2010 Girls

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You really think you can keep your kid on a 2nd tier team and then just jump onto a top team whenever you feel like it?

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I’m not “keeping” my kid anywhere. I’m allowing her to develop and not pay a ton for it. She doesn’t need the confidence crushing environment of ECNL (white especially). The youngest 2010s are 6th graders. No 6 th grader needs to be on an expensive ECNL team, or choosing one sport at this time. We have other players that are better than 2010 ECNL players but no desire at this age to quit club lacrosse to focus only on ECNL. Our kids may or may not be able to adjust to the “speed of play” in 8th grade that ECNL parents talk about. Our kids may even stay on 2nd teams but they are happy in impact. We are happy as parents. You do you. You parent your way.

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I’m not “keeping” my kid anywhere. I’m allowing her to develop and not pay a ton for it. She doesn’t need the confidence crushing environment of ECNL (white especially). The youngest 2010s are 6th graders. No 6 th grader needs to be on an expensive ECNL team, or choosing one sport at this time. We have other players that are better than 2010 ECNL players but no desire at this age to quit club lacrosse to focus only on ECNL. Our kids may or may not be able to adjust to the “speed of play” in 8th grade that ECNL parents talk about. Our kids may even stay on 2nd teams but they are happy in impact. We are happy as parents. You do you. You parent your way.

As an ECNL parent, I agree with much of what you say here, to an extent. The two Stars teams each have at least 5 kids that could likely be displaced by the top girls on other clubs. Scorpions has twice that number. However, I would say that the gap of the top ECNL kids and the top girls that we know from other clubs has widened significantly in the past couple of years. When comparing your kids to ECNL kids, try to get a feel for where that ECNL kid ranks on the team. If your kid is better than a kid who won’t be there in a year, it’s not a good benchmark. As you mention, most of the ECNL kids have dropped their other sports to rec-only level of commitment. If your daughter does decide that she wants to commit and play soccer competitively and in college, moving to ECNL sooner than later is advised. But as you said, you do you. What works for your family is always best. The other poster is likely a dad of a kid who is near the bottom of the team and feels a need to make himself feel important, or trying to scare off his daughter’s competition.

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As an ECNL parent, I agree with much of what you say here, to an extent. The two Stars teams each have at least 5 kids that could likely be displaced by the top girls on other clubs. Scorpions has twice that number. However, I would say that the gap of the top ECNL kids and the top girls that we know from other clubs has widened significantly in the past couple of years. When comparing your kids to ECNL kids, try to get a feel for where that ECNL kid ranks on the team. If your kid is better than a kid who won’t be there in a year, it’s not a good benchmark. As you mention, most of the ECNL kids have dropped their other sports to rec-only level of commitment. If your daughter does decide that she wants to commit and play soccer competitively and in college, moving to ECNL sooner than later is advised. But as you said, you do you. What works for your family is always best. The other poster is likely a dad of a kid who is near the bottom of the team and feels a need to make himself feel important, or trying to scare off his daughter’s competition.

I have daughters at top and 2nd tier levels. And I welcome competition as it makes my kids better. So much for your analysis..

My point is that other than individual footskills and shooting, you won't develop proper soccer skills unless you practice with top talent against top talent.

You're deluding yourself if you think a lacrosse player can just step onto an ECNL team. If she runs the fastest 100 meter in the state and has solid footskills, then sure. Otherwise, better get your kid in a top competitive soccer environment. There are *currently* 4 at this age group.

Anything else is just platitudes so you feel better about your choices, because people feel bad for you.

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”There are *currently* 4 at this age group.”
wjat are the 4?

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I have daughters at top and 2nd tier levels. And I welcome competition as it makes my kids better. So much for your analysis..

My point is that other than individual footskills and shooting, you won't develop proper soccer skills unless you practice with top talent against top talent.

You're deluding yourself if you think a lacrosse player can just step onto an ECNL team. If she runs the fastest 100 meter in the state and has solid footskills, then sure. Otherwise, better get your kid in a top competitive soccer environment. There are *currently* 4 at this age group.

Anything else is just platitudes so you feel better about your choices, because people feel bad for you.

