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Rematch?
I like revs in both games

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Please give us some info as to why you fancy the Revs.

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I am a coach. And yes, I was able to make it to both venues. We do typically travel within a given day when we are interested in particular players.

College coach or Maple coach?

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I am a coach. And yes, I was able to make it to both venues. We do typically travel within a given day when we are interested in particular players.

Now here is where this becomes kind of comical. Just what College do you represent, because it was pretty evident what coaches were there?

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please give us some info as to why you fancy the revs.

18's i like the revs because i thought they carried more of the play in the first game. They had better attack than the bolts. Better passing and overall more skilled. Bolts defence was big and strong.
16's bolts seemed to be more steady and balanced but revs had again more skill. Bolts goalie will be out from red card. Revs have strong mf coming back. And some of there better players didnt play well the first game

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i only saw the 16's game.... Was not impressed with the revs team overall but i was told that they are much younger the fc bolts.

I was wondering whether this was correct. Since all the necessary data are available on the DAP website, I decided to figure it out.

Average birthdate of the Bolts' starters in that game: 8/15/95. They started nine 95s and two 96s.

Average birthdate of the Revs' starters in that game: 12/12/95. They started five 95s, four 96s and two 97s.

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18's i like the revs because i thought they carried more of the play in the first game. They had better attack than the bolts. Better passing and overall more skilled. Bolts defence was big and strong.
16's bolts seemed to be more steady and balanced but revs had again more skill. Bolts goalie will be out from red card. Revs have strong mf coming back. And some of there better players didnt play well the first game

I was wondering whether this was correct. Since all the necessary data are available on the DAP website, I decided to figure it out.

Average birthdate of the Bolts' starters in that game: 8/15/95. They started nine 95s and two 96s.

Average birthdate of the Revs' starters in that game: 12/12/95. They started five 95s, four 96s and two 97s.

Why is this reminiscent of Blazer parents making excuses for why the outcome did not go the way they thought it should.

Your player tally for the U16 game will mean more next year when the 1995 players move on. For now your tally is just a tally. Whether the Revs put their best team out there or not is their own doing. Bottom line is that the game was a 2-2 tie.

The Revs U18 lost 1-0. This is a fact. There are no miracles that can undo it. The game was not very exciting. The U16 game seemed to be more skillful.

If what these two posters indicate is true i.e. that the Revolution teams possess more skill, then the coaching must not be very good, or the Bolts coaching is very good.

We will see what happens this coming weekend.

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Having watched the Revs DAP teams play, I have to say that what I have seen is less than I expected. Don't get me wrong, they are very good teams but they should be GREAT teams. They have the pick of the best players in the New England region and should be far superior to all other teams in the area. At this point in the season, I would not put them above the Bolts DAP teams, and only marginally above the Oakwood and Seacoast DAP teams.

I question the recruiting/talent evaluation. Not sure how they select players for their teams, but they did not select all of the best players in the region. IMHO, there are some players on the Bolts, Oakwood and Seacoast teams that are better than some of the players on the Revs. I am not familiar with the MAPLE/NEP/Region 1 teams in this age group, but I am sure there are some very talented players on these teams as well.

Perhaps having a pre-academy team will help in future years by allowing a place for the younger aged players to play and develop. For the last few seasons, the Revs U16 teams have had many younger players, some of whom were not ready to compete at the DAP level. The Bolts, Oakwood and Seacoast cannot be excited about the Revs having a pre-academy team. They are likely to lose more players to the Revs in the coming years, as the Revs staff is exposed to these players in the pre-academy league.

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I was wondering whether this was correct. Since all the necessary data are available on the DAP website, I decided to figure it out.

Average birthdate of the Bolts' starters in that game: 8/15/95. They started nine 95s and two 96s.

Average birthdate of the Revs' starters in that game: 12/12/95. They started five 95s, four 96s and two 97s.

First, the Bolts, on their roster (including DP and FT) have 3 1997 players.

Meaning and significance aside.......do you really think that AK #9 on the Revs is really (in real life) a 1997 baby???

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First, the Bolts, on their roster (including DP and FT) have 3 1997 players.

Meaning and significance aside.......do you really think that AK #9 on the Revs is really (in real life) a 1997 baby???

I don't know anything about either team, but #9 on the Revs was by far the best player on the field last weekend. The Revs left back and the big Bolts forward were also very good, while the 2-3 players my son told me to watch did not impress.

