Is it really play GA or ECNL or nothing?

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I have no idea the number of looks each will get. I can't be in two places at once.

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Wrong. I state that as a parent of a kid who's team was never in the playoffs (GA or ECNL), was at best mid-table, and still had a considerable amount of activity. Coaches absolutely look at how you handle winning, losing, playing ahead and playing from behind. When they talk to current coaches, past coaches, opposing coaches, these are the questions they ask

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It's actually true. If you want to see how a kid plays when it's tough and they are up against it, wouldn't you rather watch them handle Blue vs. some other minor league club? At some point, common sense needs to be considered.

No apologies necessary. I'm laughing all the way to the bank!!

I'm happy that things worked out for you but logically digging from the bottom of the barrel vs pulling from the top of another barrel doesn't make sense.

Your club must have very good placement + college connections for players if they're fielding .300 teams + players are getting D1 offers.

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I have no idea the number of looks each will get. I can't be in two places at once.

However:



I agree



Wrong. I state that as a parent of a kid who's team was never in the playoffs (GA or ECNL), was at best mid-table, and still had a considerable amount of activity. Coaches absolutely look at how you handle winning, losing, playing ahead and playing from behind. When they talk to current coaches, past coaches, opposing coaches, these are the questions they ask

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It's actually true. If you want to see how a kid plays when it's tough and they are up against it, wouldn't you rather watch them handle Blue vs. some other minor league club? At some point, common sense needs to be considered.





I'm happy that things worked out for you but logically digging from the bottom of the barrel vs pulling from the top of another barrel doesn't make sense.

Your club must have very good placement + college connections for players if they're fielding .300 teams + players are getting D1 offers.

I'll never state if she were on a top team things wouldn't have been different. I assume so, but the reality is where she was and how she played and in front of whom was a successful path. I'm not in the habit of making statements that are deemed factual without any direct knowledge. And, I know for a fact that at least three of the offers came about after performing very well against a much better team.

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I'll never state if she were on a top team things wouldn't have been different. I assume so, but the reality is where she was and how she played and in front of whom was a successful path. I'm not in the habit of making statements that are deemed factual without any direct knowledge. And, I know for a fact that at least three of the offers came about after performing very well against a much better team.

So you attended a showcase and your kid played well against a better team + started getting offers after.

I guess that's possible. Also I can see your club pulling out all the stops if a big college is trying to pull from a losing team.

However just like with parents and clubs, recruiters are also using the ranking app now. This allows them to look beyond the traditional paths to see who else might be available. Just depends on how much work recruiters want to put into finding players.

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So you attended a showcase and your kid played well against a better team + started getting offers after.

I guess that's possible. Also I can see your club pulling out all the stops if a big college is trying to pull from a losing team.

However just like with parents and clubs, recruiters are also using the ranking app now. This allows them to look beyond the traditional paths to see who else might be available. Just depends on how much work recruiters want to put into finding players.

Not quite that simple. She was watched several times, some schools going back well before recruiting age and up through Junior year. Some were more recent, and only late in the game. The ones I mentioned, when we sat down with them and they talked about what they saw in the player, mentioned specific games they saw and what they liked about her during those games. These games took place in Showcases, but also in league games.

There really isn't a simple equation like some make it out to be.

As for what the club did, they are well-versed at this and supported her efforts wholeheartedly.

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Not quite that simple. She was watched several times, some schools going back well before recruiting age and up through Junior year. Some were more recent, and only late in the game. The ones I mentioned, when we sat down with them and they talked about what they saw in the player, mentioned specific games they saw and what they liked about her during those games. These games took place in Showcases, but also in league games.

There really isn't a simple equation like some make it out to be.

As for what the club did, they are well-versed at this and supported her efforts wholeheartedly.

How many from the .300 team were recruited?

Almost everyone on top ECNL and GA teams have multiple offers. Some of the offers are better than others but there are several to choose from.

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How many from the .300 team were recruited?

Almost everyone on top ECNL and GA teams have multiple offers. Some of the offers are better than others but there are several to choose from.

