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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI wouldn't be too cocky just yet...I'll put my money on C-C.
And on the girls side (where it matters for soccer!) EMass won D1 & D3.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm a CMass person who was rooting for North. Giving the goalie a red card might effect Ludlow in the next game but not yours. North lost.
I congratulate Ludlow on their Championship win, but I hate seeing a game determined by poor officiating and that seems to be the case in the semi finals.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI wonder if EMass D3 teams seem to win more because the enrollment of the D3 schools in EMass seems to be much bigger than the enrollment of the D3 schools in CMass and WMass. Where a D1 team (like Ludlow) can still pull from a large student pool, when you have less than 200 boys (or girls), it's much harder to field a great team. http://www.miaa.net/gen/miaa_generat...erboys0912.pdf
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou can't make decisions as an official about the next game, only about the game you are officiating. If the GK deserved a red, he should have gotten it. With 2 minutes left and no starting GK in net, a good North team may have tied it and who knows where things would have gone from there.
I congratulate Ludlow on their Championship win, but I hate seeing a game determined by poor officiating and that seems to be the case in the semi finals.
Hence the big deal on rescinding the cards. A least one article said the whistle blew seconds after the goalie incident. Was there 2 minutes left or was the clock just sitting on 2 like it always does?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMIAA Rule 77.2.7 A player receiving a red card will be suspended for the next two games....
Hence the big deal on rescinding the cards. A least one article said the whistle blew seconds after the goalie incident. Was there 2 minutes left or was the clock just sitting on 2 like it always does?
It was obvious to the casual observer that the center referee wanted Ludlow to win the game and did everything in his power to make that happen. Including “rescinding” two Ludlow red cards (fighting) after consulting with the Ludlow coach and Ludlow AD on the sidelines after the game. What is that all about? Since when have you ever seen a referee rescind a red card (for fighting) on the sidelines after a game? The correct answer is never. There is an MIAA appeals process for these matters and they all circumvented that process. If you spend any time watching youth & HS soccer games, you know and come expect these outcomes for Ludlow soccer. So much for the rule book. Sad, very sad
Sorry Ludlow. While I'm glad you won, it really sux if red cards were given for the fight, as they should, and then taken back. Not a good message for adults to be giving adolesents.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI wouldn't be too cocky just yet...I'll put my money on C-C.
And on the girls side (where it matters for soccer!) EMass won D1 & D3.
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Not only did GD win, but the first half was all GD.
Congrats to both for making it to the finals. The clearly better team won, but both were so skilled and fun to watch. Great soccer and a great, clean game.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHope you didn't put too much money down.... :)
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Not only did GD win, but the first half was all GD.
Congrats to both for making it to the finals. The clearly better team won, but both were so skilled and fun to watch. Great soccer and a great, clean game.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFrom Mass Live:
It was obvious to the casual observer that the center referee wanted Ludlow to win the game and did everything in his power to make that happen. Including “rescinding” two Ludlow red cards (fighting) after consulting with the Ludlow coach and Ludlow AD on the sidelines after the game. What is that all about? Since when have you ever seen a referee rescind a red card (for fighting) on the sidelines after a game? The correct answer is never. There is an MIAA appeals process for these matters and they all circumvented that process. If you spend any time watching youth & HS soccer games, you know and come expect these outcomes for Ludlow soccer. So much for the rule book. Sad, very sad
Sorry Ludlow. While I'm glad you won, it really sux if red cards were given for the fight, as they should, and then taken back. Not a good message for adults to be giving adolesents.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostObviously a post from a Ludlow hater or Masco/WN fan. Having been at the game it was obvious that the refs gave the majority of the calls to WN so Im not sure how that helps Ludlow win. They called the game with a minute left due to the fact that they lost control of it and wanted to avoid a bad scene which ended up happening anyway. All the Ludlow haters on this board are classic. So sorry we won again and have been a MA State power for so long. Must be hard for all the greater Boston teams with a much larger talent pool to lose each year to a bunch of "hicks" from W. Mass. Ludlow won again, get over it. You people sound like all those NFL fans who still think the Patriots are cheaters and get all the calls.