Of course an athletic exclusive Lacrosse player cannot jump over to ECNL at U13. However a very good soccer player who also happens to play lacrosse can make the jump. There are absolutely girls in Impact and DPL that can transition to ECNL. I know of a handful of girls across the state that can displace the bottom girls on my daughters ECNL team. You are the one deluding yourself if you can’t acknowledge that newcomers will come and displace kids currently on U13 ECNL rosters.

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Of course an athletic exclusive Lacrosse player cannot jump over to ECNL at U13. However a very good soccer player who also happens to play lacrosse can make the jump. There are absolutely girls in Impact and DPL that can transition to ECNL. I know of a handful of girls across the state that can displace the bottom girls on my daughters ECNL team. You are the one deluding yourself if you can’t acknowledge that newcomers will come and displace kids currently on U13 ECNL rosters.

Scorpions and White? There will be bench spots for top Impact players.

Blue? Historically, about 1 Impact player makes it (usually Aztec). The rest are legacy blue, former white, former GA.

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At 2010 you will see a lot of ecnl migration over the next three years especially has they head into high school.

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Scorpions and White? There will be bench spots for top Impact players.

Blue? Historically, about 1 Impact player makes it (usually Aztec). The rest are legacy blue, former white, former GA.

Too funny how the ECNL story is, at the same time:
- we will take all your best players, resistance is futile
- we don’t want your stinking players

There are at least 4 recent Impact players on 2008 Blue.

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Too funny how the ECNL story is, at the same time:
- we will take all your best players, resistance is futile
- we don’t want your stinking players

There are at least 4 recent Impact players on 2008 Blue.

Stars Blue 2008 didn't get any Nefc 2008s. That's why. They don't seem to be getting Nefc 2009s or 2010s either, so maybe there is hope for Impact?

Not sure about Select.

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Stars Blue 2008 didn't get any Nefc 2008s. That's why. They don't seem to be getting Nefc 2009s or 2010s either, so maybe there is hope for Impact?

Not sure about Select.

Let's take this a step further.

Read this STARS article.
https://www.starsofma.org/news_article/show/1230717

2007 Blue stole a handful of NEFC and Select players.
They seem to have done well in playoffs.

2008 Blue has no NEFC and maybe no Select? Maybe Impact filler players instead? Regardless, their OWN COACH called them a disappointment.

2009 Blue also lacks GA players. Likely Impact fillers. They were the worst. Embarrassing even.

Read the article. In STARS own words

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All this chatter over an age group in 6th and 7th grade. Come back in two years. It will be more interesting when we hear about the girls starting high school and the trapped 8th graders. For now you are are arguing and speculating about girls who many haven’t even hit puberty or growth spurts. The parents of this group and younger are for the most part more educated about injury prevention, burn out and mental health. The old ways of training girls is changing. The upcoming coaches attending seminars and educating themselves on proper player development and injury prevention will replace the old toxic coaches.

2010s are the beginning of better soccer, better coaching, parents and hopefully a better experience for all.

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Let's take this a step further.

Read this STARS article.
https://www.starsofma.org/news_article/show/1230717

2007 Blue stole a handful of NEFC and Select players.
They seem to have done well in playoffs.

2008 Blue has no NEFC and maybe no Select? Maybe Impact filler players instead? Regardless, their OWN COACH called them a disappointment.

2009 Blue also lacks GA players. Likely Impact fillers. They were the worst. Embarrassing even.

Read the article. In STARS own words

Coach says losing a game in the national playoffs was a disappointment and you spin that to say he is disappointed with his team. Ok.

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All this chatter over an age group in 6th and 7th grade. Come back in two years. It will be more interesting when we hear about the girls starting high school and the trapped 8th graders. For now you are are arguing and speculating about girls who many haven’t even hit puberty or growth spurts. The parents of this group and younger are for the most part more educated about injury prevention, burn out and mental health. The old ways of training girls is changing. The upcoming coaches attending seminars and educating themselves on proper player development and injury prevention will replace the old toxic coaches.

2010s are the beginning of better soccer, better coaching, parents and hopefully a better experience for all.

Is that the Stars way though?!?!?! You suck! You made it all the way to the national finals and couldn’t win! Good luck getting a spot next year!!!

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I know this is talking soccer, but for those familiar with futsal; does anyone know this “2010” goalie? My daughter, 08, played a Flair team. Goalie was solid, but rumor was she was a 2010. If you know her, is she REALLY a 2010 or is this another example of Flair bending/breaking the rules? She arguable was one of the biggest girls on the court.