2011 Boys Soccer Verbal Commitments

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Much of your post is tiring. Please find posts that declare that DAP is the "only" avenue to be seen by college coaches. You appear to be trolling.

Start at page 1 and read through all posts, you can see for yourself.

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On paper yes, but unless they played the Bolts non-DAp team, or Stars, SFV, etc.. we wouldn't know. If one of the teams should happen to win on a freaky goal, they can't turn around and say they are the best. Unfortunately, in this sport, you don't play a 'best of ' series.

Let's stop with "on paper" the local DAP teams are the best teams in the state for their respective age groups, and not qualify it with unknowns.

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My question wasn't a trap, but its telling how you answered the question - none of the advice you offered your son had anything to do with helping him take his game to the next level.

I think it's time for you to pass the baton on to someone else who can do a better job advocating for the MA DAP thesis.

What exactly do you mean by "next level"? Next level for my kid would be D3 soccer. What about you? And if your kid got a professional contract offer from some club in Yugoslavia, would he go? Or would that mess up his plan for a NESCAC school? If both of our kids are sitting together on the bench at Bowdoin does it matter who played DAP?

The biggest problem you have on this thread, amidst all of your smokescreen efforts, is that you have no commitments to post. And deep down even you know that telling us we won't know until September is a deceptive, time-buying cop-out since most D1 programs were done a long time ago with their recruiting. I know, your DAP kids could play D1 but would rather go to D3 schools....what was that about "next level"????

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Start at page 1 and read through all posts, you can see for yourself.

Troll. Just like I thought.

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Troll. Just like I thought.

Nope, just asking that do you do your work.

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"Next level" is all about your son and what he wants to do with his soccer. My kid is irrelevant. As you note, if he and your son both ended up on the bench together at Bowdoin, how they got there, doesn't matter.

Bowdoin is a topnotch school. They play very competitive soccer there. Bowdoin draws talented players from all over the country and abroad. Just being on the team is an accomplishment one can be proud of.

There is a difference, however, between playing and just being on the team. If your son were to have a conversation with you about how excited he is about attending Bowdoin and the prospects of playing soccer there and he asked your advice on whether he should stick with his current MAPLE or play DAP to ensure his best chance of getting on the field, what would you say?

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"Next level" is all about your son and what he wants to do with his soccer. My kid is irrelevant. As you note, if he and your son both ended up on the bench together at Bowdoin, how they got there, doesn't matter.

Bowdoin is a topnotch school. They play very competitive soccer there. Bowdoin draws talented players from all over the country and abroad. Just being on the team is an accomplishment one can be proud of.

There is a difference, however, between playing and just being on the team. If your son were to have a conversation with you about how excited he is about attending Bowdoin and the prospects of playing soccer there and he asked your advice on whether he should stick with his current MAPLE or play DAP to ensure his best chance of getting on the field, what would you say?

You're asking a skewed question, which I understand, but it's still skewed. If there were no other considerations, and he wanted to try out for the highest level, whatever that happened to be, then of course I would support that. But none of these decisions happen in a perfect vacuum. I'm sure yours doesn't either. But...to play along...IF my son had his heart set on Bowdoin, and IF he had his heart set on giving him his best chance to actually play at Bowdoin, I still don't think he would have tried out for DAP. In addition to having a perfectly good alternative (and good enough competition) in which he found no roadblocks in terms of getting the attention he wanted to get (which is different than saying every coach he was able to access wanted him), he would not have put himself in a position to qualify for Bowdoin (insert any similar school or even a hair below) ACADEMICALLY if he had done DAP. In other words, he has done exactly what he needed to do to give himself his best chance. If we lived right around the corner from the practices, then maybe the answer would be different, but in our minds his chances of getting in and playing at a good school are enhanced by his academic profile more so than by playing DAP. It's like the old AP course question....is it better to take an AP and get a B or take a non-AP and get an A, and the answer is take the AP and get an A. By analogy, maybe some kids can get an A and play DAP. My kid can't. And the few in DAP who can didn't need DAP. And those are the kind of kids who 2 semesters into Bowdoin or Williams or whatever won't care if they're still playing soccer. They may still play and do well, but they are superstar kids (beyond soccer) and will have multiple interests and passions. This type represents a small fraction of the MA DAP teams.

And why is your kid irrelevant? Part of the frustration some of us are having in this "discussion" is that it has been very focused on the mistake that non-DAP players are making (if they could play DAP) and all the reasons why. What has not been articulated is how it is in fact helping, concretely, the kids actually doing it.

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Nope, just asking that do you do your work.

Your logic is off. When you make a statement (as you did in post #461) and present it as fact you need to be able to back it up when called upon to do so. You appear unable. You got caught. And now you find yourself on a fool's errand.

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Your logic is off. When you make a statement (as you did in post #461) and present it as fact you need to be able to back it up when called upon to do so. You appear unable. You got caught. And now you find yourself on a fool's errand.

Different poster. You are parsing words again. If one reads the whole thread, the DAP poster(s) -- maybe just you? -- gives the distinct opinion that playing non-DAP if one could do otherwise is a fool's folly and that a non-DAP player's chances at college are dramatically reduced and shrinking by the minute. How many times have you posted that ALL of the college coaches are going to DAP events and they know they don't need to waste elsewhere. Your argument actually makes sense, if only the data for 2011 in MA would back you up.

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Different poster. You are parsing words again. If one reads the whole thread, the DAP poster(s) -- maybe just you? -- gives the distinct opinion that playing non-DAP if one could do otherwise is a fool's folly and that a non-DAP player's chances at college are dramatically reduced and shrinking by the minute. How many times have you posted that ALL of the college coaches are going to DAP events and they know they don't need to waste elsewhere. Your argument actually makes sense, if only the data for 2011 in MA would back you up.

How many times? Never.

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How many times? Never.

Blinding denial is a powerful tool. And I think you actually believe yourself.

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Blinding denial is a powerful tool. And I think you actually believe yourself.

Show us where it is written o wise one. Perhaps you simply like the role of victim.

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Show us where it is written o wise one. Perhaps you simply like the role of victim.

For starters -- and this doesn't even include the strategic posting of the goal.com article and posting stats about DAP elsewhere in the country (when we keep asking for MA stats) -- check out posts #'s 369, 375, 380, 382, 389, 394, and 427. And these don't include the multiple challenges to explain ourselves if our kid didn't try out or wasn't interested in DAP. And when a real answer was given to that question you completely ignored it. You just continued with abusive insinuations that parents are overcontrolling and preventing their kids from pursuing a quest for glory. Just as you are now, after pointedly asking another question as you like to do, again are failing to respond (post 472) when you get a direct, honest answer. Meanwhile, we're 49 pages into a 2011 Boys Commitments thread and so far there ain't much (except for a constant prayer that we wait for September, 2-3 months after the 2011s have graduated from high school and 4 months after the notification deadline in May).

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I checked the 2010 boys commitment thread and about this time last year there were 10 players headed to D1 schools, 4 players to D2 schools and 13 players headed to D3 schools.

Where are all of the 2011 commitments?

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To the poster above me, a lot of kids just are not bothering to contact espn and get their commitments listed.