Major changes to Transfer rules

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A few major changes to how 4 year transfer athlete's athletic scholarship money will be handled / guaranteed will significantly effect how coaches evaluate brining in transfer players....and whether or not kids in the portal can actually find a home.

With athletic money being guaranteed for a "4 year athletic transfer" until they: 1) graduate 2) transfer again 3) go pro;

I think you will see coaches approach transfers VERY cautiously.


https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/gov...sal2022-20.pdf

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that document is a nightmare - where is the specific issue addressed?

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that document is a nightmare - where is the specific issue addressed?

Wow. ADD? It's only a 10 page document.

The new athletic money guarantee starts at Question 24 and the details continue from there.

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Wow. ADD? It's only a 10 page document.

The new athletic money guarantee starts at Question 24 and the details continue from there.

Thanks. Yes it is a very repetitive document that I didn’t have time to sift through. Problem is only Power 5 conferences and a few other exceptions allow a guaranteed 4 year athletic grant. All others are year to year and don't seem to apply in this case. Being forced to pay for another coach's decisions would choke the transfer portal dead

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Target wisely and avoid the transfer portal. Problem solved.

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Maybe I’m missing something but this seems to make things better for players trying to find their home out of HS. Not easy competing with players looking for greener grass.

players should be encouraged to choose a college that they love even without soccer. That way if the soccer doesn’t pan out, they still have a wonderful school to receive an education. Too many parents pushing their kids to the highest level of soccer possible without considering it’s not the main reason to go to college. See it all the time in the D1 ******* contest threads. Choose a school for the SCHOOL and you don’t need to transfer for soccer.

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Thanks. Yes it is a very repetitive document that I didn’t have time to sift through. Problem is only Power 5 conferences and a few other exceptions allow a guaranteed 4 year athletic grant. All others are year to year and don't seem to apply in this case. Being forced to pay for another coach's decisions would choke the transfer portal dead

From my reading...this eliminates any "year to year" athletic money entirely for all of D1. EVERYONE that is a transfer player is guaranteed money at their new school destination for their 5 year window.

-Until they graduate
-Even if they have played for 4 years and have used up heir eligibility
-Even if they take a semester off school
-Even if they become academically ineligible
-Even if the enter the transfer portal (if they in fact transfer, then the school is off the hook)

-EVEN IF THEY QUIT THE SPORT / TEAM

Their athletic scholarship can not be reduced. So, It can't be year to year. It can be "averaged" and / or increased only. The schools are on the hook with these transfer players til they graduate or their 5 year window closes which ever comes first.

AND they count against the 14 allowable.

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Maybe I’m missing something but this seems to make things better for players trying to find their home out of HS. Not easy competing with players looking for greener grass.

players should be encouraged to choose a college that they love even without soccer. That way if the soccer doesn’t pan out, they still have a wonderful school to receive an education. Too many parents pushing their kids to the highest level of soccer possible without considering it’s not the main reason to go to college. See it all the time in the D1 ******* contest threads. Choose a school for the SCHOOL and you don’t need to transfer for soccer.

yes, it looks like this swings the pendulum back toward freshman recruits and away from the transfer portal.

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So if you transfer after year 1, your scholarship is locked in at the new school. Are you saying there will be less transfers since schools only want kids who they can have on year to year scholarship basis? I see very little effect this will have on transferring as 94% of scholarships are renewed until graduation anyway.

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So if you transfer after year 1, your scholarship is locked in at the new school. Are you saying there will be less transfers since schools only want kids who they can have on year to year scholarship basis? I see very little effect this will have on transferring as 94% of scholarships are renewed until graduation anyway.

Yes...if the new school offers $$$ then they are locked into that amount for the entire 5 year window even if the
player quits the sport....on a player that has already left 1 program because they weren't happy for what ever reason.

So, IMO coaches will absolutely be very warry offering players with multiple years of eligibility any significant athletic money.

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Yes...if the new school offers $$$ then they are locked into that amount for the entire 5 year window even if the
player quits the sport....on a player that has already left 1 program because they weren't happy for what ever reason.

So, IMO coaches will absolutely be very warry offering players with multiple years of eligibility any significant athletic money.

Yeah this isn''t the good news some may think it is. Coaches are taking a risk locking in on someone

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Yeah this isn''t the good news some may think it is. Coaches are taking a risk locking in on someone

"I could go either way on this one, Bob"

-Sam Malone

I can see positives and negatives. Yes, you are going to REALLY commit to a player who has already shown they can change their mind, understanding there are many reasons to transfer and some are valid, some are not. Conversely, you are at least seeing a player who has actually played in college vs. one who hasn't and you are guessing, hopefully educationally, that they can. May come down to the school's philosophy of changing money around after year 1 and how common that is. Meaning if they offer a four year merit and traditionally stick to it, being locked in financially may not be a big deal?

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"I could go either way on this one, Bob"

-Sam Malone

I can see positives and negatives. Yes, you are going to REALLY commit to a player who has already shown they can change their mind, understanding there are many reasons to transfer and some are valid, some are not. Conversely, you are at least seeing a player who has actually played in college vs. one who hasn't and you are guessing, hopefully educationally, that they can. May come down to the school's philosophy of changing money around after year 1 and how common that is. Meaning if they offer a four year merit and traditionally stick to it, being locked in financially may not be a big deal?

Agreed - but that player will have to be a proven entity for that coach to be more comfortable with the risks. If you didn't play much, then not so much. Merit is usually less of an issue because most schools will match and even do better with transfer students because you have proven (hopefully) you can do the academic work.

Also agree with above that targeting as best you can for a good soccer fit from the beginning is a better way to avoid all of this.

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So if you transfer after year 1, your scholarship is locked in at the new school. Are you saying there will be less transfers since schools only want kids who they can have on year to year scholarship basis? I see very little effect this will have on transferring as 94% of scholarships are renewed until graduation anyway.

Is this accurate, and is there anywhere to back that detail up? Not by any means questioning it, but following another thread centered around the likelihood of scholarships getting renewed, this would be good info.

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For those players entering the transfer portal means they are desperate to start fresh and play soccer. I would think the vast majority of those players in the transfer portal will voluntarily walk away from their athletic scholarship and not have that as an issue going forward to a potential transfer. Look at the numbers of transfers this past year. The vast majority never had a bite. Those in the transfer portal will give up their athletic scholarship for a second chance.