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    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    Question : all these kids trying out with new teams over the winter are they getting verbal or written offers? Just curious how this works?
    depends on the club. By mid April if you’ve been visiting practices you’d know, some earlier. Don’t wait for tryouts.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      Question : all these kids trying out with new teams over the winter are they getting verbal or written offers? Just curious how this works?
      This early, you'd think the offer would be for upcoming spring. Unlikely girls show up to winter practice and get offer for following year. Story changes in April.

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        Question : all these kids trying out with new teams over the winter are they getting verbal or written offers? Just curious how this works?
        If it’s for this year (immediate switch) it is written, if for next year it is verbal. Written contracts for newcomers happen at about the same time as contracts for returning players. A little before actually so that the club knows how many to keep from the bottom of its roster. They only verbally offer spots to no-brainers. Otherwise they hedge their offer some in case the recruiting brings in other, better players.

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          that is why they didnt qualify for champions league ? you know what you are talking about. wait, no you do not.
          did they qualify yes or no?

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            If it’s for this year (immediate switch) it is written, if for next year it is verbal. Written contracts for newcomers happen at about the same time as contracts for returning players. A little before actually so that the club knows how many to keep from the bottom of its roster. They only verbally offer spots to no-brainers. Otherwise they hedge their offer some in case the recruiting brings in other, better players.
            Our kid got a verbal offer for ECNL team for next year based on going to winter practice. Coach said written offer would come in March. Was also offered a spot for the spring but kid didn't want to switch clubs mid-year and potentially burn bridges with teammates and coaches.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              When are the kids from Select and NEFC moving to Stars?
              I don't think many will.

              Few want to drive to Lancaster.
              Even fewer trust the Stars coaches or want to deal with the awful Stars culture.
              That said, both teams are in a state of flux - as normal for GA teams when they approach U14/15.

              So how about it, Scorpions coaches?
              We all know you're desperate for some top end talent.
              Why should the best NEFC and SSS players move to your club?
              (Its not like the commute to Taunton is fantastic.)
              And please don't lean 100% on the ECNL patch.

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                I don't think many will.

                Few want to drive to Lancaster.
                Even fewer trust the Stars coaches or want to deal with the awful Stars culture.
                That said, both teams are in a state of flux - as normal for GA teams when they approach U14/15.

                So how about it, Scorpions coaches?
                We all know you're desperate for some top end talent.
                Why should the best NEFC and SSS players move to your club?
                (Its not like the commute to Taunton is fantastic.)
                And please don't lean 100% on the ECNL patch.
                Curious…. What is the “awful Stars culture”. Can you be more specific?

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  I don't think many will.

                  Few want to drive to Lancaster.
                  Even fewer trust the Stars coaches or want to deal with the awful Stars culture.
                  That said, both teams are in a state of flux - as normal for GA teams when they approach U14/15.

                  So how about it, Scorpions coaches?
                  We all know you're desperate for some top end talent.
                  Why should the best NEFC and SSS players move to your club?
                  (Its not like the commute to Taunton is fantastic.)
                  And please don't lean 100% on the ECNL patch.
                  I think you mean the Stars White coach for 2010 being the issue. Stars blue coach is great. I’d put my kid on Scorpions ECNL national if EB was committed to staying on as coach. The problem with that team is lack of consistency in coaching staff. I think NEFC players only jump if offered blue as they are trying to avoid SM on white. Others are worried they might make blue this year but as players migrate over to blue over next two years could lose spot and drop down to White or Regional. Staying on GA might be better than to risk that roller coaster.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Curious…. What is the “awful Stars culture”. Can you be more specific?
                    To sum up:

                    White: abusive. manipulative. the place good Blue players go to retire after getting screwed over because a Blue coach found a shiny new toy (who in turn will end up on White in 6 months).
                    Blue: much better coaching. not abusive. truly don't give a damn about any player. claim merit-focused but heavily political/money oriented. girls are rivals/enemies, not teammates - but can you blame them, really?

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Our kid got a verbal offer for ECNL team for next year based on going to winter practice. Coach said written offer would come in March. Was also offered a spot for the spring but kid didn't want to switch clubs mid-year and potentially burn bridges with teammates and coaches.
                      I'd confirm who the coach maybe, before making any decisions

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        To sum up:

                        White: abusive. manipulative. the place good Blue players go to retire after getting screwed over because a Blue coach found a shiny new toy (who in turn will end up on White in 6 months).
                        Blue: much better coaching. not abusive. truly don't give a damn about any player. claim merit-focused but heavily political/money oriented. girls are rivals/enemies, not teammates - but can you blame them, really?
                        I'll even give an example:

                        Blue coach just spent the winter scouring the futsal courts. Heavily recruited at least 4 NEFC players promising starting roles. At least 1 SSS player too. That's 5 players minimum offered starting roles. What about the current 5 Blue starters? You know the ones that were offered year-long contracts? What about the 5 girls on the bench behind them? Mind you - this is MID SEASON. Does this coach give a damn about any of them?? Obviously not.

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          Curious…. What is the “awful Stars culture”. Can you be more specific?
                          There is no awful culture at Stars Blue. This is just a hater.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            There is no awful culture at Stars Blue. This is just a hater.
                            Or you could try reading.

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              To sum up:

                              White: abusive. manipulative. the place good Blue players go to retire after getting screwed over because a Blue coach found a shiny new toy (who in turn will end up on White in 6 months).
                              Blue: much better coaching. not abusive. truly don't give a damn about any player. claim merit-focused but heavily political/money oriented. girls are rivals/enemies, not teammates - but can you blame them, really?
                              Has your kid experienced this personally, or are you just repeating what you read on TS?

                              My kid is a HS aged Stars Blue ECNL player. She’s very close with her teammates. When you say the coaching for White is “abusive”, you’re talking about one coach (SM is definitely not everyone’s cup of tea), but he doesn’t actually coach the older ECNL teams. I would agree that Blue coaching is stronger—specifically GB and JD (although JD only has the one team at this point). And playing for the Blue coaches isn’t exactly sunshine and rainbows—expectations are very high and it’s very competitive, but that’s what prepares these kids to compete in college. It’s not for everyone. The most unhappy kids I have seen throughout my kid’s time at the club are the ones who have parents that are overly invested and are pushing their kid down a path that they don’t necessarily want.

                              As for the claim that Blue players are on rosters because of politics/money—not at the recruiting ages. A kid that doesn’t have the talent to be there would be exposed VERY quickly.

                              Take it for what it’s worth, but many of the in depth descriptions of the Stars “culture” on TS comes from parents who don’t have a kid at the club.







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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                I'll even give an example:

                                Blue coach just spent the winter scouring the futsal courts. Heavily recruited at least 4 NEFC players promising starting roles. At least 1 SSS player too. That's 5 players minimum offered starting roles. What about the current 5 Blue starters? You know the ones that were offered year-long contracts? What about the 5 girls on the bench behind them? Mind you - this is MID SEASON. Does this coach give a damn about any of them?? Obviously not.
                                I don't know the specifics of this team, but all of these teams are top heavy at this age. Most teams are made up of a few studs, a few right behind them, a few that are ok, and a few that will be playing on a less competitive team in the near future. Id imagine that the studs at the top of NEFCs roster, should rate above the last two groups on a Stars roster.

                                Thats the beauty of competitive sports. You don't keep your place due to seniority. If someone else is better, they get the nod. (although that shoots down the politics narrative being pushed above). Id hope all ECNL and GA teams are run this way.

                                BTW, those 'year long' contracts do not guarantee a starting position, playing time or even suiting up for games. Read them.

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