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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    it would be great if everyone could write well. but if you follow what is happening with our public education system they will tell you that is a problem in this country. it is part of the reason we have standards testing. regardless of spelling the poster was able to convey their meaning. that is all that matters. what the other poster responded with speaks volumes about their personality and their ability to formulate ideas. if spelling is all they can see then you can imagine that they have a pretty narrow view of the world.
    Spelling isn't all I care about. I also care about grammer and punctuation.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Spelling isn't all I care about. I also care about grammer and punctuation.
      grammer???? LOL

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        grammer???? LOL
        It's Grammah here on the eastern side of the state.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          it would be great if everyone could write well. but if you follow what is happening with our public education system they will tell you that is a problem in this country. it is part of the reason we have standards testing. regardless of spelling the poster was able to convey their meaning. that is all that matters. what the other poster responded with speaks volumes about their personality and their ability to formulate ideas. if spelling is all they can see then you can imagine that they have a pretty narrow view of the world.
          I rest my case......

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            What shocked me most on this thread was the fact and yes I think most of the u14g dubious and mean spirited posts are coming from Stars West parents was that an actual West parent apologized for one of their parents behavior and said there was no controlling her. Excuse me it is the responsibility of the Coach and Club and team manager to control an inappropriate, out of control parent period. They are warned and then they are asked to leave the TEAM if they fail to change behavior. No excuses. The team manager should be sitting next to this nut. If she is the team manager she goes- poor example set for the team and club.

            My daughters coach would have kicked her from the team with one heckle. Mom and daughter would be gone. Maybe Mom needs to know there are concequences to her behavior other than an after the fact apol.
            Shameful to all involved and esp. team parents who think they are helpless to a bully. Sounds like HS all over again and being played out in front of your daughters.

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              Typical Stars response. "Off with their heads. We have plenty more where she came from." This mom may have been a total jerk that day but why is it necessary to send the kid packing? I laugh when I listen to Stars parents talk about these sorts of issues because the club actually does manage the parents with threats like this. They will send you and your child packing if they deem you to be a problem. Most of the parents end up being terrified that big brother will over hear them say something. You can't even talk to a coach never mind express an opinion in that club. That is unless you make the national team. Then you can so or do what ever the heck you want.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Typical Stars response. "Off with their heads. We have plenty more where she came from." This mom may have been a total jerk that day but why is it necessary to send the kid packing? I laugh when I listen to Stars parents talk about these sorts of issues because the club actually does manage the parents with threats like this. They will send you and your child packing if they deem you to be a problem. Most of the parents end up being terrified that big brother will over hear them say something. You can't even talk to a coach never mind express an opinion in that club. That is unless you make the national team. Then you can so or do what ever the heck you want.
                You're right, the team should talk with the offending mother and then talk to her again next week and keep talking to her about her behaviour all year.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  What shocked me most on this thread was the fact and yes I think most of the u14g dubious and mean spirited posts are coming from Stars West parents was that an actual West parent apologized for one of their parents behavior and said there was no controlling her. Excuse me it is the responsibility of the Coach and Club and team manager to control an inappropriate, out of control parent period. They are warned and then they are asked to leave the TEAM if they fail to change behavior. No excuses. The team manager should be sitting next to this nut. If she is the team manager she goes- poor example set for the team and club.

                  My daughters coach would have kicked her from the team with one heckle. Mom and daughter would be gone. Maybe Mom needs to know there are concequences to her behavior other than an after the fact apol.
                  Shameful to all involved and esp. team parents who think they are helpless to a bully. Sounds like HS all over again and being played out in front of your daughters.

                  Funny but a Stars mother suggested to one of our parents they could settle something in the parking lot. Class organization.

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                    I was at Jefferson Cup a few yrs. ago and a parent on the opp. team was hooting and a hollering negatively at our girls as individuals. Heard their TM come up to her and remind her of the code of conduct she had signed or else the coach would be notified. Thought it was well handled and effective. Consequences obviously.

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                      West west west west always all about west. Sounds like a huge lack of leadership from both coach and parents.

                      I vote kick them out.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You're right, the team should talk with the offending mother and then talk to her again next week and keep talking to her about her behaviour all year.
                        In our club, the parents aren't seen as the enemy. Our coach will address the isssues and talk to a problem parent till he is blue in the face. The thing is with a parent is like that they normally ruin the player in the car or at the kitchen table and the kid ends up getting cut when they fail to keep pace. Same result different approach. For the money we all pay, we should expect more than a my way or the highway, I don't talk to anyone, approach.

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                          First you say
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          In our club, the parents aren't seen as the enemy.
                          Then you say
                          The thing is with a parent is like that they normally ruin the player in the car or at the kitchen table and the kid ends up getting cut when they fail to keep pace.
                          Please pick one, you can't have it both ways.

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                            what don't you understand about "same result, different approach"?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              what don't you understand about "same result, different approach"?
                              I don't understand the part about how you say the parents aren't the enemy and then go on to illustrate how the parents are undoing all the good the coaches are doing. Makes it sound like you think the parents are the enemy.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don't understand the part about how you say the parents aren't the enemy and then go on to illustrate how the parents are undoing all the good the coaches are doing. Makes it sound like you think the parents are the enemy.
                                parents absolutely can screw things up. but not every parent does. most actually do a good job supporting what the coach is trying to do once they understand it. problem parents almost universally don't support the coach and what they do is poison their child instead. that almost always ruins the player in the long run and they end getting cut. the problem with the stars approach is they treat everyone like a problem parent. the thing is most teams only have 1-2 real problems at a time so their one size fits all approach effects more people than they need to. yes that approach does save wear and tear on the coaches nerves but what are we paying them for? dealing with parents is really not all that hard. it is just time consuming.

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