2011 Boys Soccer Verbal Commitments

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Let me get this straight. You're suggesting that a kid or family would email ESPN and make a commitment, and the kid i not going to play there???

It happened last year. And the year before. They are non binding verbal committments, dependent on parents who decide to announce to the world where their kid has decided to play at that moment in time. A lot can and will change before September.

And the list only includes early decisions as the application deadline isn't even here yet.

It must be a terrible burden for you to carry all this bitterness around with you.

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It happened last year. And the year before. They are non binding verbal committments, dependent on parents who decide to announce to the world where their kid has decided to play at that moment in time. A lot can and will change before September.

And the list only includes early decisions as the application deadline isn't even here yet.

It must be a terrible burden for you to carry all this bitterness around with you.

Different poster. You have what is called a reaction formation. You are the bitter person. For a commitment to be posted, especially one noted in a national service, and for you to immediately say it may mean nothing in terms of soccer reeks of bitterness. Never seen anyone make your alleged point with a DAP commitment and never seen it when any of the girls are announced. You simply cannot tolerate any non-DAP kids succeeding, pure and simple. People keep posting about all of the disadvantages of being a non-DAP player, and there are disadvantages, but so far mostly what we see is non-DAP commitments to very good schools rolling in. Good players find schools, period. And those faking behind a name brand get found out eventually.

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mass dap teams are easily the weakest in the dap leauge. the northeast division is by far the easiest to win, only 5 teams. so it's no surprise bolts and revs have few kids going d1. the northeast for the boys' side is generally bad.

The way the DAP program works is you have sub-divisions, as you note, and games outside your particular sub-division. So for example, the Revs and Bolts play home and home games against eachother, as well as NY Red Bull, DC United and all other DAP teams in between. The Bolts and Revs have more than held there own against these teams, and both made the post season last year. To say they "easily the weakest in the DAP league" is, at best, uniformed.

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The way the DAP program works is you have sub-divisions, as you note, and games outside your particular sub-division. So for example, the Revs and Bolts play home and home games against eachother, as well as NY Red Bull, DC United and all other DAP teams in between. The Bolts and Revs have more than held there own against these teams, and both made the post season last year. To say they "easily the weakest in the DAP league" is, at best, uniformed.

the revs and bolts made the post season becuase they were the top 2 teams in a weak 5 team division. you can tell how strong a conf is by the teams pts per game so a team that goes 30-0 would have 3.0 and 1.5 is a .500 team. revs and bolts last yr had 1.75 and 1.59 which is ok for an avg team but not ur 2 div winners. the rest of the teams were below .500. put them in any other conf they don't make it to playoffs, not even a wildcard. other conf had half the teams with winning records and had 1 or 2 wildcards.

now i've caught you up to speed becuase you were clearly uninformed.

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The way the DAP program works is you have sub-divisions, as you note, and games outside your particular sub-division. So for example, the Revs and Bolts play home and home games against eachother, as well as NY Red Bull, DC United and all other DAP teams in between. The Bolts and Revs have more than held there own against these teams, and both made the post season last year. To say they "easily the weakest in the DAP league" is, at best, uniformed.

besides a lucky win over dc united, the revs got owned by the teams from the mid atl and liberty divisions. bolts were slightly better. bolts were 1-1-1 in the playoffs, revs were horrible, 0-3 1gf 12ga.

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D1 players have already started to commit. Ma is behind the 8 ball on D1 boy players. For a state with such a large pool of players are % of D1 players is VERY POOR. I spoke with a DAP player the other day at a banquet. He is looking at Keene St., a solid D3 program. Another DAP player is attending community college in NJ, actually already rostered on it from last year. Former DAP playerof 2 years is at Anna Maria College. DAP has it success but not all D1 people not all D1

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Different poster. You have what is called a reaction formation. You are the bitter person. For a commitment to be posted, especially one noted in a national service, and for you to immediately say it may mean nothing in terms of soccer reeks of bitterness. Never seen anyone make your alleged point with a DAP commitment and never seen it when any of the girls are announced. You simply cannot tolerate any non-DAP kids succeeding, pure and simple. People keep posting about all of the disadvantages of being a non-DAP player, and there are disadvantages, but so far mostly what we see is non-DAP commitments to very good schools rolling in. Good players find schools, period. And those faking behind a name brand get found out eventually.

No, I'm not bitter at all. I'm happy for any kid that goes where they think the best fit is.

The difference between me and you (apart from my heightened level of knowledge and experience) is that I don't take any pleasure in the falsely percieved failures of kids, teams, clubs, programs, and schools.

I know of dozens of kids (DAP and non DAP) who have committed to D1, D2, and D3 schools that have chosen not to e-mail ESPN and announce it, or chosen not to update their DAP profiles with their college committment. Not everyone has the arrogance to believe the world is waiting to see where they go to school, and not everyone is in any sort of hurry to have ignorant and uninformed people like you on forums like this rip apart their choices when you don't have the first clue about why they chose the school they did.

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D1 players have already started to commit. Ma is behind the 8 ball on D1 boy players. For a state with such a large pool of players are % of D1 players is VERY POOR. I spoke with a DAP player the other day at a banquet. He is looking at Keene St., a solid D3 program. Another DAP player is attending community college in NJ, actually already rostered on it from last year. Former DAP playerof 2 years is at Anna Maria College. DAP has it success but not all D1 people not all D1

When will we be rid of the ignorant perception that if a player doesn't go to a D1 school, it is a failure?

