So many FC Stars teams

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Again, no parent is paying $2K plus for their kid to play club soccer on any team/division/league just to simply stay sharp for High-School. Is it delusion or ignorance? Probably a bit of both, but that's just how it is.

Wrong. Many do because many soccer families can afford it and soccer is their kids main activity/sport. If that wasn't happening you would see 2/3 of HS aged teams disappear. Not everyone is interested in the college track and/or they know that isn't realistic for them.

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Sorry. There are not many. Especially in MA, where there is an ECNL or GA team accessible to most families. But I understand why parents feel that way. They see their kid tearing it up in a lower league and think that they could “easily play” in the next league up. Then they send their kid to a team practice with one of those teams and it doesn’t go well. (Prior to the HS ages, there are certainly kids at smaller clubs that can make and impact those teams—they just haven’t moved yet. Once you hit u15 and up, it’s extremely rare.).

^ this

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Wrong. Many do because many soccer families can afford it and soccer is their kids main activity/sport. If that wasn't happening you would see 2/3 of HS aged teams disappear. Not everyone is interested in the college track and/or they know that isn't realistic for them.

2/3 of HS aged teams do disappear.

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2/3 of HS aged teams do disappear.

I don't think they were talking about the middle school into high school funnel, but there are loads of hs aged teams out there with almost no players thinking college is realistic. they may "want" to play but usually by 9th/10th grade are very well aware it's not happening

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Right. If during your Sophomore year of HS you play on an...
ECNL team, you 100% expect your D to commit to a college before Dec of her Jr. year. Where, when, and for how much varies.
ECNL-R you expect your D to play in college, but your own club has tempered your expectations and you likely target very well.
GAL team you bring ECNL expectations, but fear ECNL-R reality.
NPL team you know you can play in college (mix of D1 and D3), and you constantly remind everyone that good players live here too
anything lower and you want to stay sharp for HS and have very grounded expectations for college

Perhaps you missed this post, which clearly shows where you went wrong:

NEFC: Alumni - NEFC
STARS: Alumni/Commitments (starsofma.org)
SSS: focus on Individual standouts Player Highlights - South Shore Select Soccer (selectma.com)
Scorps: I couldn't find it

At the end of the day, it's not ECNL vs GA. It's who makes champions league (either league) vs who doesn't.

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I don't understand above post, especially since I was OP of the two posts you included.
What was the point that I perhaps missed?

re: Champions League - not sure I understand that point either, From a recruiting standpoint the "end of the day" is fall of Jr year, and the Champions League battles that occur for two more seasons are nice but irrelevant to the commitment outcome.
Coaches are making decisions on players based on many factors (athletics, academics, fit). The end result of their team may offer some reassurance but is of little importance to the college coach.

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The point missed is that arguing ECNL vs GA is rather stupid.

If you're not going to the top showcases for either league, then there isn't much point. If you are going, then it doesn't matter what badge you have on your sleeve.

So for example, a bottom feeder ECNL team bragging that they're better than a champion league GA team is absurd.

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The point missed is that arguing ECNL vs GA is rather stupid.

If you're not going to the top showcases for either league, then there isn't much point. If you are going, then it doesn't matter what badge you have on your sleeve.

So for example, a bottom feeder ECNL team bragging that they're better than a champion league GA team is absurd.

Agree that there is overlap and arguing that a bottom table ECNL team is better than top table GAL team is dumb.
For ECNL at least all teams are eligible to attend the National Events (at least for ECNL) during the prime recruiting years. Most New England Teams tend to go to FL in Jan, AZ in Apr, and NJ in May.
The Champion's League is a qualification status for the bracket in the June post season event, but every recruiting age team still goes to the post-season.
Coaches know their fishing holes. NE coaches are going to watch CFC, and Stars at the National Events regardless of bracket

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The point missed is that arguing ECNL vs GA is rather stupid.

If you're not going to the top showcases for either league, then there isn't much point. If you are going, then it doesn't matter what badge you have on your sleeve.

So for example, a bottom feeder ECNL team bragging that they're better than a champion league GA team is absurd.

You’re talking about 2 different things. One “team” being “better” than another has no bearing on either team’s college placements. Of course a stronger team overall will likely have more high quality players, but recruiting is a very individual experience for players. What schools are YOU targeting and are those coaches coming to see YOU play at showcases. For ECNL, high school aged teams do a minimum of 3 league showcases outside of the playoffs (not sure the number for GA). College coaches could care less which teams win and which teams lose. They want to see how the kids in their list perform in various situations.

When it comes to Champions League and national championships—the club, kids and parents certainly care. College coaches could care less. They are only interested in INDIVIDUALS, not teams.

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How in the world does a thread topic about the Stars having 50 teams in each age group turn into a discussion about college?

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How in the world does a thread topic about the Stars having 50 teams in each age group turn into a discussion about college?

First time on TS?

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First time on TS?

*James Franco in a noose*

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First time on TS?

Does every thread end up being a discussion about college commits?

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How in the world does a thread topic about the Stars having 50 teams in each age group turn into a discussion about college?

P: Too many Teams
R: Not really there is demand
P: No, they are fleecing customers
R: Not really, people get the soccer pyramid
P: No they really don't
R: Why not, it's not like it's a secret
P: Because they all want college
R: But it's not realistic, unless you are ECNL, GAL, or one notch below (but really ECNL)
P: No! GAL is just as good
R: not according to commitment history

Thats how we got here

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Does every thread end up being a discussion about college commits?

Yes, more often than not. Nothing wrong with it because that's what matters the most, everything else is secondary.