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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Where do you get your information. Please define a professional coach??? And for a 'crap' club they seem to be giving nefc a hard time. Explain to me how a club with 'bad' coaches can develop players and teams as good as nefc with a third of the kids to choose from. Food for thought.
    Half of that Sss team is u9! Good for them. The players and coach must be doing something right. Nefc team is not bad either. Kids would probably go a lot farther with a more positive coach. The kids are a talented group.

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      #17
      Is he suspended from just the next 3 u11 games and can he coach his other age groups?

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        #18
        NEFC u11 coach classless

        My daughter plays for NEFC. I was at the game. In my opinion, which i'm sure will get chopped to shreds, here's what happened in the game. NEFC has never played against a younger team. After scoring about 30 seconds into the game, NEFC took SSS to lightly. SSS is a very good team. NEFC is a much bigger team physically. Everytime there was contact, and i'm sorry, but soccer is a contact sport, the NEFC players got called for a foul. I"m not saying all the calls weren't legit, but from the NEFC point of view, if they got within 5 yards of an SSS player, they were called for a foul. The game was great with lots of scoring chances for both teams. I think early on, NEFC was not able to put a bunch of open crossing passes into the net and instead put them over the net. NEFC coaches got frustrated. The first SSS goal was the direct result of one of these questionable foul calls. Right or wrong, the call resulted in the first goal. The problem from where i sit was that the refereee swallowed his whistle when the calls should have gone against SSS. TAke down in the box late in the game, and an obvious hands ball near the box midway thru the second half that stopped an NEFC break stand out in my mind. There were also quite a few tripping/kicking fouls aginst SSS that the ref swallowed his whistle on. The play where Nick eventually got tossed was pretty funny. The NEFC girl WAS offsides. The ref made the right call, but Nick needed to be go by that point in the game and he went. Nick went off on the ref, and was rightly tossed. NEFC was finally able to put one of those crossing passes into the net to take a 2-1 lead with about 5 minutes left. Instead of getting down, the SSS girls played as hard as they could in the last 5 minutes and were able to tie the game. What a gut-check by the SSS girls. Very impressive. After the game, the coaches went at each other. IF you're an SSS parent, the ref did a great job. If you're an NEFC parent, they did not. Either way, both teams played a great game and both teams had their chances to win. From where i sit, this is the first time i have to say that the ref did actually influence the outcome of the game. I asked my daughter after the game about Nick. She said that nobody on the team takes anything personally and she really likes playing for him. To me, Nick is an old-time coach from the days i was in school and played sports. He's young, loud, and gets into the game. Eventually he will learn to focus on the next play and not the last call. The ref has NEVER changed his call based on what a coach has to say. I'd like to have intense games like this every week. For my daughter, she loves the intensity and this is why we play club soccer.

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          #19
          The girls should also being taught good sportsmanship which includes respecting the ref no matter how questionable the calls. THey may love their coach, he may be a fantastic coach, but he should also be a good role model for the kids at ALL times during a game. We have all been at club games (and town games for that matter) where the ref makes bad calls and ends up influencing the final score. Why not wait until after the game, tell the girls how well they played and let them know that sometimes the ref doesn't make the right calls and what is most important is how the girls played--isn't u11 still a developmental age?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The girls should also being taught good sportsmanship which includes respecting the ref no matter how questionable the calls. THey may love their coach, he may be a fantastic coach, but he should also be a good role model for the kids at ALL times during a game. We have all been at club games (and town games for that matter) where the ref makes bad calls and ends up influencing the final score. Why not wait until after the game, tell the girls how well they played and let them know that sometimes the ref doesn't make the right calls and what is most important is how the girls played--isn't u11 still a developmental age?
            Here we go again. Just stop this already. It is U10 and U11 soccer not politics!!! Or is it?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The girls should also being taught good sportsmanship which includes respecting the ref no matter how questionable the calls. THey may love their coach, he may be a fantastic coach, but he should also be a good role model for the kids at ALL times during a game. We have all been at club games (and town games for that matter) where the ref makes bad calls and ends up influencing the final score. Why not wait until after the game, tell the girls how well they played and let them know that sometimes the ref doesn't make the right calls and what is most important is how the girls played--isn't u11 still a developmental age?

              Liz L., do you do that? You were tossed out before for much more than this. Stop preaching role-modeling.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Here we go again. Just stop this already. It is U10 and U11 soccer not politics!!! Or is it?
                Huh????