I am not a fan of any of these teams. More so, I am from the Western part of the state and have played against Ludlow a number of teams with some success....being a tie here and there. However, the Red Card rule has a number of caveats to it. You only need to go to the MIAA website to see them. The first few seem to be of particular relevance. There do not seem to be any exceptions regarding tournament play. Therefore, a rule is a rule.
77.2.4 Any player who receives a yellow card shall be replaced and shall not re-enter the contest until the next opportunity for substitution occurs.
77.2.5 A player committing a second yellow card infraction in the same contest receives a red card. There are no exceptions.
77.2.6 Any player who receives a red card is ejected from the contest and shall be suspended from further participation for the next two contests; if a player receives a second red card within the same season, the player is suspended from further participation in that contest and the next two contests.
77.2.7 The receipt of two red cards for fighting or for flagrant unsportsmanlike behavior in the same season will result in a one-year suspension (from the date of the second offense) in all Fall sports.
77.2.8 Any team whose players/coaches receive collectively a total of more than four red cards during the regular season shall not qualify for the MIAA tournament. (see page 96 for appeal process).
77.2.9 After a combination of five red cards, subsequent violations will result in a team forfeiture of the next MIAA contest. These penalties will carry over to the next season should the violation occur in the final contest of the season.
If, in fact, a player received a red card, that player should have missed the next two contests. This is regardless of the reason for the red card. If players from Ludlow received red cards during the semifinal match, then those player (s) should have missed the final match.
The only friendly thing that officials do for 'red cards' occurs when it is in the face of a second yellow card. While that particular player must leave the game (and miss the next two games), the team does not necessarily have to play a man down. This was the case during the Needham/GNBV South sectional final.
Sorry....Ludlow.....but based on the state rules, you don't have any solid ground to stand on.
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To poster #79 & #81 -- from the MIAA home page, select "Alignments" under the Quick Links heading - right hand side of the page. Then under the heading "Fall Sports" - top left. Hope that helps.
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Maybe after a thorough investigation Ludlow can be stripped of the state title and then Brookline can be properly crowned.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI am not a fan of any of these teams. More so, I am from the Western part of the state and have played against Ludlow a number of teams with some success....being a tie here and there. However, the Red Card rule has a number of caveats to it. You only need to go to the MIAA website to see them. The first few seem to be of particular relevance. There do not seem to be any exceptions regarding tournament play. Therefore, a rule is a rule.
77.2.4 Any player who receives a yellow card shall be replaced and shall not re-enter the contest until the next opportunity for substitution occurs.
77.2.5 A player committing a second yellow card infraction in the same contest receives a red card. There are no exceptions.
77.2.6 Any player who receives a red card is ejected from the contest and shall be suspended from further participation for the next two contests; if a player receives a second red card within the same season, the player is suspended from further participation in that contest and the next two contests.
77.2.7 The receipt of two red cards for fighting or for flagrant unsportsmanlike behavior in the same season will result in a one-year suspension (from the date of the second offense) in all Fall sports.
77.2.8 Any team whose players/coaches receive collectively a total of more than four red cards during the regular season shall not qualify for the MIAA tournament. (see page 96 for appeal process).
77.2.9 After a combination of five red cards, subsequent violations will result in a team forfeiture of the next MIAA contest. These penalties will carry over to the next season should the violation occur in the final contest of the season.
If, in fact, a player received a red card, that player should have missed the next two contests. This is regardless of the reason for the red card. If players from Ludlow received red cards during the semifinal match, then those player (s) should have missed the final match.
The only friendly thing that officials do for 'red cards' occurs when it is in the face of a second yellow card. While that particular player must leave the game (and miss the next two games), the team does not necessarily have to play a man down. This was the case during the Needham/GNBV South sectional final.
Sorry....Ludlow.....but based on the state rules, you don't have any solid ground to stand on.
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