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It happened last year. And the year before. They are non binding verbal committments, dependent on parents who decide to announce to the world where their kid has decided to play at that moment in time. A lot can and will change before September.

And the list only includes early decisions as the application deadline isn't even here yet.

It must be a terrible burden for you to carry all this bitterness around with you.

You obviously have not been thru this.

The list has nothing to do with EA, ED, or RD. It is a commitment, that can change. On that point you are correct. You are not correct on the deadline piece, RD deadlines are typically 12/31, some schools may have rolling until 2/1. ED and EA acceptances have been mailed or will be inthe next 2 weeks depending on the school. Most coachers want their recruits to apply EA, which lets the coach know that the player is a definite for the fall.

It amzes me that the DAP koolaid drinkers come up with more and more reasons why the list is so short for commitments, or why the non-DAP commitments do not mean anything.

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No, I'm not bitter at all. I'm happy for any kid that goes where they think the best fit is.

The difference between me and you (apart from my heightened level of knowledge and experience) is that I don't take any pleasure in the falsely percieved failures of kids, teams, clubs, programs, and schools.

I know of dozens of kids (DAP and non DAP) who have committed to D1, D2, and D3 schools that have chosen not to e-mail ESPN and announce it, or chosen not to update their DAP profiles with their college committment. Not everyone has the arrogance to believe the world is waiting to see where they go to school, and not everyone is in any sort of hurry to have ignorant and uninformed people like you on forums like this rip apart their choices when you don't have the first clue about why they chose the school they did.

Oh please. There is so much chest pumping here that you really think a player who has committed would not update his profile and/or update the commitment list??? BTW, a player should be updating his profile so that other schools do not waste there time reaching out to a player already committed.

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When will we be rid of the ignorant perception that if a player doesn't go to a D1 school, it is a failure?

it's not a failure, it's just that d3 is so easy to play in comparison to d1. there are so few d1 men soccer programs where as there are tons of d3 soccer ones. 9 kids in ma going d1, when it is all done for 2011s there will prob be 70 ma kids playing d3 and many more that could have but went to a big school like umass where they couldn't play soccer. stop being so sensitive

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the revs and bolts made the post season becuase they were the top 2 teams in a weak 5 team division. you can tell how strong a conf is by the teams pts per game so a team that goes 30-0 would have 3.0 and 1.5 is a .500 team. revs and bolts last yr had 1.75 and 1.59 which is ok for an avg team but not ur 2 div winners. the rest of the teams were below .500. put them in any other conf they don't make it to playoffs, not even a wildcard. other conf had half the teams with winning records and had 1 or 2 wildcards.

now i've caught you up to speed becuase you were clearly uninformed.

What are you talking about? Both the Revs & Bolts U18 teams would have advanced as wild card teams if they had not finished 1 & 2 in their (6) team division. FYI there are three (6) team divisions and two (7) team divisions; no (5) team divisions. You may be interested to know that three other divisions had first place teams with lower Pts/GP ratios. Additionally, only 27 of the 77 teams had higher ratios than the Revs and only 21 higher than the Bolts. You will find all this information at ussoccer.com.

Do us all a favor and get the facts straight before you waste everyone's time. Sloppy and ignorant is no way to go through life.

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What are you talking about? Both the Revs & Bolts U18 teams would have advanced as wild card teams if they had not finished 1 & 2 in their (6) team division. FYI there are three (6) team divisions and two (7) team divisions; no (5) team divisions. You may be interested to know that three other divisions had first place teams with lower Pts/GP ratios. Additionally, only 27 of the 77 teams had higher ratios than the Revs and only 21 higher than the Bolts. You will find all this information at ussoccer.com.

Do us all a favor and get the facts straight before you waste everyone's time. Sloppy and ignorant is no way to go through life.

New poster. How do you DAP folks manage to deal with living in a world with the rest of us? To be so bright and pristine, and then have to deal with us, must be a burden beyond description. And then to have no commitments to report must be just a living hell.

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What are you talking about? Both the Revs & Bolts U18 teams would have advanced as wild card teams if they had not finished 1 & 2 in their (6) team division. FYI there are three (6) team divisions and two (7) team divisions; no (5) team divisions. You may be interested to know that three other divisions had first place teams with lower Pts/GP ratios. Additionally, only 27 of the 77 teams had higher ratios than the Revs and only 21 higher than the Bolts. You will find all this information at ussoccer.com.

Do us all a favor and get the facts straight before you waste everyone's time. Sloppy and ignorant is no way to go through life.

i understand that 3 other divisions had 1st place teams lower Pts/GP ratios but that's because they played much tougher teams, revs and bolts get to play pathetic teams like empire, seacoast, oakwood, and so central twice. put the revs or bolts in the so cal , southeast, teaxas or great lakes div and they would be at the bottom. the great lakes div for example, had 4 teams of 6 make it. the 4th place team vardar ended up winning the whole thing, making it out of a tough group at greensboro and california.

i know your an elitist bolts or revs parent who can't accept those teams are just big fish in the worst acad div. try to understand these facts, but you'll prob just do some more meaningless number crunching.

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New poster. How do you DAP folks manage to deal with living in a world with the rest of us? To be so bright and pristine, and then have to deal with us, must be a burden beyond description. And then to have no commitments to report must be just a living hell.

Just the facts mam ....just the facts