2011 Boys Soccer Verbal Commitments

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A small school with limited funds will go to the place where they can see the most good players. And that is a DAP event. 70+ teams in two age groups (covering four or more ages) is over 1500 of the best players on a starting lineup alone. All over 4 days of a DAP event. How many little regional or local showcases does a coach have to attend to see that much quality in one place over that short a period of time? And all in hopes of maybe seeing the one or two good kids that happen to not play on a DAP team?

Any school serious about it's soccer program is going to DAP games.

For the umpteenth time, we all agree coaches will go to DAP events. They will also go to non-DAP events, knowing that there are very good players that can help their program that don't play for DAP teams. Is this so hard to understand?

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Seems like someone is getting a little upset because they were faced with a few facts

Actually you could not be more wrong. Have not had a dog in the hunt for more than 10 years. Pt barnum was right....

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interesting to see how mass stacks up against the nation...

Where's the talent?

When it comes to NCAA Division I verbal commits, the answer tends to be California and along the Atlantic Coast,

In this, the first installment of recruiting updates leading to signing day in February, ESPN RISE breaks down the current list of NCAA Division I commitments based on home state. It is no surprise that California, the nation's most populated state, tops the list with 61 confirmed verbals. New Jersey checks in at No. 2, followed by Virginia at No. 3 and North Carolina at No. 4.

Looking at the list regionally, the Southeast has three states in the top six -- Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia -- and five in the top 13. The Northeast offers three states -- New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New York -- in the top eight.

In upcoming weeks, ESPN RISE will continue to update the numbers and start deeper analysis of recruiting trends, looking at situation such as Division I commitments per capita and Division I commitments relative to the number of Division I schools in that state.

1. California 61
2. New Jersey 48
3. Virginia 40
4. North Carolina 39
5. Pennsylvania 35
6. Georgia 31
7. Illinois 29
8. New York 28
9. Texas 22
10. Ohio 21
11. Michigan 20
12. Florida 19
13. South Carolina 15
14. Connecticut 14
15. Indiana 13
16t. Maryland 11
16t. Wisconsin 11
18. Missouri 10
19. Washington 9
20t. Kentucky 7
20t. Massachusetts 7
20t. Tennessee 7

Do you think there is any correlation between state populations, climate, and number of players? Mass is pretty much proportionate to it's population.

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For the umpteenth time, we all agree coaches will go to DAP events. They will also go to non-DAP events, knowing that there are very good players that can help their program that don't play for DAP teams. Is this so hard to understand?

And for the umpteenth time, they are going to fewer of those non DAP events, and virtually no non DAP regular season games. Yet, there are always coaches at DAP regular season games. This gives a coach an ability to see a player several times. Meaning if he sees your kid once at a non DAP game, you have to hope your kid plays well.

You want to give your kid the best possible chance to be seen by coaches? You let him play on a DAP team (assuming he's good enough to get on a roster). You want to take your chances in non DAP? Go ahead. Yes, you'll still have a chance to be seen. But it's a comparatively small chance, and shrinking.

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And for the umpteenth time, they are going to fewer of those non DAP events, and virtually no non DAP regular season games. Yet, there are always coaches at DAP regular season games. This gives a coach an ability to see a player several times. Meaning if he sees your kid once at a non DAP game, you have to hope your kid plays well.

You want to give your kid the best possible chance to be seen by coaches? You let him play on a DAP team (assuming he's good enough to get on a roster). You want to take your chances in non DAP? Go ahead. Yes, you'll still have a chance to be seen. But it's a comparatively small chance, and shrinking.

That's too bad that all these showcases will cease to exist in 2 years. Get a clue. Your comment is why people on this forum are fed up with the holier than thou DAP attitude.

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And for the umpteenth time, they are going to fewer of those non DAP events, and virtually no non DAP regular season games. Yet, there are always coaches at DAP regular season games. This gives a coach an ability to see a player several times. Meaning if he sees your kid once at a non DAP game, you have to hope your kid plays well.

You want to give your kid the best possible chance to be seen by coaches? You let him play on a DAP team (assuming he's good enough to get on a roster). You want to take your chances in non DAP? Go ahead. Yes, you'll still have a chance to be seen. But it's a comparatively small chance, and shrinking.

Sounds ominous. Where is the poster who says you guys haven't been saying basically what you're saying? And what are you going to do when all the better non-DAP players are forced to try out and join and your kid gets cut? What then?

Will more DAP teams be created, or will all the non-DAP players just be screwed (except for this year of course where they are landing at good schools all over the place)?

