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As long as you stop perpetuating the myth that there is no advantage to playing DAP with misinfomation, your premise is quite sound. -
New NonDAP poster here
I think we can all agree that the DAP provides the overall best recruiting opportunities. I think the problem is that our local DAPs have not produced player placements that are "significantly" different than Non-DAP. Shouldn't it be significantly different/better?
I think that if we had a "high caliber" DAP program in our area (meaning they consistently perform well on a regional/national level and that the majority of their players are attending top D1 and D3 programs) more non-DAPers would convert.Comment
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You have clearly missed the point. The only thing that matters is what you believe and want for your own son. It does not matter what anyone else thinks. If someone thinks that driving a Chevy is better than driving a Ford, would you rant and rave about that too? It is about personal preference.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Only if they claimed the Chevy Aveo was just as good at hauling payload as a Ford F-150. Which is essentially what you've been doing.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Matheus Goncalves F Mass. Worcester Academy FC Greater Boston BoltsComment
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A little perspective from a NH parent. (Not much ever happens on the NH board...)
My son played last year for a non-DAP NH team. A good team, probably on par with Maple D1. This year a good number of kids left the team to play Seacoast DAP and Rev DAP. The sole reason they did so was better college exposure--they all really wanted D1 soccer berths. I've not seen any postings as to where they've landed (if anywhere yet). But in chatting with their parents, the boys very clearly they got the D1 exposure they were looking for vs. staying on their current team.
My son weighed the time and travel commitment of DAP against what else he was doing--part time job, second varsity sport, some other extracircular activities, demanding AP course load--and what he wanted out of college. Who knows if he could have even made one of the DAP teams, but he didn't bother to tryout. Instead he spent last spring and summer identifying what schools he wanted to go to and what programs he wanted to play for. And then instead of waiting for those coaches to reach out to him, he went to them--attending their camps, visiting them on campus, getting recommendations sent, following up. About two-thirds of the coaches he contacted had no interest. But because he was only talking to coaches at schools he really wanted to go to, a 33% hit rate still gave him several good choices. He will be attending and playing soccer next fall for a top D3 program at a school he would have wanted to go to even if soccer were not an option, so for him the non-DAP process was a total sucess. But I doubt he would have landed a D1 spot this way.Comment
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The point was not DAP across the country, but rather DAP in Massachusetts. Agree that DAP provides better access to D1 programs for anyone interested in attending school outside of New England of Mid-Atlantic States, however it seems that the non-DAP'ers are doing just as well as the DAP'ers with the schools the Class of 2011 seem to be heading to. We won't know the ultimate results until the final acceptances are in come April. However, it seems that many DAP'ers and non-DAP'ers in the class of 2011 are heading to D3 which may have been their plan all along. Not everyone, including some very good and highly acclaimed HS/Club players (DAP and Non-DAP) from this years Class of 2011, have a desire to play D1 College soccer. Many had D3 (NESCAC, UAA) or D2 (NE-10) as a desired college destination. It's no different than DAP vs non-DAP as a destination to play Club soccer--everyone has a individual preference based upon a number of personal factors. The bottom line is College choice should be more about the college and less about the soccer. Since very few of these boys will receive anything of significance of "Athletic Aid Scholarship" and this include those heading to D1, who cares where these boys end up attending college as long as they end up at their college destination of choice whether it be D1, D2 or D3 or not at all if they choose another path.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Of course you would say that, becaise DAP across the country, THE ENTIRE PROGRAM, completeky obliterates your argument. You want to pick out the tiny fraction of DAP that may make your argument. You can't do that. The program is the program. Same schedule, same policies, same trainings. Maybe you just want to pick on the local DAP as a way to flame your anti-Bolts passions.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
You want to slam the players in MA because they aren't as good as their colleagues in other parts of the country? Then be prepared to accept some part of the blame. You, and a significant number of other parents in MA, spend their kid's formative youth soccer years chasing a placing in MAPLE Blue or D1, and state cups (especially at younger age groups). You are more concerned over why the Andre Cup and Irwin Cup don't qualify as State Cups than you are about getting your kids the training they need at the younger age groups.Comment
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When all the decisions are in, WAY more DAP kids will have been recruited to play D1 and high level D3 soccer. Just like last year. And next year. And the year after that.......Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Does that mean that non DAP kids won't get recruited at these schools? No it doesn't. But the gap between DAP kids recruited and non DAP kids recruited will grow bigger every year because coaches will be putting increasingly more focus on DAP because of limited recruiting budgets.Comment
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Let's Review
Miller Bucknell
Buttersworth Holy Cross
Maqubela BC
Bielski UNH
Altneu UVM
DiFronzo BC
DeNormandie UCin
Goncalves Drexel
I'll leave off the RI kids.Comment
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for 2011 d1 commits so far we have 8 players (please correct if i missed anyone):
Boston College: TM, MD
Bucknell: JM
Cinncinnati: CD (not listed on espn rise, but it has been said he commited)
Drexel: MG
Holy Cross: AB
New Hampshire: CB
Vermont: BA
surprised there are not more mass kids going d1 considering we have a larger population than most, i doubt there will be many more added since it is almost the new year. it seems that only JM, CB, and AB committed before july 1, and the rest were later commits. Also, 6 of the 8 are DAP players.Comment
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any kids from western mass going d1? usually one or two but no one this year i guessComment
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CD is going to Cincy http://www.boston.com/sports/schools...andie_com.htmlOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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