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    As I said many moons ago (maybe in this thread?), I would hope that the two U11 teams teams playing up in U12 are NOT allowed to participate in the Andre Cup as a consequence of their playing in U12. They have the posibility to qualify for the Irwin Cup, just as any other U12 team per the already established and clearly defined qualification criteria. I cannot see how nor do I think MAPLE would alter the rules to allow it.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      As I said many moons ago (maybe in this thread?), I would hope that the two U11 teams teams playing up in U12 are NOT allowed to participate in the Andre Cup as a consequence of their playing in U12. They have the posibility to qualify for the Irwin Cup, just as any other U12 team per the already established and clearly defined qualification criteria. I cannot see how nor do I think MAPLE would alter the rules to allow it.
      This was taken from the MAPLE web site. It is what it is, but I would tend to agree with your assertion.
      Note: 2 teams who qualified for the Blue section are currently playing in U12. They will be seeded with the U11 Blue section.

      The top 6 teams from the Blue Section, plus the top team from the Green Section for a total of 9 teams.

      The remaining 7 teams will be determined as follows by playdown games to be arranged prior to the tournament. Seeding for the games will be done by section, with only the spring results counting.

      The 2 remaining team in the Blue Section
      The next 6 teams in the Green Section
      The 1st teams in the Navy, Orange, Purple, Red, White & Yellow Sections

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        Top – Nobody in the same league with these 2 teams yet.
        1 NEFC BB
        2 Stars D

        Middle – Could be anybodies game on any given day. Do not read into 1 or 2 game samples
        3 NEFC NB
        4 SSS LL (U11)
        5 Scorpions KD
        6 NH Classics
        7 SSS LL (U10)

        Bottom – Not enough talent to compete with the top 6 but will give them trouble on any given day
        8 Stars C
        9 PASA
        10 Fuller Hamlets
        11 Western United
        12 Crusaders

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          As I said many moons ago (maybe in this thread?), I would hope that the two U11 teams teams playing up in U12 are NOT allowed to participate in the Andre Cup as a consequence of their playing in U12. They have the posibility to qualify for the Irwin Cup, just as any other U12 team per the already established and clearly defined qualification criteria. I cannot see how nor do I think MAPLE would alter the rules to allow it.
          Maple will allow it, but as far as I know NEFC will not be participating.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Maple will allow it, but as far as I know NEFC will not be participating.
            BB NEFC has been about building their resume for the last 2+ years. How would a 5th place finish in the Irwin cup(if they'd even qualify) look regardless if their playing up. NEFC is leaving maple and I'm sure they'd like nothing better than to win their tournament on the way out the door. They came close last year and I would expect them to come back and win it this time. I personally would not make them the favorite however as the Stars are playing very good soccer. The only hope for one of the other teams would be if stars and NEFC BB met in an earlier round and knocked the other out. That would depend on the seeding. I dont think it's fair to seed the teams playing up u12 in the top six. Jmo

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              BB NEFC has been about building their resume for the last 2+ years. How would a 5th place finish in the Irwin cup(if they'd even qualify) look regardless if their playing up. NEFC is leaving maple and I'm sure they'd like nothing better than to win their tournament on the way out the door. They came close last year and I would expect them to come back and win it this time. I personally would not make them the favorite however as the Stars are playing very good soccer. The only hope for one of the other teams would be if stars and NEFC BB met in an earlier round and knocked the other out. That would depend on the seeding. I dont think it's fair to seed the teams playing up u12 in the top six. Jmo
              They don't care about the Andre Cup or the Irwin Cup. Nobody expects them to win the Irwin Cup, but if they qualify, good for them. They haven't been building a resume, they've been seeking out high level competition, just as all of the top MA U11/U12 teams have done for the past decade.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Maple will allow it, but as far as I know NEFC will not be participating.
                They are eligible KI has already posted them on MAPLE site.

