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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Could have.....but did not....again.
    How many 'could haves' are you allowed in a season?

    The bottom line is that the Bolts teams are not winning too much anymore.
    They are mediocre in the massachusetts leagues and mediocre in the non-Mass leagues.

    Those who say it is not about winning.......are not winning.
    It might be all about development, but if you are successfully developing....then you will win.

    The Bolts need more experience coming on this site stating that they 'could have lost'...but won instead.
    Ah, this is so stupid.

    It is a mathematical fact that about half the teams in any league will lose more games than they win. Which means that, no matter how what the level of the league, people like you will claim that a team is "mediocre" because it lost half its games, when in fact it doesn't prove a thing without taking the quality of the competition into account.

    Fact is, right now the Bolts DA teams are 5-6-3 and 6-4-4. They are right around .500, which is consistent with how they've done over the years. Nothing to be ashamed of at all.

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      #62
      I was at the game with no dog in the race. The level of play was far greater than any U16 game I have seen non DAP. I have a young son and if he shows the ability i would certainly have him play this.
      The Red Bulls are better in both age groups. But they are fully funded and have a much greater pool to pick from.
      The Bolts have nothing to be ashamed of. They were in the 2nd game and could have at least drawed.
      I can't wait for the REVS to play the Bolts

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Ah, this is so stupid.

        It is a mathematical fact that about half the teams in any league will lose more games than they win. Which means that, no matter how what the level of the league, people like you will claim that a team is "mediocre" because it lost half its games, when in fact it doesn't prove a thing without taking the quality of the competition into account.

        Fact is, right now the Bolts DA teams are 5-6-3 and 6-4-4. They are right around .500, which is consistent with how they've done over the years. Nothing to be ashamed of at all.

        Like I said....those who are not winning, say that winning is not important. While I don't doubt that the Academy leagues are not tough, I do see that the Bolts are average in these leagues.....however, if I were a Bolts administrator, I would be more concerned with how mediocre the club does in the Non DAP i.e. Massachusetts leagues......if they really want to focus on the club as a whole and not just the DAP.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Ah, this is so stupid.

          It is a mathematical fact that about half the teams in any league will lose more games than they win...
          Oh, the irony. Nice try, but this is not a 'mathematical fact' at all - your logic is flawed.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Ah, this is so stupid.

            It is a mathematical fact that about half the teams in any league will lose more games than they win. Which means that, no matter how what the level of the league, people like you will claim that a team is "mediocre" because it lost half its games, when in fact it doesn't prove a thing without taking the quality of the competition into account.

            Fact is, right now the Bolts DA teams are 5-6-3 and 6-4-4. They are right around .500, which is consistent with how they've done over the years. Nothing to be ashamed of at all.

            The only 'fact' is that the Bolts are not dominating any league they are playing in. You can twist around the numbers all you want, but parents may not want to pay the cash, invest the time, and spend the energy if they don't think they are getting a worthwhile product. While you can try to redirect the focus on 'development', most would wonder how good the development is, if they don't win.

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              #66
              This post is so laughable. You obviously don't care about the game, just winning. Can't you just play a video game at some level (beginner) so that you get your kicks? Did you ever watch a good game where your team lost and still appreciate the skill and effort of both teams? People posting your type of nonsense make this site stupid.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                This post is so laughable. You obviously don't care about the game, just winning. Can't you just play a video game at some level (beginner) so that you get your kicks? Did you ever watch a good game where your team lost and still appreciate the skill and effort of both teams? People posting your type of nonsense make this site stupid.
                Absolutely right scores should not be posted at all. nice comments about the team would be great,i.e. competitive match, nicely lined up bags on the sidelines, neat clean uniforms, great positive coaching from sidelines, everyone one played equally....I am sure that is what USSF is looking for....the reason they don't want kids to play HS.

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                  #68
                  Some clubs like Seacoast and South-central deserve comment because the score and stats indicate they're usually not competitive in the game. I guarantee you that as far as USSF is concerned, and anyone who enjoys the game, the win loss result of a competitive game is not important

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                    #69
                    May have missed a post but did they play games today and if so how did the teams do?
                    12:30 games may just be finishing now but how about 10 am games? Thanks

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This post is so laughable. You obviously don't care about the game, just winning. Can't you just play a video game at some level (beginner) so that you get your kicks? Did you ever watch a good game where your team lost and still appreciate the skill and effort of both teams? People posting your type of nonsense make this site stupid.
                      I care very much about 'the game'. I care very much about playing 'the game' well and hard. I am the type that wants to look back at something and feel that a great effort was made. I also like to play against tough competition. I like to do all these things.........and also win. While I have played with these things and have lost, I far prefer to win. When I don't win, I look back to see what I could have done better.......so that I might win the next time.

