2010 Girls

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Nobody good is going to NEFC tryouts. They are only getting dpl players now

So who'll fill the spots of those NEFC players that left to join Blue?

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So who'll fill the spots of those NEFC players that left to join Blue?

Several NEFC through practices this spring but only one at group tryouts. Did she get a Blue or White offer?

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I understand the older teams have losing records but is that because when kids dont make blue they decide to find another top team instead of going to white leaving the team with gaps or because there just that bad? I may be wrong but if people could put ego's aside in this age group and gave it a shot they could be surprised. I mean if the kids are that talented and I'm not disputing anyone's talented then one of 3 things could happen 1. White has a pretty solid team 2. The kid shines enough through hard work to make blue next year dispote whites win/loss record or 3. They are still that good and decide to test other teams the following year if they are not happy with how things are going. If they are good enough they will find a spot easily somewhere else if they are not happy.. why not at least give it a shot

Some truth here. Many kids bolt Stars if they get cut from Blue which weakens White’s potential. If those kids through the years had stayed, White’s program as a whole would have been much better. Maybe this will start to change now that many no longer see GA as a viable option. Many Stars kids used to see nearby NEFC as their second choice. Select and Scorpions are not geographically viable options for many Stars families, so maybe now we see Stars White improve. Maybe that was the master plan behind letting Select into ECNL and crippling GA.

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What really needs to happen is for younger parents to look at the outcomes of the club soccer process and see if it matches what they expect, what they are being told and sold. (It does not, for the vast majority of players.)

Look at this list of commits by team, keeping in mind that there are 20-22 players on each team. Look at the fraction of the team that commits, and where they commit. Is that what 2010 parents expect?
https://www.starsofma.org/class-of-2023

It would also be a good idea for younger parents to understand the exceptional level of talent and commitment that is needed to play for a strong D1 soccer team; as well as what D3 soccer does and does not mean. That explains the commits for Stars Blue, that is the talent and commitment. It also explains why only a fraction of Stars White and RL players decide to play in college, as well as where they play in college.

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What really needs to happen is for younger parents to look at the outcomes of the club soccer process and see if it matches what they expect, what they are being told and sold. (It does not, for the vast majority of players.)

Look at this list of commits by team, keeping in mind that there are 20-22 players on each team. Look at the fraction of the team that commits, and where they commit. Is that what 2010 parents expect?
https://www.starsofma.org/class-of-2023

It would also be a good idea for younger parents to understand the exceptional level of talent and commitment that is needed to play for a strong D1 soccer team; as well as what D3 soccer does and does not mean. That explains the commits for Stars Blue, that is the talent and commitment. It also explains why only a fraction of Stars White and RL players decide to play in college, as well as where they play in college.

What does this have to do with accepting an offer to play on Stars White? The kid doesn’t have the option to go to Blue right now. If you want to compare college commitments between White and NEFC, Select or Scorpions then that would make sense but you seem to be answering a question that nobody asked.

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What does this have to do with accepting an offer to play on Stars White? The kid doesn’t have the option to go to Blue right now. If you want to compare college commitments between White and NEFC, Select or Scorpions then that would make sense but you seem to be answering a question that nobody asked.

Well, I’ll get to that. But you make a good point. Parents don’t know to ask the question when their kid was U13 or U14. They trust the coaches and the clubs. Which reminds me of that line from Animal House, “ You effed up, you trusted us.”

Last I checked, this was the 2010 thread. Not the “should I accept an offer from stars white” thread.

The reason the stars data is useful to parents at any club is to understand where the Club soccer process ends for the different levels of teams and players.

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Several NEFC through practices this spring but only one at group tryouts. Did she get a Blue or White offer?

Are you saying that NEFC will fill those holes with other NEFC players? DPL maybe?

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Well, I’ll get to that. But you make a good point. Parents don’t know to ask the question when their kid was U13 or U14. They trust the coaches and the clubs. Which reminds me of that line from Animal House, “ You effed up, you trusted us.”

Last I checked, this was the 2010 thread. Not the “should I accept an offer from stars white” thread.

The reason the stars data is useful to parents at any club is to understand where the Club soccer process ends for the different levels of teams and players.

This thread is 250+ pages deep, over 3800 posts. Like all conversations, it has moved from sub topic to sub topic. The immediate posts before yours was about why people leave Stars White for other clubs. If you want to take the conversation down a different path, go for it but don’t be surprised when someone calls you out for being a narrowly focused blow hard. So again, the college commitment list of Stars Blue has nothing to do with the posters current decision. That player did not get a Blue offer. The choice now is White or leave. So, if you want to pontificate about Blue’s college placement vs White, go ahead but it isn’t helpful to the current conversation. White vs NEFC, Select or Scorpions would though.

