a workouts most days
                Playing Time: You just might sit…. everyone else was The Star where they came from

                Adding New
                Identity. You will spend a lot kore time with team and the relationships get extreme. “Family” includes sister fights.

                Change: Each year Seniors Out, Freshman In
                50-50 chance the coach changes over 4-year period.

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                  #23
                  I'm just not really convinced that the education is better at say Bowdoin vs a good state school like UVM. And on the social side you'll find less down to earth people at Bowdoin and you'll end up with a lock-jaw and look-down-your nose complex that will take years of therapy to sort out. Plus those NESCAC schools are really expensive.

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                    #24
                    NYU or UChicago over some ACC schools. But really all depends on course of study. Also NESCAC (D3) schools and some PATRIOT LEAGUE (D1) usually don't leverage the transfer portal as much as other leagues. Syracuse and Penn State both have at least 7 transfer coming in. Didn't bode well for trur freshman going there.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      NYU or UChicago over some ACC schools. But really all depends on course of study. Also NESCAC (D3) schools and some PATRIOT LEAGUE (D1) usually don't leverage the transfer portal as much as other leagues. Syracuse and Penn State both have at least 7 transfer coming in. Didn't bode well for trur freshman going there.
                      Not everyone wants their kids to go to a liberal bastion of educational elitists.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post
                        NYU or UChicago over some ACC schools. But really all depends on course of study. Also NESCAC (D3) schools and some PATRIOT LEAGUE (D1) usually don't leverage the transfer portal as much as other leagues. Syracuse and Penn State both have at least 7 transfer coming in. Didn't bode well for trur freshman going there.
                        What ACC colleges are you referring to in comparison to NYU & UChicago?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post
                          I'm just not really convinced that the education is better at say Bowdoin vs a good state school like UVM. And on the social side you'll find less down to earth people at Bowdoin and you'll end up with a lock-jaw and look-down-your nose complex that will take years of therapy to sort out. Plus those NESCAC schools are really expensive.
                          In soccer, players perform and improve the most when they are playing with other strong players. Similarly, students will perform and improve more when they are surrounded by other smart and motivated students. Also similar to soccer where coaches can push stronger players harder and faster to develop, a college with smarter students can teach more material at a faster pace and with more rigor. Of course, just like in soccer where there are players who end up not taking advantage of all of the opportunities they have being on a strong team, there will be students at stronger school environments who do not make the most of their opportunities. But in the case of comparing Bowdoin to UVM (or other middle-of-the-road state school), just by pure statistical probability the Bowdoin student is much more likely to be surrounded by stronger and more driven students than at UVM which has lower academic requirements for admissions. This is NOT to say there aren't smart and driven students at UVM...but just that those smart and driven students are a smaller part of the student population than at a place like Bowdoin. Obviously, Ivy League offers the best of both worlds...but that is why their acceptance rates are generally below 4%...

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Not everyone wants their kids to go to a liberal bastion of educational elitists.
                            NYU and U Chicago don't really fall into the category of "liberal bastion of educational elitists". Amherst and Williams, yes. NYU and Chicago, no. In general, the UAA schools are all excellent...they don't have the name recognition of places like Duke, but people only really know Duke because they have prestigious basketball and football programs that have nothing to do with educational excellence. If you compare Duke to Wash U in terms of things like endowment, research dollars, etc, Wash U is every bit the equal of Duke...but they are lesser known because they don't have teams in March Madness or Bowl games.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              Not everyone wants their kids to go to a liberal bastion of educational elitists.
                              This is so true, Many lefty parents can’t imagine not wanting their kid to go IVY or NESCAC. I had my D talk with an IVy that was interested out of respect but pushed her to consider other options. I wasn’t interested in reprogramming her every summer

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                This is so true, Many lefty parents can’t imagine not wanting their kid to go IVY or NESCAC. I had my D talk with an IVy that was interested out of respect but pushed her to consider other options. I wasn’t interested in reprogramming her every summer
                                Everyone assumes all the Ivies and NESCACs are liberal. Trinity, Tufts, Dartmouth and Cornell do not skew particularly left...

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