                      The idea that winning is not important is a reflection of how our politically correct society is mistakenly moving toward, seemingly with the hope that the boys won't feel bad and develop psychopathology. When your child looks at colleges and/or jobs in the future will it be enough to list the following:

                      I played hard
                      I concentrated
                      It was a great game
                      I could have won
                      We almost pulled that game out.
                      .......but I still lost.

                      I strongly believe that at team that develops its players and the team well will not have to come on to any forum and say 'could have won'. They will win more than they lose.

                      It this is wrong then I guess I am just too much of an ass.

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                        #71
                        Well, just a point for you to see how misguided your thinking is - do you really think those Bolts kids weren't trying hard as hell to win, when they lost 2:1 to RB. They weren't playing 'politically correct' soccer - everybody wins. But as a bystander, you insist all that matters is the score line. Don't you appreciate the actual game or is it all stats to you?

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                          #72
                          While I have played with these things and have lost, I far prefer to win. When I don't win, I look back to see what I could have done better.......so that I might win the next time.

                          I strongly believe that at team that develops its players and the team well will not have to come on to any forum and say 'could have won'. They will win more than they lose.



                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Well, just a point for you to see how misguided your thinking is - do you really think those Bolts kids weren't trying hard as hell to win, when they lost 2:1 to RB. They weren't playing 'politically correct' soccer - everybody wins. But as a bystander, you insist all that matters is the score line. Don't you appreciate the actual game or is it all stats to you?
                          Obviously in your anger and sensitivity, you didn't really read what I wrote. See above and read it slowly. What I don't like is how parents....coaches....society....has decided that it is better to make excuses why you did not win as opposed to reflecting on it, recognizing mistakes (yes 'mistakes) that were made, and correcting them so that you would have a better chance to win the next time. I do, in fact, recognize that you won't win every game, however, I don't think that losing should be celebrated. As you say, and I agree, the play of the game can be celebrated, and, certainly more so when you win.

                          As for the stats.......I think even you can agree that winning does reflect some type of success. On the extreme, if you lose more games than you win, I don't think that this would reflect a successful season for the more competitive teams. If this is the case, I would hope that the club/coach would reflect on it and figure out how to do it better.

                          The phrase 'could have won' can only be used so many times.

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                            #73
                            Bolts lost both to PDA today. PDA 16's are ranked #3 in the country.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              While I have played with these things and have lost, I far prefer to win. When I don't win, I look back to see what I could have done better.......so that I might win the next time.

                              I strongly believe that at team that develops its players and the team well will not have to come on to any forum and say 'could have won'. They will win more than they lose.





                              Obviously in your anger and sensitivity, you didn't really read what I wrote. See above and read it slowly. What I don't like is how parents....coaches....society....has decided that it is better to make excuses why you did not win as opposed to reflecting on it, recognizing mistakes (yes 'mistakes) that were made, and correcting them so that you would have a better chance to win the next time. I do, in fact, recognize that you won't win every game, however, I don't think that losing should be celebrated. As you say, and I agree, the play of the game can be celebrated, and, certainly more so when you win.

                              As for the stats.......I think even you can agree that winning does reflect some type of success. On the extreme, if you lose more games than you win, I don't think that this would reflect a successful season for the more competitive teams. If this is the case, I would hope that the club/coach would reflect on it and figure out how to do it better.

                              The phrase 'could have won' can only be used so many times.
                              I really can't figure out why you don't think the losing team isn't sitting there after the game hearing about their mistakes. In fact, the winning team is hearing about the same thing. It's like you've never played the sport or any sport for that matter - like you have no clue how a team operates. Sure, a lot of coaches will say 'we could have won', because its true, but none, even when they do win, wlil fail to point out the weaknesses and mistakes of a game.. NADA, none, zero.. why not get close to a team after a game and listen?.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The only 'fact' is that the Bolts are not dominating any league they are playing in. You can twist around the numbers all you want, but parents may not want to pay the cash, invest the time, and spend the energy if they don't think they are getting a worthwhile product. While you can try to redirect the focus on 'development', most would wonder how good the development is, if they don't win.
                                New to Bolts this fall. I like the level of play for my kid to learn from. Coach is great, works well with the team, pushes hard and knows when to back off. I don't mind the cost, time, because I see a difference in my kids play.

                                What I don't understand is the play the Bolts get on TS. The Bolts have an interest in DAP, and they are doing what they see to keep their level of play up. I hope someday my kid makes Pre-Dap, then Dap. That is where the comp is, and the development is. Just my opinion. Happy to be with the Bolts.

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