Talent Consolidation and "Destination" Teams

the Bs (see the Bolts and FC United U13B merger this year) tend to move more quickly than the Gs?

What does this say about the boys side? If true, it is an example of the stupidity that exists out there since boys mature more slowly then girls.

It's not what makes them ready to play soccer, it's what makes them ready to move. The social aspect is just more fungible for boys - in general.

My son's major social group at any given time is whomever he's playing sports with that season. (That does not mean he doesn't have a group of other friends but this is in addition) My daughter develops deeper and longer lasting friendships on her teams and those are the ties that bind.

Not sure your point, but in most cases it is the parents, whether the parents of boys or the parents of girls, determining what teams their children play. It would appear that the parents of boys are quicker to change teams then the parents of girls.

Okay this is a se xist remark, but oh well - it seems to me that there are more hotheaded and overagressive dads on the boys side than on the girls side of things. Realize this is a gross overgeneralization, but having a child of each gender and watching the parents on all their teams, there tend to be more pushy parents on the boys side and more dads driving things on the boys side than the girls. So it could be more of a ready, fire, aim on the boys side than a slower ready, aim, fire for the girls. The girls might balk about a move more than a boy would or the dad might just not push his girl as hard. I know there are exceptions to this, but it's what I see happening. Lots of dads pacing the sidelines at the BU11 game or yelling at the refs. A few moms getting hyper, but more often than not chatting it up with the other moms (or the more relaxed dads).

the Bs (see the Bolts and FC United U13B merger this year) tend to move more quickly than the Gs?

What does this say about the boys side? If true, it is an example of the stupidity that exists out there since boys mature more slowly then girls.

It's not what makes them ready to play soccer, it's what makes them ready to move. The social aspect is just more fungible for boys - in general.

My son's major social group at any given time is whomever he's playing sports with that season. (That does not mean he doesn't have a group of other friends but this is in addition) My daughter develops deeper and longer lasting friendships on her teams and those are the ties that bind.

Not sure your point, but in most cases it is the parents, whether the parents of boys or the parents of girls, determining what teams their children play. It would appear that the parents of boys are quicker to change teams then the parents of girls.

Okay this is a se xist remark, but oh well - it seems to me that there are more hotheaded and overagressive dads on the boys side than on the girls side of things. Realize this is a gross overgeneralization, but having a child of each gender and watching the parents on all their teams, there tend to be more pushy parents on the boys side and more dads driving things on the boys side than the girls. So it could be more of a ready, fire, aim on the boys side than a slower ready, aim, fire for the girls. The girls might balk about a move more than a boy would or the dad might just not push his girl as hard. I know there are exceptions to this, but it's what I see happening. Lots of dads pacing the sidelines at the BU11 game or yelling at the refs. A few moms getting hyper, but more often than not chatting it up with the other moms (or the more relaxed dads).

I've met just as many nasty, venemous mothers of soccer playing daughters. It's not a se xist thing at all.

[ For the U14 and U15 Stars teams there are still some quality players at other clubs that have not moved over (I assume U14 is considered "early").

What a statement

Laughy face response -- did you really mean to imply that there are no quality players at the U14 and U15 age group on other Massachusetts club teams because if they were quality players they would be at the Stars??!! That can't possibly be what you are saying.......

Thats exactly what was implied but not by the poster who posted the laughy face.

Posts like that are creating a bad rep for the Stars....Jason would be
p!ssed. But thats ok because all these 'fabulous' Stars players will be playing right alongside the rest of the world (Those who are Non-Stars) and grow up to think their crap doesnt stink. What goes around comes around.

[ For the U14 and U15 Stars teams there are still some quality players at other clubs that have not moved over (I assume U14 is considered "early").

What a statement

Laughy face response -- did you really mean to imply that there are no quality players at the U14 and U15 age group on other Massachusetts club teams because if they were quality players they would be at the Stars??!! That can't possibly be what you are saying.......

yes. maybe 1 or 2

I thought I had seen it all when it came to over-the-top soccer parents posting on this forum, but this one truly takes the cake. Hopefully you are not serious (and are not a Stars parent) because if so I feel very sorry for you (and your kids) (not to mention your poor reflection on a quality club).

Altogether now, the rest of the sane people here: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

Amen!

My child was the driving force in a recent team change. Wasn't happy with the style of play, playing time, and team dynamics.

Mom and Dad didn't agree, but supported the decision. To date kid is right. :?

Darn.