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And for the umpteenth time, they are going to fewer of those non DAP events, and virtually no non DAP regular season games. Yet, there are always coaches at DAP regular season games. This gives a coach an ability to see a player several times. Meaning if he sees your kid once at a non DAP game, you have to hope your kid plays well.

You want to give your kid the best possible chance to be seen by coaches? You let him play on a DAP team (assuming he's good enough to get on a roster). You want to take your chances in non DAP? Go ahead. Yes, you'll still have a chance to be seen. But it's a comparatively small chance, and shrinking.

750 D1 recruits and 10+Million soccer players. Do the math. Have your kid learn an instrument. Many many more scholarship opportunities and jobs post-college.

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750 D1 recruits and 10+Million soccer players. Do the math. Have your kid learn an instrument. Many many more scholarship opportunities and jobs post-college.

Last year there were about 20 D1 players and about 25% of those saw some playing time. This year there are about 10 players so far. If Massachusetts represents about 5% of the US population, then there should be about 38 players who will go D1 per year. If foreign recruits cut that number in half, then Massachusetts should provide approximately 19 players per year to D1 programs. I am sure that by September, you will find approximately 20 players on D1 rosters for the 2011 season.

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Last year there were about 20 D1 players and about 25% of those saw some playing time. This year there are about 10 players so far. If Massachusetts represents about 5% of the US population, then there should be about 38 players who will go D1 per year. If foreign recruits cut that number in half, then Massachusetts should provide approximately 19 players per year to D1 programs. I am sure that by September, you will find approximately 20 players on D1 rosters for the 2011 season.

And in late October you will find them huddled on the bench trying to stay warm in a warmup.

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And in late October you will find them huddled on the bench trying to stay warm in a warmup.

Just like their Bolts coaches when they played for Hensley on the Heath in the Northern Premier League....

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Wow. Here's what I have been able to determine from reading this thread:

All players in Massachusetts suck.

From what I read, the parents who have a kid playing in an Academy team are firm believers in the Academy system. This is no different than what has gone on in this forum for years. Those parents on the board with kids on teams like teh Bolts, Stars, Scorpions, and MPS have been doing it for years. And those parents that do not have kids on those clubs defend and rationalize their reasons for it.

While it's clear that you all hold a low opinion of a player who happens to live and/or play in this state, no one has attempted to explain why they don't enjoy the success that kids from other states do.

Here's how I see the problem:
First of all, take a step back and look at the posts. Your are parents for God's sake. Listen to yourselves. Arguing like immature children hoping to get in the last word and desperately clinging to the only thing yoy know how to measure: Victory. You only want to win an argument. Just like you only want your kid to win a soccer game, or have him bee sen/percieved as a winner in the race for the right path to college. You're supposed to set the examples. Instead, you're pathetic.

I have daughters, so I can speak to the validity of whether the Academy team is the right path to college or not, whether now or in the future. I have a read fair bit of material about it, and the idea behind it is solid. It's young, and I don't see it going away. What I don't understand is that it seems that the same people here who are quick to say that Massachusetts players aren't any good are the ones trashing the Academy program and the teams in it. If you believe our players aren't any good, why aren't you more supportive of a program that has been designed to gather much of the area's best players, to have them focus on training, and to move away from this system that only stresses winning?

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That's too bad that all these showcases will cease to exist in 2 years. Get a clue. Your comment is why people on this forum are fed up with the holier than thou DAP attitude.

Really? Where are they going? The DAP is NOT going away. In fact, it will only grow to include younger age groups.

Get a clue? I think you might want to pull your head out of that hole in the ground to understand and realize what is going on here.

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Here's how I see the problem:
First of all, take a step back and look at the posts. Your are parents for God's sake. Listen to yourselves. Arguing like immature children hoping to get in the last word and desperately clinging to the only thing yoy know how to measure: Victory. You only want to win an argument. Just like you only want your kid to win a soccer game, or have him bee sen/percieved as a winner in the race for the right path to college. You're supposed to set the examples. Instead, you're pathetic.

Good analysis of the crazies who post to this forum.

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Good analysis of the crazies who post to this forum.

The good news is that in a few years these obsessive nut-cases will be far removed from the soccer scene and will be annoying a whole other set of people in a new venue.

The bad news is that they will be replaced by new nut-cases.

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agreed, very unusual. wonder if anyone on this forum know's the reason for all those schools

yes, 4 high schools is correct if you count the IMG. Left CCHS in Feb/March for IMG but shows up as a CCHS graduate - not sure how that is possible.