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  My daughter plays for NEFC. I was at the game. In my opinion, which i'm sure will get chopped to shreds, here's what happened in the game. NEFC has never played against a younger team. After scoring about 30 seconds into the game, NEFC took SSS to lightly. SSS is a very good team. NEFC is a much bigger team physically. Everytime there was contact, and i'm sorry, but soccer is a contact sport, the NEFC players got called for a foul. I"m not saying all the calls weren't legit, but from the NEFC point of view, if they got within 5 yards of an SSS player, they were called for a foul. The game was great with lots of scoring chances for both teams. I think early on, NEFC was not able to put a bunch of open crossing passes into the net and instead put them over the net. NEFC coaches got frustrated. The first SSS goal was the direct result of one of these questionable foul calls. Right or wrong, the call resulted in the first goal. The problem from where i sit was that the refereee swallowed his whistle when the calls should have gone against SSS. TAke down in the box late in the game, and an obvious hands ball near the box midway thru the second half that stopped an NEFC break stand out in my mind. There were also quite a few tripping/kicking fouls aginst SSS that the ref swallowed his whistle on. The play where Nick eventually got tossed was pretty funny. The NEFC girl WAS offsides. The ref made the right call, but Nick needed to be go by that point in the game and he went. Nick went off on the ref, and was rightly tossed. NEFC was finally able to put one of those crossing passes into the net to take a 2-1 lead with about 5 minutes left. Instead of getting down, the SSS girls played as hard as they could in the last 5 minutes and were able to tie the game. What a gut-check by the SSS girls. Very impressive. After the game, the coaches went at each other. IF you're an SSS parent, the ref did a great job. If you're an NEFC parent, they did not. Either way, both teams played a great game and both teams had their chances to win. From where i sit, this is the first time i have to say that the ref did actually influence the outcome of the game. I asked my daughter after the game about Nick. She said that nobody on the team takes anything personally and she really likes playing for him. To me, Nick is an old-time coach from the days i was in school and played sports. He's young, loud, and gets into the game. Eventually he will learn to focus on the next play and not the last call. The ref has NEVER changed his call based on what a coach has to say. I'd like to have intense games like this every week. For my daughter, she loves the intensity and this is why we play club soccer.
                  What a hoot!!!

                  And people wonder why the Maple model is bad for youth soccer. (eyeroll)

                  We have a "professional" coaching 10 and 11 year old girls who loses it over a U11 game against a team with some 9 year olds in it.

                  And how old was the referee of this U11 game that the "professional" went off on?

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                    #24
                    What is it about the nefc coaching staff, from coaching HS to U11, that you read about them on TS all the time. Used to think that it was a few isolated problems, but now it just seems like problems follow them everywhere.

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                      #25
                      So should we not teach life lessons during athletics? What can we take out of this? When things don't go your way it's acceptable to act like a spoiled child. Can't wait till one of his players emulate this great behavior and get tossed from a game. Hey coach things weren't going my way so I had to go. I was also at this game and his "tactics" of acting like a lunatic definitely affected the younger SSS team. If that was his plan to motivate his team and intimidate the other I think it was reprehensible and has no place in youth soccer. Jmo

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        What is it about the nefc coaching staff, from coaching HS to U11, that you read about them on TS all the time. Used to think that it was a few isolated problems, but now it just seems like problems follow them everywhere.
                        Birds of a feather flock together.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So should we not teach life lessons during athletics? What can we take out of this? When things don't go your way it's acceptable to act like a spoiled child. Can't wait till one of his players emulate this great behavior and get tossed from a game. Hey coach things weren't going my way so I had to go. I was also at this game and his "tactics" of acting like a lunatic definitely affected the younger SSS team. If that was his plan to motivate his team and intimidate the other I think it was reprehensible and has no place in youth soccer. Jmo
                          Didn't anyone have a phone with video capabilities? I keep saying this stuff would end real quick if it were posted on You Tube.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            What a hoot!!!

                            And people wonder why the Maple model is bad for youth soccer. (eyeroll)

                            We have a "professional" coaching 10 and 11 year old girls who loses it over a U11 game against a team with some 9 year olds in it.

                            And how old was the referee of this U11 game that the "professional" went off on?
                            Youth soccer has lost its mind. At what point did people decide that "professional coaches" were the way to go. This has fundamentally changed the approach to the game and in no way has it been a successful one: the lack of success in all levels of the game in the international arena continue to bear this out. The game is best taught with a few basic skills instruction and then playing. Our reliance on the coaching ranks is ludicrous and very few can own up to the failure of the money that flows into the coffers of these so called "professionals". It's u11 for God's sake; get a grip.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              What is it about the nefc coaching staff, from coaching HS to U11, that you read about them on TS all the time. Used to think that it was a few isolated problems, but now it just seems like problems follow them everywhere.
                              Nope. It is called success and fear, my friend. The more successful NEFC gets, more the coaches and players are bashed here.

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                                #30
                                A coach should not every lose their cool in front of their players. Players take on the attitude of the coach and will copy what they do during the game. Arguing with the referee is never going to change the outcome of the call and usually will cause them to call the game in favor of the other team. I do not agree with teams playing up for multiple reasons but referees should call the game based on the age group/level of play and not the age of a team playing up. No league should allow teams to play up for developmental reasons. I also think all leagues should have a referee comment form for the coaches to fill out after the game and mail into the referee assignor for those leagues. The assignor needs to assign qualified referees to the appropriate age and level of play. Also any game that has offsides should have a referee and two referee assistants.

                                I have seen many SSS teams play up in indoors/outdoors and the referees always error on their side of the smaller younger team. I will agree that soccer is a contact sport and physical play is sometimes part of the game. I will also agree with this parent that kids do not play as hard against smaller younger teams for the fear of hurting them. SSS U10 is a very talented team but I think teams should always play age appropriate games even if they are better than their competition.

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