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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Don't see how play during the PG year itself helps very much. Season is in the fall and the major, and some minor,D1's have pretty much got things lined up for the subsequent year.

    At best I think a PG year serves as a placeholder for those players who are recruited late for whatever reason (senior year) such that there is no room in the subsequent year.

    DII and DIII are a whole different ballgame, but why do a PG year to play D3 soccer?
    Only way a PG year could help (soccer wise only) is if he was late on the radar for whatever reason and wanted to have the opportunity to have a full recruiting cycle for D1. If so I would try to join a DAP team if the player was talented enough to be seen by more D1 coaches. Gives the player another year to mature physically. Remember so much of recruiting depends upon the need of a particular college team--they may not be interested not because you are not good enough, but rather because they don't have a need for your position or skill set currently. However, the question becomes what is the cost $$$ of the PG year because there are no guarantees you will ending up getting any amount of athletic aid $$$ in a very shallow pool available for Men's College Soccer.

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      [QUOTE=Unregistered;440125

      DII and DIII are a whole different ballgame, but why do a PG year to play D3 soccer?[/QUOTE]

      Then you obviously don't understand the DAP, ISL, NESCAC, NESCAC-like elitism and wannabe-elitism industrial complex. For some folks Conn College and Trinity isn't going to cut it at a cocktail party or on the sidelines, and for some other folks they at least need to get to Conn College or Trinity to get in the cocktail party and/or avoid feeling like a complete failure on the sidelines.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Then you obviously don't understand the DAP, ISL, NESCAC, NESCAC-like elitism and wannabe-elitism industrial complex. For some folks Conn College and Trinity isn't going to cut it at a cocktail party or on the sidelines, and for some other folks they at least need to get to Conn College or Trinity to get in the cocktail party and/or avoid feeling like a complete failure on the sidelines.
        Right. And those that don't are doomed to a meager and miserable existence putting posts up on a nasty and classless internet forum promoting stale, tired, and irrelevant stereotypes about groups of people he has no ability to understand.

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          hNYCAH

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          DII and DIII are a whole different ballgame, but why do a PG year to play D3 soccer?
          Because many boys would like to go to a more selective college ie NESCAC, and they dont have the grades/SAT's coming out of HS. Bowdoin who is having a great year, has a number of boys who did PG years

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Then you obviously don't understand the DAP, ISL, NESCAC, NESCAC-like elitism and wannabe-elitism industrial complex. For some folks Conn College and Trinity isn't going to cut it at a cocktail party or on the sidelines, and for some other folks they at least need to get to Conn College or Trinity to get in the cocktail party and/or avoid feeling like a complete failure on the sidelines.
            Man, this is a tough crowd....

            I don't get the commitment thing? Is a "committed" player already admitted to the school or do they still have to apply and assumably will get in with coach's support? How do commitments fit with incoming transfers and grad students with a year of eligibility left?

            How does the scholarship part of this work? My understanding is programs don't know how much scholarship money they have until after the season is over and they know who's returning, which returning players deserved to have their scholarship increased, how much financial aid is needed for the top incoming players whether an incoming freshman, transfer or grad student.

            What happens if you're a committed player and the scholarship $ runs out before the program gets to you? Are you plain SOL?

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              Their are a lot of player's who simply have decided which schools they are going to attend next year. Their are only 2 players from the bolts DAP team who have listed their selections, where as I know that Seagel, McGrory, Stronach, Davis, Bailey, and Ballenthin are all in talks with numerous D1 schools... The showcase down in phoenix is going to play a big part in which schools they go to.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Their are a lot of player's who simply have decided which schools they are going to attend next year. Their are only 2 players from the bolts DAP team who have listed their selections, where as I know that Seagel, McGrory, Stronach, Davis, Bailey, and Ballenthin are all in talks with numerous D1 schools... The showcase down in phoenix is going to play a big part in which schools they go to.
                Most of the D1 coaches in Phoenix will be looking at 2012 graduates. Most of the bigger programs have finished with their 2011 class.

                By the way, I'm sure these boys are happy to have an anonymous stranger speaking for them.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Most of the D1 coaches in Phoenix will be looking at 2012 graduates. Most of the bigger programs have finished with their 2011 class.

                  By the way, I'm sure these boys are happy to have an anonymous stranger speaking for them.
                  Exactly. I'd be a little peaved if my kid were listed by someone. I also agree that schools are looking at 2012 and maybe 2013. If the offer isn't there by now, playing in Az isn't going to make it happen. Especialcy with admission deadlines. Most of the Patriot league wrapped it's 2011 process around Sept 1. So, there maybe D1 schools, but what level?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Their are only 2 players from the bolts DAP team who have listed their selections, .
                    To where?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Their are a lot of player's who simply have decided which schools they are going to attend next year. Their are only 2 players from the bolts DAP team who have listed their selections, where as I know that Seagel, McGrory, Stronach, Davis, Bailey, and Ballenthin are all in talks with numerous D1 schools... The showcase down in phoenix is going to play a big part in which schools they go to.

                      ummmm....if you are a senior and still negotiating with D1's at this point in time, you are not anywhere near the top of their list.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        ummmm....if you are a senior and still negotiating with D1's at this point in time, you are not anywhere near the top of their list.
                        So by that argument Denormandie (waiting to hear from UNC) should just give up and not bother anymore?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          ummmm....if you are a senior and still negotiating with D1's at this point in time, you are not anywhere near the top of their list.
                          I agree. Most D1 players being picked up now are depth players and will not likely get much playing time. If those players want the prestige of D1 and like the school academically, then go. If they want to play soccer, drop a division or two. Good examples are the two MA BC recruits from last year.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            So by that argument Denormandie (waiting to hear from UNC) should just give up and not bother anymore?
                            This is why I've taken his recent publicity with a grain of salt.

                            If he was that good, that big a prospect, he would have already received his offers from these D1 schools. The coaches would have put deadlines on him committing, so they knew whether or not to move on to other candidates.

                            But having said that, maybe he's committed somewhere and just not all that interested in making it public. Which in unlikely given the publicity he's sought out recently.

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                              That's why you have to be skeptical when you only hear of 4 or 5 kids who have made their decisions public, all I'm saying.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Which in unlikely given the publicity he's sought out recently.
                                Ahmen

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