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    #16
    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    The person that wrote this article does.
    Which is why the soccer community has trouble taking it seriously.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      Which is why the soccer community has trouble taking it seriously.
      No, the "soccer communities" clubs didnt get picked + now people are big mad.

      be thankful that we have the rankings app now to define the actual truth.

      I like how everything is evolving. All the backroom deals are starting to get called out. Alll hell is going to break loose when the rankings app adds player goals scored and goalie shots blocked. Groups like ODP, PDP, and general Talent ID will be turned on its head.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        The person that wrote this article does.
        One of the parameters mentioned for NEFC is “throws a good tournament.”

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          #19
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          No, the "soccer communities" clubs didnt get picked + now people are big mad.

          be thankful that we have the rankings app now to define the actual truth.

          I like how everything is evolving. All the backroom deals are starting to get called out. Alll hell is going to break loose when the rankings app adds player goals scored and goalie shots blocked. Groups like ODP, PDP, and general Talent ID will be turned on its head.
          Umm. What?

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            #20
            Clubs are about more than just who has the best teams. Its college placements, tournaments, how they interact with their community. SUSA has some really good teams but they're also not well liked in NY due to business practices.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              No, the "soccer communities" clubs didnt get picked + now people are big mad.

              be thankful that we have the rankings app now to define the actual truth.

              I like how everything is evolving. All the backroom deals are starting to get called out. Alll hell is going to break loose when the rankings app adds player goals scored and goalie shots blocked. Groups like ODP, PDP, and general Talent ID will be turned on its head.
              Truth! There’s too many insiders pulling strings in what can be on its face a subjective game, but like chess there are different levels of understanding at work and it’s not entirely clear we have the most intelligent folks at the controls. Just because you know how to play doesn’t mean you see the next move, just because you see the next move doesn’t mean you can see and evaluate other simultaneous options and pick the best one, just be pick the best of many options doesn’t mean you see the future options each move affords you, etc.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                Truth! There’s too many insiders pulling strings in what can be on its face a subjective game, but like chess there are different levels of understanding at work and it’s not entirely clear we have the most intelligent folks at the controls. Just because you know how to play doesn’t mean you see the next move, just because you see the next move doesn’t mean you can see and evaluate other simultaneous options and pick the best one, just be pick the best of many options doesn’t mean you see the future options each move affords you, etc.
                The problem is Talent ID recruiters...

                Can pick the best + make no money/connections on the side

                Can pick a mix of the best
                + not the best + make some some money/connections on the side

                Can pick only not the best + make lots of money/connections on the side

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                  #23
                  What the F are you talking about?

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                    #24
                    The dirtiest of secrets about the world of club soccer…wait you thought the crème rises to the top? Hahah

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      The list says "Ten OF the best clubs" not "THE TEN BEST CLUBS"
                      Soccer wire agrees, 2022 list so not much has changed. NEFC is still, nationally, considered the best club in the area. Sorry Stars

                      https://www.soccerwire.com/news/socc...son-kicks-off/

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post
                        What the F are you talking about?
                        Not OP.

                        At the u15 and younger level, it's a myth that national scouts pull players for YNT. It’s 100% club Director recommendation. And those directors have discovered it’s a great way to make extra money. Or reward their favorites. Or attempt to retain a middle of the pack player. Or some other politics. Merit doesn’t really come into it at this age range.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          Not OP.

                          At the u15 and younger level, it's a myth that national scouts pull players for YNT. It’s 100% club Director recommendation. And those directors have discovered it’s a great way to make extra money. Or reward their favorites. Or attempt to retain a middle of the pack player. Or some other politics. Merit doesn’t really come into it at this age range.
                          Agree that it’s DOC recs but disagree that it’s heavily political. Look at kids that went to ID camps and track their progress. Not a 100% hit rate but good percentage of kids that get called in multiple times or end up all Americans or go D1.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Agree that it’s DOC recs but disagree that it’s heavily political. Look at kids that went to ID camps and track their progress. Not a 100% hit rate but good percentage of kids that get called in multiple times or end up all Americans or go D1.
                            DOCs would lose credibility if they send undeserving kids. Credibility is what allows them to place kids at colleges. They would undermine their whole business model.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              DOCs would lose credibility if they send undeserving kids. Credibility is what allows them to place kids at colleges. They would undermine their whole business model.
                              DOCs can send whoever they want to Talent IDs.

                              ODP PDP + others need DOC recommendations more than DOCs need ODP PDP or general Talent IDs.

                              DOCs us Talent ID access as a recruitment and retention tool.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                DOCs can send whoever they want to Talent IDs.

                                ODP PDP + others need DOC recommendations more than DOCs need ODP PDP or general Talent IDs.

                                DOCs us Talent ID access as a recruitment and retention tool.
                                This.

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