I want to say everyone but maybe 1-2. A couple were D3 but most were D1, playing at various levels of programs. That was for the latest team. The earlier one, about half and half of that were for D1

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I want to say everyone but maybe 1-2. A couple were D3 but most were D1, playing at various levels of programs. That was for the latest team. The earlier one, about half and half of that were for D1

If this is true it's frightening.

If it's true it also shows that D1 womens soccer is all about who you know vs what happens on the field.

Eventually a Coach Prime type personality will come in and expose it all by bringing on the castaways + making things work.

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If this is true it's frightening.

If it's true it also shows that D1 womens soccer is all about who you know vs what happens on the field.

Eventually a Coach Prime type personality will come in and expose it all by bringing on the castaways + making things work.

I'm really surprised you are positioning this as something new. This has been bandied about for years on here. Just look at the clubs' that put their commitment lists out there.

There are a thousand college programs out there; 360+ in D1 alone. Figure a roster of ~30 per team, that's like 10,000 players. Are you really trying to say all come from winning teams?

What you mean to say in your statement isn't the own you think it is. It is about what happens on the field, by the players. They recruit players, and need to see players competing against other high-level players. That is why it's hard to be noticed if you are on a wining team in a minor league -big fish/small pond. Team records are irrelevant for them.

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I'm really surprised you are positioning this as something new. This has been bandied about for years on here. Just look at the clubs' that put their commitment lists out there.

There are a thousand college programs out there; 360+ in D1 alone. Figure a roster of ~30 per team, that's like 10,000 players. Are you really trying to say all come from winning teams?

What you mean to say in your statement isn't the own you think it is. It is about what happens on the field, by the players. They recruit players, and need to see players competing against other high-level players. That is why it's hard to be noticed if you are on a wining team in a minor league -big fish/small pond. Team records are irrelevant for them.

^^^this^^^

In San Diego last June, I was watching a showcase B game before my kid’s game and 2 P5 coaches were standing next to me talking to the parents of a kid that was playing (her team was losing in the lowest tier of playoffs and at that age group almost everyone qualifies). They were gushing over her and putting on the full count press. By ECNL standards, she plays for a “bad” team.

Once again, coaches recruit players, not teams. Do top teams get more eyeballs? Sure. My kid is on a strong team and they average about 60-70 coaches per game at showcases. But all that matters is if the coaches SHE contacts come to watch.

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You have to play ECNL or GA to be seen at the showcases. Yes some smaller clubs go to showcases but not as many and not the highly visible ones. Coaches recruit players not teams so being on a winning team does not matter no matter how many times people on TS say their team is better. Coaches do not care.

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Players are limited to the available choices where they live. Coaches are going to understand that sometimes someone great just happens to only live near bad teams.

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Players are limited to the available choices where they live. Coaches are going to understand that sometimes someone great just happens to only live near bad teams.

Yes, nobody won't be considered. You just know you have to take your game to them vs. the other way around. It's just much, much harder.

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I think people misunderstood when I said that you need to play for a winning team. Also I agree that recruiters recruit for positions or players not teams.

Here's recruiters order of priority.

1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team
3. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked "other" team
4. Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
5. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league
6 Everything else. Finding Players at random tournamants, or walkons, local leagues etc

I realize some parents want to discount winning. But this is a fundamental part of playing a game.

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Yes. (I’m just replying to the title and haven’t read any of the comments)

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I think people misunderstood when I said that you need to play for a winning team. Also I agree that recruiters recruit for positions or players not teams.

Here's recruiters order of priority.

1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team
3. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked "other" team
4. Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
5. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league
6 Everything else. Finding Players at random tournamants, or walkons, local leagues etc

I realize some parents want to discount winning. But this is a fundamental part of playing a game.

fixed it for you:
(Remove #3 and add those other teams you are trying to include into number 6, everything else.)

D1 and D2 (and too Ivy D3)
1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team

D2 and D3
3.Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
4. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league

high school and community college
6 Everything else.