I hate so say this but I very much doubt a Stars parent wrote this stuff. You cannot judge any club on here because we have really no idea who is posting what. This is probably someone trying to cause trouble for Stars. It is no different than someone trying to cause trouble for Scorpions on another thread. Someone posing as an MPS coach for a GK.

But thats ok because all these 'fabulous' Stars players will be playing right alongside the rest of the world (Those who are Non-Stars) and grow up to think their crap doesnt stink. What goes around comes around.

This is an absolutely disgracefull statement. People have such an agenda on this forum against certain clubs. Its amazing what some vile parents will post. These are kids just like yours. This forum needs to be closed down. Moderater you need to start stepping in.

My child was the driving force in a recent team change. Wasn't happy with the style of play, playing time, and team dynamics.

Mom and Dad didn't agree, but supported the decision. To date kid is right.

Darn.

Sounds very suspicious and/or very egotistical. You're saying your child was the driving force behind a team change, Mom and Dad didn't agree with child's assessment of the issues but supported the decision anyway while knowing that child would be driving force and impact everyone else?

Posts like that are creating a bad rep for the Stars

Thats exactly the point. Posts on this forum are by people who have nothing to do with the club and want to create a bad rep for the club they mention. Its no different for Stars, Scorps, MPS or Bolts. Just a bunch of jealous people trying to cause trouble. The best thing is to not reply to them. On a daily basis this forum goes downhill and the posts get more and more vindictive to individuals and clubs. Something has to be done or it will just be closed down like the Gotsoccer forum recently was.

Although our child had a few valid concerns that had already been discussed by them with the coach and DOC, Mom and Dad wanted them to stick it out. It was an emotional and complicated decision.

Don't assume our child's move had a huge impact on the old team. Our kid isn't Pele or Mia.

"I hate so say this but I very much doubt a Stars parent wrote this stuff."

I agree. Both teams have classy and reasonable groups of parents who have unfailingly demonstrated respect and good sportsmanship to our teams.

This is the third thread that went this direction in as many days and people - who hate to admit it - have in fact admitted that these postings are unlikely to be by Stars parents. This started with a post buried in a paragraph about a boys team!!!!!!

Good luck to all the players this spring.

This is the third thread that went this direction in as many days and people - who hate to admit it - have in fact admitted that these postings are unlikely to be by Stars parents. This started with a post buried in a paragraph about a boys team!!!!!!

Good luck to all the players this spring.

The people "who hate to admit it" comment was directed at the post you quoted Fred - not you. I was posting at the same time as you and didn't see your post until I was done. You have always been an example of decorum on these forums.

For the U14 and U15 Stars teams there are still some quality players at other clubs that have not moved over (I assume U14 is considered "early").

Everyone spends so much time defending and correcting others I can not keep track of what you are complaining about. I made the above original post - if it upset others I am sorry. I can not tell if this is the post people are complaining about or not. This post is buried among a post about a lot of teams and clubs, it has nothing specific to say about the Stars club.

that have not moved over does not mean that they will move over. My point is that if they do not move over, than the Stars teams are not Destination Teams (that was the original thread subject). The Stars team could be a great team, a national championship team, but it would not, IMHO, be a Destination Team because the success would not have been achieved through a lot of player transfers. I wrote that a Destination team, IMHO, is a team of All-Stars from various clubs that come together to form a super team. The U17B Blazers is very close to that type of team, IMHO, because they consistently beat every other team in the State, and compete very well Regionally.

Now someone is going to argue that Destination Teams are not ideal and if the Stars, or any other club, can form, train and win at the Regional and National level without a lot of transfers, than that is a preferred team building format. OK that might be right, but that is not what the thread was set up to discuss. Like or dislike Destination Teams, the thread is about what a Destination Team is or isn't, the thread was not set up to discuss what is the preferred team building format, so I am not commenting on my preferred team building format, only what I think a Destination Team is.

I know Fred and Guests are well intentioned, but constant praise is as distracting as the constant jabs. Let's avoid all personal comments, well intentioned or not, and just discuss soccer. Let's also assume that the other posters are well intentioned, are attempting to post intelligent responses, and ignore all personal comments, nice comments or otherwise. In the old Touchline the posters registered, and assumed the best of each other and did not have to criticize or praise each other. If you look at this Talking-Soccer forum there are a lot more posts due to the Guest option, but although the volume of posts have increased, the volume of constructive, informed, intelligent soccer posts has decreased.

Understood...and thank you...