                But NEFC BB might choose not to come and revert back to 8v8

                Green Division Last place team is ineligible for Andre Cup.
                This might change if NEFC BB does not enter the ANDRE CUP as has been mentioned on TS
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                Blue Division games this weekend

                Stars C vs Classics - Many think Classics wil beat the Stars, I think Stars get the win

                Crusaders vs Scorpions - Tough spot for Crusaders to meet Scorpions after two loses this week look for KD girls to rebound with a win

                SSelect vs Pasa - Pasa finally found the goal last week vs Crusaders, Select will struggle to shutdown Pasa big forward (2-1 Pasa)

                Stars D vs. NEFC (Nick-less team) will be dominated by JD girls 5-1 Stars

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                Couple of Key games left in Green before top spot is determined

                Fuller vs. Western United - Green Division game of the week

                Crusaders with two loses looks to be 3rd at best or dropping to middle of Green lose to NEFC G team

                North shore a physical team that can score should be able to beat a nice under 10 Scorpions team playing up with a good keeper

                Benifica vs Sachem - win should go to Benifica, their two strong physical girls carry this team to the win this week.
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                Navy
                1) Bayside
                2) Vikings
                3) Aztecs (lose to Bayside hurts tie breaker scenario)
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                Orange
                1) Galway big game week 6 vs NEFC G
                2) NEFC G lose to FC NAPOLI could cost them division
                3) Explosion big game for them vs NEFC G this week - need win to garner
                chance at top spot
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                Purple
                1) NEFC B - run the table to be Top Dog
                2) Smithfield - still have both NEFC teams to play - need to win both
                3) NEFC M - already lost to NEFC B, needs some help
                ===================================
                Red
                1) Looks like one horse race Scorpions West wins
                if they continue to get it done like first 4 weeks

                ===================================
                White
                1) Aztecs - get two of the weaker teams, plus explosion in next three
                2) Explosion play three tough games 2nd, 3rd, 4th need to get it done or
                get caught from behind
                3) Fuller (b) - have Aztecs, Explosion, plus two weaker teams, they need to
                win both games vs Aztec/Explosion
                ===================================
                Yellow
                Blackwatch, Stars B, Red Thunder all can score and are not giving up goals
                Still up for grabs..

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                  Why wouldn't they be interested in the best u11 teams in a tournament? Is that not great competition playing the stars, scorpions, western or any of the top teams or are they just too good at this point? Maybe they should go back to Arizona and beat those teams up again I'm sure that was great competition. For a team not interested in building a resume they sure list every one on their website.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I dont think it's fair to seed the teams playing up u12 in the top six. Jmo
                    I think seeds for those two if they choose to come will be 7 & 8, then 9 to top Green team

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      They don't care about the Andre Cup or the Irwin Cup. Nobody expects them to win the Irwin Cup, but if they qualify, good for them. They haven't been building a resume, they've been seeking out high level competition, just as all of the top MA U11/U12 teams have done for the past decade.
                      REPOST below From ECNL thread (Under 11 NEFC BB team RESUME) not that there is anything wrong with that.

                      Mar 2011 Jefferson Cup (VA) ~ U11 Championship Finalist
                      Jan 2011 Sereno Soccer Classic (AZ) ~ U11 Champion
                      Sep-Nov 2010 Fall Maple ~ U11 White 1st Place
                      Sep 2010 Stars Cup (MA) ~ U11 Premiership Champions
                      Aug 2010 Spirit Kick-Off Classic (PA) ~ U11 Championship Champions

                      U10 Team History (2009-2010)
                      Jul 2010 Seaside Classic (RI) ~ U11 Champions
                      Jun 2010 KC Andre Cup ~ Finalist
                      May 2010 Delta FC Invitational (MA) ~ U11 Premier Finalist
                      Mar 2010 NEFC Preseason (MA) ~ U11 Premier Champions
                      Mar 2010 Jefferson Cup (VA) ~ U10 Championship Semi-Finalist
                      Sep-Nov 2009 Fall Maple ~ U11 White 1st Place
                      Oct 2009 Nashua World Cup (NH) ~ U11 Classic Champions
                      Sep 2009 Stars Cup (MA) ~ U10 Premiership Champions
                      Aug 2009 Spirit Kick-Off Classic (PA) ~ U10 Elite Champions

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        REPOST below From ECNL thread (Under 11 NEFC BB team RESUME) not that there is anything wrong with that.

