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    My daughter did. Without being asked to attend. But don't let that ruin your fantasy.

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      Sure she did.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        My daughter did. Without being asked to attend. But don't let that ruin your fantasy.
        Then she wasn't an "unknown."

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          You've got to be kidding. What good high reputation club (ECNL or Not) doesn't require all players to show up at tryouts out of respect for the process and fairness. Disgusting. Tryouts are already tough enough, much less not make it a true fair tryout.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You've got to be kidding. What good high reputation club (ECNL or Not) doesn't require all players to show up at tryouts out of respect for the process and fairness. Disgusting. Tryouts are already tough enough, much less not make it a true fair tryout.
            did any players even bother to show up for tryouts for next year's U17 scorpion ECNL team? My guess is that only about 8 or 9 existing players are even coming back.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You've got to be kidding. What good high reputation club (ECNL or Not) doesn't require all players to show up at tryouts out of respect for the process and fairness. Disgusting. Tryouts are already tough enough, much less not make it a true fair tryout.
              Typically those that know they are returning have to show up for at least one tryout.

              Of course if any of the returning players are cut, then you know what posters would be saying.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                did any players even bother to show up for tryouts for next year's U17 scorpion ECNL team? My guess is that only about 8 or 9 existing players are even coming back.
                Where were all the others?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You've got to be kidding. What good high reputation club (ECNL or Not) doesn't require all players to show up at tryouts out of respect for the process and fairness. Disgusting. Tryouts are already tough enough, much less not make it a true fair tryout.
                  If a player isn't required to go to tryouts, they aren't required to go to tryouts. Everyone should know where they stand with the team going into them anyways. The bigger issue is whether they care enough about what happens next year to show up and see who will be joining them.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You've got to be kidding. What good high reputation club (ECNL or Not) doesn't require all players to show up at tryouts out of respect for the process and fairness. Disgusting. Tryouts are already tough enough, much less not make it a true fair tryout.
                    What exactly is a fair tryout?

                    To me a fair tryout is one where the 18 players are selected that when brought together and trained will make the best team. Notice I didn't say the best 18 players at tryouts, I didn't say the best 18 athletes. It should be the 18 players when combined with the roles they are expected to play and the progress they are expected to make will have the best chance of success.

                    There is nothing that a coach is going to see of an existing player in a 1 hour tryout that they don't already know about a player from coaching them all year.

                    DYOR

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      did any players even bother to show up for tryouts for next year's U17 scorpion ECNL team? My guess is that only about 8 or 9 existing players are even coming back.
                      scorps tryouts were very well attended. JM was pleased with what he has to work with for next year's U17s.

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                        The issue for me isn't that current players don't attend. The issue is that new players don't even try because they know they can't get on an ECNL roster that way. Second team kids are already known entities, despite performance and/or improvement and will never be given a spot so tryouts are just discouraging to them. And outside players looking to get in will never even try to do it simply through a tryout because they know the process. Contact the coach, get seen privately, see if you have what it takes and get your offer. ECNL rosters don't change all that much and the one or two adds that may happen in a year are not picks from tryouts.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What exactly is a fair tryout?

                          To me a fair tryout is one where the 18 players are selected that when brought together and trained will make the best team. Notice I didn't say the best 18 players at tryouts, I didn't say the best 18 athletes. It should be the 18 players when combined with the roles they are expected to play and the progress they are expected to make will have the best chance of success.

                          There is nothing that a coach is going to see of an existing player in a 1 hour tryout that they don't already know about a player from coaching them all year.

                          DYOR
                          DYOR you need to DYOR.

                          How do you know that the new players are good enough to make the team if you don't have your best going against them?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            The issue for me isn't that current players don't attend. The issue is that new players don't even try because they know they can't get on an ECNL roster that way. Second team kids are already known entities, despite performance and/or improvement and will never be given a spot so tryouts are just discouraging to them. And outside players looking to get in will never even try to do it simply through a tryout because they know the process. Contact the coach, get seen privately, see if you have what it takes and get your offer. ECNL rosters don't change all that much and the one or two adds that may happen in a year are not picks from tryouts.
                            This is fact for the FC Stars and probably the Scorpioins also. Players that are at the tryout sessions have already been identified and contacted by the coaching staff, and in most cases have already been practicing with the teams that they hope to play for, maybe even having participated as a guest player in a few games. Not to say a player could not just show up at tryouts and get a roster spot, but that is the least likely scenario.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This is fact for the FC Stars and probably the Scorpioins also. Players that are at the tryout sessions have already been identified and contacted by the coaching staff, and in most cases have already been practicing with the teams that they hope to play for, maybe even having participated as a guest player in a few games. Not to say a player could not just show up at tryouts and get a roster spot, but that is the least likely scenario.
                              Guest players? Really? How do they get passcards? (Methinks someone who deosn't really know is writing this)

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                DYOR you need to DYOR.

                                How do you know that the new players are good enough to make the team if you don't have your best going against them?
                                Let's see you can see them play in ECLN, ODP, R1PL, state cup or any number of matches at Lancaster. ECLN level talent is easy to ID.

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