Overall I thought the teams were dead even - surprising given that the (free) Revs should have first pick among the local players. I wish I could see the rematch next week.

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Having watched the Revs DAP teams play, I have to say that what I have seen is less than I expected. Don't get me wrong, they are very good teams but they should be GREAT teams. They have the pick of the best players in the New England region and should be far superior to all other teams in the area. At this point in the season, I would not put them above the Bolts DAP teams, and only marginally above the Oakwood and Seacoast DAP teams.

I question the recruiting/talent evaluation. Not sure how they select players for their teams, but they did not select all of the best players in the region. IMHO, there are some players on the Bolts, Oakwood and Seacoast teams that are better than some of the players on the Revs. I am not familiar with the MAPLE/NEP/Region 1 teams in this age group, but I am sure there are some very talented players on these teams as well.

Perhaps having a pre-academy team will help in future years by allowing a place for the younger aged players to play and develop. For the last few seasons, the Revs U16 teams have had many younger players, some of whom were not ready to compete at the DAP level. The Bolts, Oakwood and Seacoast cannot be excited about the Revs having a pre-academy team. They are likely to lose more players to the Revs in the coming years, as the Revs staff is exposed to these players in the pre-academy league.

Other than being free and selecting pre-hyped players who are average at best, the Rev's have proved nothing to date to indicate they are the premier club in NE. And they have no edge over the Bolts. Also, don't bet the ranch on future Bolt players defecting to the rev's. There have been some well profiled examples of how this has gone very wrong the in the past two years, with bolts players "bolting" for the free rev's kit and then seeing no playing time. You get what you pay for..

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Other than being free and selecting pre-hyped players who are average at best, the Rev's have proved nothing to date to indicate they are the premier club in NE. And they have no edge over the Bolts. Also, don't bet the ranch on future Bolt players defecting to the rev's. There have been some well profiled examples of how this has gone very wrong the in the past two years, with bolts players "bolting" for the free rev's kit and then seeing no playing time. You get what you pay for..

I think you are underestimating the revs and bolts players by saying they are average at best. Yes, there are some average players on both teams, but overall, both teams are very good. The point is that the Revs should be great, but they are not.

I would gladly bet the ranch on future bolts players leaving for the Revs. I cannot imagine a player not wanting to wear the rev's kit if they are selected. And I cannot imagine a parent giving up a free ride and wanting to spend $5k for their kid to stay with the Bolts. This is not a knock against the Bolts, it's just common sense. Actually, the only scenario I can see a player wanting to stay with the Bolts is if they have been recruited by BA to play soccer for NU.

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First, the Bolts, on their roster (including DP and FT) have 3 1997 players.

And how is that relevant? They didn't play. The poster to whom I was responding was talking about last weekend's game, not the season in general. In that case, only the players who played actually played are relevant.

Meaning and significance aside.......do you really think that AK #9 on the Revs is really (in real life) a 1997 baby???

I figured someone would say that. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Neither you or I nor anyone else posting here knows. That's why I included the number of 95s, 96s and 97s, in addition to the average age.

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I think you are underestimating the revs and bolts players by saying they are average at best. Yes, there are some average players on both teams, but overall, both teams are very good. The point is that the Revs should be great, but they are not.

I would gladly bet the ranch on future bolts players leaving for the Revs. I cannot imagine a player not wanting to wear the rev's kit if they are selected. And I cannot imagine a parent giving up a free ride and wanting to spend $5k for their kid to stay with the Bolts. This is not a knock against the Bolts, it's just common sense. Actually, the only scenario I can see a player wanting to stay with the Bolts is if they have been recruited by BA to play soccer for NU.

Really, you can't imagine it? Not everyone makes all of their decisions strictly based on price. Maybe they like the Bolts better, or maybe they just don't want to drive to Foxboro.

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Your player tally for the U16 game will mean more next year when the 1995 players move on.

Huh? How will the average age of the players in a game played this year have any relevance next year?

For now your tally is just a tally. Whether the Revs put their best team out there or not is their own doing. Bottom line is that the game was a 2-2 tie.

The claim was made that the Revs were younger. I have shown that, for this game at least that claim is correct. Don't you agree that at some level, difference in average team age is relevant to assessing the outcome of a game? Whether there is a significant difference in these teams' ages is a separate question.