                        Mar 2011 Jefferson Cup (VA) ~ U11 Championship Finalist
                        Jan 2011 Sereno Soccer Classic (AZ) ~ U11 Champion
                        Sep-Nov 2010 Fall Maple ~ U11 White 1st Place
                        Sep 2010 Stars Cup (MA) ~ U11 Premiership Champions
                        Aug 2010 Spirit Kick-Off Classic (PA) ~ U11 Championship Champions

                        U10 Team History (2009-2010)
                        Jul 2010 Seaside Classic (RI) ~ U11 Champions
                        Jun 2010 KC Andre Cup ~ Finalist
                        May 2010 Delta FC Invitational (MA) ~ U11 Premier Finalist
                        Mar 2010 NEFC Preseason (MA) ~ U11 Premier Champions
                        Mar 2010 Jefferson Cup (VA) ~ U10 Championship Semi-Finalist
                        Sep-Nov 2009 Fall Maple ~ U11 White 1st Place
                        Oct 2009 Nashua World Cup (NH) ~ U11 Classic Champions
                        Sep 2009 Stars Cup (MA) ~ U10 Premiership Champions
                        Aug 2009 Spirit Kick-Off Classic (PA) ~ U10 Elite Champions
                        Arizona for a U11 team???

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why wouldn't they be interested in the best u11 teams in a tournament? Is that not great competition playing the stars, scorpions, western or any of the top teams or are they just too good at this point? Maybe they should go back to Arizona and beat those teams up again I'm sure that was great competition. For a team not interested in building a resume they sure list every one on their website.
                          Why wouldn't they list team accomplishments on the team webpage? Every team does that. You obviously have a hair across your *** for the team. Sorry to hear that.

                          It doesn't make sense for the team to switch to 11v11 and then come back to 8v8 just to play in the Andre Cup. I can see it now. If they do play in the A. Cup all of the T-S experts (like yourself) will be going on about how they are just trying to "build their resume".

                          If they don't play, you'll say they think they are too good. If they do play, you'll claim that it's ridiculous how they switched to 11v11 and then came back to U11 just for the Andre Cup. Get over it and let the team do as it pleases.

                          As for AZ, get over that too. The team had no idea the top teams from CA and AZ would use that weekend to start their 11v11 play. They were listed with the U11 teams on the website prior to the tournament. By the way, NEFC still played against the top team from Sereno and won. You can't find that on gotsoccer though, so you wouldn't know. The fact that you are checking up on another team that closely is scary enough. Your obsession is not healthy

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                            Of course as long as the kids enjoy it now, and parents are willing to agree to time committment I see no problems. Just wondering how many of the girls on this current team--unquestionably excellent players-will play in HS, college? How many will decide they prefer another sport? How important is it to be a great player at 10 or 11 years old? What is the long term translation...

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                              It doesn't make sense for the team to switch to 11v11 and then come back to 8v8 just to play in the Andre Cup.
                              Agreed, once they made switch no reason to come back and muddle up the jump they got on the age group.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                REPOST below From ECNL thread (Under 11 NEFC BB team RESUME) not that there is anything wrong with that.

                                Mar 2011 Jefferson Cup (VA) ~ U11 Championship Finalist
                                Jan 2011 Sereno Soccer Classic (AZ) ~ U11 Champion
                                Sep-Nov 2010 Fall Maple ~ U11 White 1st Place
                                Sep 2010 Stars Cup (MA) ~ U11 Premiership Champions
                                Aug 2010 Spirit Kick-Off Classic (PA) ~ U11 Championship Champions

                                U10 Team History (2009-2010)
                                Jul 2010 Seaside Classic (RI) ~ U11 Champions
                                Jun 2010 KC Andre Cup ~ Finalist
                                May 2010 Delta FC Invitational (MA) ~ U11 Premier Finalist
                                Mar 2010 NEFC Preseason (MA) ~ U11 Premier Champions
                                Mar 2010 Jefferson Cup (VA) ~ U10 Championship Semi-Finalist
                                Sep-Nov 2009 Fall Maple ~ U11 White 1st Place
                                Oct 2009 Nashua World Cup (NH) ~ U11 Classic Champions
                                Sep 2009 Stars Cup (MA) ~ U10 Premiership Champions
                                Aug 2009 Spirit Kick-Off Classic (PA) ~ U10 Elite Champions
                                U11 tournaments attended by Scorpions U18 ECNL
                                Spirit United
                                Bandit Cup
                                WAGS
                                Jefferson Cup
                                FC Delco

                                U11 tournaments attended by Scorpions U16 ECNL
                                San Diego Surf Cup
                                Wallingford Twist
                                Stars Cup
                                WAGS
                                Jefferson Cup
                                FC Delco

                                Before going after this team as if this is unheard of, you folks should check your history.

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