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Last year's hatchet job focused on the schools the Academy kids went to, not where the mulitudes who played ISL/Club soccer went. -
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Colin Sweeney-Revs -High Point
Jay Marchand-Bolts-Holy Cross
Devin Devoy-NE Revs-Northeastern
Oliver White-Nobles-Blazers-Harvard
Eijah Soko-Brooks-Seacoast-Dartmouth
Derrick "nana" Boateng-Bolts-BC
Pablo Espinola-BB&N-Bolts-Yale
Michael Bloom-Phillips Academy-Lafayette
Edward Gonzalez-Berkshire School-American University
Jack Blatchford- FCGB Bolts- URI
Fabio Machado-Drexel
Jack Hilger-Revs- Princeton
PA-Sandwich-UMass
Marco Addonizio-Lynnfield-FC Greater Boston-Bryant
Victor Parra-Bolts-URI
D2
AJ MacDougall-Newburyport-Seacoast-St Anselms
Nick Hoffman-Quabbin-Bentley
D3
Noah Le Gros-Phillips Academy-NEFC-Wesleyan
Eric Nesto-Milton Academy-Blazers-Emory
Ben Toulette-Milton Academy-MPS-Wesleyan
Jonathan Westling-Phillips Academy-SFV-Williams
Liam Gaziano-Rox Latin-MPS-Washington and Lee
Harry Copeland-St. Marks-MPS- St. Lawrence
Sam Hewat-Phillips Academy-Colorado College
Max Montanari-Aztecs-Babson
James Rosso-MPS Crusaders-Babson
Alex Becker-MPS-Ithaca
Chris Walker-Jacks-CC -Hobart
Josh Voto-FC Stars-Tufts
Ben Sia-FC Stars-Babson
Jack Vogel-Nobles-Blazers-Middlebury
Forest Sisk-Lincoln Sudbury-Amherst
Tyler Zon-Noles & Greenough-Swarthmore
Flavio Carvahlo-New Bedford-UMass Dart
Josh Hacunda-Bolts-Brandeis
Adrian Reifsnyder-Bolts-Wesleyan
Kenn Fryer-Bolts-Brandeis
Dan Vogel-Bolts-Colby College
Paulo Lopes-Gloucester-Winchester Sachems-St Joe's MEComment
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Sam Paul - Winchester High - Sachems FC - Saint Anselm'sComment
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So here is where the DAP argument still falls flat for me. In the list of commitments, I see one Bolts player whose name I recognize in the D3 list. Prior to going to the Bolts, he played for one of the better non-DAP clubs on a team that has consistently been in the mix in D1 Maple/State Cup/Region I since they were U14s. He is going to a school that he absolutely would have been exposed to had he never left his previous club. I'm sure he isn't the only one.
If the DAP was truly a path to D1 scholarships and/or the pros for everyone who came out of it, I'd get it. But it clearly isn't yet, and it seems to me that there is no need for Bolts/Revs/Seacoast to all have DAP teams - the talent pool isn't there. The stated point of the DAP is to produce a better quality of American player (DA Overview page on US Soccer's website says "The Development Academy is a partnership between U.S. Soccer and the top youth clubs around the country to provide the best youth players in the U.S. with an every day environment designed to produce the next generation of National Team players."). I realize it is still in its infancy and should ultimately evolve toward its goal, but there right now are far too many players on DAP teams who would be just as well served by non-DAP clubs.Comment
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Really? I thought that I read one of the posts regarding 2011 that said only about a dozen of those kids were academy players. Now I am reading that it focused on the the academy? I have to look at that list again.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Just so you 2012 folks know, next year, the 2013 crowd will whip your 2012 list out and be saying the same thing about your kids. Our kids have better schools, are better players, have better choices, better clubs...blah, blah, blah. I look at that list and see some of the kids that my child played with in the past and am impressed with the great academic choices they made, where they will also get to play.
Look at the darn list and say "Congrats, kids. Nice choices." As a parent of children who play and have played college ball, all this stuff doesn't matter when you are in college because it all starts fresh when you step on that tryout field. Nobody on the team cares where you played, the tournaments you won or the trophies you have. Phase two just started no matter how awesome you think you are.Comment
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OP for both lists here. The 2011 list is about 50% DAP all in. The 2012 list is 37% DAP. If I see a trend, it is that the DAP kids are pretty heavy in the Div 1 lists for 2010-2012. The other point I would make is that although the DAP is a pretty high %, some of the kids played elsewhere as they grew up then switched to DAP the last year or two.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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The other trend is the importance of a PG year
Another is the ISL school connection, is it academics or soccer. know a couple of kids where they are so strong that they would have gotten in without soccer.
Bolts has a strong colby connectionComment
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No body on the list going to SNHU??
has been a school that lands a lot of Revs and Bolts players in the past.
That team did well last year.
Wonder how many Bolts/Revs kids not on these lists will end up there.Comment
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In my experience, the D2's come out the latest, and are hard to find on any list. Folks here feed in the names and the list builds, as you have seen over the past several weeks.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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There is only one player going to Colby. What makes you say that?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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A couple of kids last year went there, there was a discussion regarding that on TS about that, Join the Bolts go Colby, while they parents had dreams of Harvard or a Div 1 team. Different pathway than the club suggests..Comment
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You are making that up. There was no special discussion of any kind about Colby last year on T-S. Why don't you link us to it!!! You apparently were just looking for any excuse to make some comment that is still so oddly expressed that one could only guess at what your point is.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Actually the only special references to Colby in the past 18 months were about why a kid who could get into Colby would do a PG or gap year to try and get into Williams or Amherst when Colby is an exceptional school that is plenty good enough. Any kid who gets into Colby should be thrilled.Comment
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You can look up the two kids on the colby roster, maybe it was two years ago. one kid went to nobles another went to BBN there may also be another one on the team. One parent pranced around assuring @ 14 yo that here son was going to Harvard and bolts was her way in. The point was that Bolts presented their club as a way to Div 1 (specifically Harvard years back) but it is also better way to go to good Div 2 and 3 schools. My additional point is that these kids are good students and they may have gotten into these top level Div 3 schools just on their academics and playing on their very good HS teams. Bolts may have very little to do with them getting into Div 3 schools. Knowing some of these parents (or at least how they brag) they will not qualify for financial aid and will be paying full boat (Colby likes that too). Additionally the large % of kids on bolts have $$ and those parents know that the ISL schools are path to good schools, I don't think they are going to bet on DAP 10 month program, too much risk with the history of where Bolts kids go.Comment
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According to the Globe, the All-American from CC (MO) is playing at Penn next year.Comment
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