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This thread is 250+ pages deep, over 3800 posts. Like all conversations, it has moved from sub topic to sub topic. The immediate posts before yours was about why people leave Stars White for other clubs. If you want to take the conversation down a different path, go for it but don’t be surprised when someone calls you out for being a narrowly focused blow hard. So again, the college commitment list of Stars Blue has nothing to do with the posters current decision. That player did not get a Blue offer. The choice now is White or leave. So, if you want to pontificate about Blue’s college placement vs White, go ahead but it isn’t helpful to the current conversation. White vs NEFC, Select or Scorpions would though.

Commenting extensively about what opinions other people are allowed to post is the definition of a blow hard. Creepy.

A player who is changing teams or clubs is at an excellent point to evaluate what the player’s goals are and whether a fit can be found among the dogs breakfast of choices that the New England club soccer environment offers.

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Are you saying that NEFC will fill those holes with other NEFC players? DPL maybe?

nefc has lost 5 starters in 1.5 years.
plus another bench player is going to quit soccer.

they have exhausted all options with 2011 GA, 2010 NS DPL, 2010 MW DPL. then they raided Surf NE DPL.

there is nothing left. nowhere else to recruit. nobody wants to play for nefc anymore. GA girls still there are trapped and, yes, some are looking. coaching is awful. league is mediocre.

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Advice needed. Our team has not given all the offers to our players. It’s getting late in the season. If your player does not have an offer yet, but other players on the team have offers, and your player has gone to other tryouts of teams that are equal give or take and received two offers, do we wait for the first team to make an offer since that is the team the player likes the most, or just move along to another club where the player is good fit and clearly wanted. These offers have 2-3 day acceptance so waiting around for current club may be a bad move when the other clubs offers expire in 2/3 days.

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Commenting extensively about what opinions other people are allowed to post is the definition of a blow hard. Creepy.

A player who is changing teams or clubs is at an excellent point to evaluate what the player’s goals are and whether a fit can be found among the dogs breakfast of choices that the New England club soccer environment offers.

The player in question does not have an offer to Stars Blue. Reviewing Stars Blue’s commitments does nothing to assist the player in evaluating her choices.

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Advice needed. Our team has not given all the offers to our players. It’s getting late in the season. If your player does not have an offer yet, but other players on the team have offers, and your player has gone to other tryouts of teams that are equal give or take and received two offers, do we wait for the first team to make an offer since that is the team the player likes the most, or just move along to another club where the player is good fit and clearly wanted. These offers have 2-3 day acceptance so waiting around for current club may be a bad move when the other clubs offers expire in 2/3 days.

Call the decision maker directly. Get their feedback. If that does give you a clear direction, then make a decision based on the known information that you have in hand.

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Advice needed. Our team has not given all the offers to our players. It’s getting late in the season. If your player does not have an offer yet, but other players on the team have offers, and your player has gone to other tryouts of teams that are equal give or take and received two offers, do we wait for the first team to make an offer since that is the team the player likes the most, or just move along to another club where the player is good fit and clearly wanted. These offers have 2-3 day acceptance so waiting around for current club may be a bad move when the other clubs offers expire in 2/3 days.

If you are chasing them, they don’t want your kid, don’t bother calling them. If they do take you it’s for the money as top 11 already have offers I’m sure. Do you want your kid to be a Stars practice cone? Your kid is better off playing on a team they will play. Since all national offers are out I’m guess your kid is on a 2010 Stars regional teams. National is the priority. Actually BLUE will always be the priority. If you are on the 3rd-5th teams you are unimportant. If you are on 3rd-4th teams at Stars your kid has enough skill to likely land on another clubs 1st or 2nd team and will get better treatment. Take the offer and move along. I’ve known players who waited it out and ended up scrambling because they didn’t go to tryouts at other clubs.

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Advice needed. Our team has not given all the offers to our players. It’s getting late in the season. If your player does not have an offer yet, but other players on the team have offers, and your player has gone to other tryouts of teams that are equal give or take and received two offers, do we wait for the first team to make an offer since that is the team the player likes the most, or just move along to another club where the player is good fit and clearly wanted. These offers have 2-3 day acceptance so waiting around for current club may be a bad move when the other clubs offers expire in 2/3 days.

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