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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    yes if t means they dont have to go to adult lockup

    thats why clinton signed the law

    There is no Federal law that requires children to be separated from their parents.

    Go back a few posts and see the snopes link.


    The truth shall set you free.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Obama only started his catch and release after his admin released 2000 held minors to human traffickers
      Dem law

      who do you think built the internment camps?
      Dem built

      now your bitching because a REP does a good job enforcing your law- **** off

      Chucky shumer voted for it as well
      Prove this.

      Where are the facts or links that backup your statements here?

      Show us the law.

      Show us the factual evidence that proves President Obama released 2000 kids to human traffickers.

      Show us the evidence that these detention places were built by Democrats.

      Just show us the proof. Otherwise you are just spreading fake news.

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        DT will weasel into a different policy very soon. When he loses support of his base, he changes tactics and blames Hil or BO or the FBI. Just wait, at some point soon this will all be blamed on the FBI.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          DT will weasel into a different policy very soon. When he loses support of his base, he changes tactics and blames Hil or BO or the FBI. Just wait, at some point soon this will all be blamed on the FBI.
          Blue lives matter.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            DT will weasel into a different policy very soon. When he loses support of his base, he changes tactics and blames Hil or BO or the FBI. Just wait, at some point soon this will all be blamed on the FBI.
            And cnn will get their share of blmae as well!

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Prove this.

              Where are the facts or links that backup your statements here?

              Show us the law.

              Show us the factual evidence that proves President Obama released 2000 kids to human traffickers.

              Show us the evidence that these detention places were built by Democrats.

              Just show us the proof. Otherwise you are just spreading fake news.
              Obama built camps so that minors could stay with their parents. they did not separate them, however, some children did arrive unaccompanied. If kids are unaccompanied are supposed to only be kept for a maximum of 21 days and either released to the care of a family member or approved other adult or foster care

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Blue lives matter.
                Space force

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  i am happy to follow the Constitution its worked pretty well so far

                  you want him to roll on Trump so you will go to any length- no surprise ,he IG report is full of the same kind of people who would do anything for their desired outco,
                  me- hasnt worked out well for them
                  the IG report just hammered any obstruction case Mueller had

                  I don't care if he rolls on Trump or not.

                  All I care is that those who committed crimes are found out and brought to justice.

                  If Trump committed a crime and Manafort rolls on him, so be it. If Trump did not commit a crime, so be it.

                  The vastly significant and prevailing legal minds contradict you on the IG report and Mueller. They are saying it just touches on the edge of that investigation. We shall see when Mueller releases his final report.

                  I don't need Trump to commit a crime for me to have issues with him. He's a compulsive liar. He looks right in the camera and lies to you and you just roll with it. He's a racist at worst, a bigot at best. He cares only for the elite despite what he says. His personal vanity clouds his objective reason. He personally attacks American individuals, using his power of the bully pulpit. He is morally corrupt. He's a poor leader and his actions are quite likely to put us into another war or crush our economy through a tariff battle with our allies and China. The man is trying to revive the coal industry and through his minion Pruitt, is setting back our march to a better and cleaner environment back to the 1970s.

                  We defang him in November. We eliminate him in 2020.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There is no Federal law that requires children to be separated from their parents.

                    Go back a few posts and see the snopes link.


                    The truth shall set you free.
                    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa..._medium=social


                    There is no federal law that stipulates that children and parents be separated at the border, no matter how families entered the United States. An increase in child detainees separated from parents stemmed directly from a change in enforcement policy repeatedly announced by Sessions in April and May 2018, under which adults (with or without children) are criminally prosecuted for attempting to enter the United States:
                    The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents.

                    Claims that the “law to separate families” was passed in 1997, those claims originated with a February 2018 Department of Homeland Security statement referencing “[l]egal loopholes [that] are exploited by minors, family units, and human smugglers.” The DHS statement claimed existing immigration policies “create a pull factor that invites more illegal immigration and encourages parents to pay and entrust their children to criminal organizations.”


                    However, neither the 1997 Flores settlement nor a 2008 human trafficking law cited in that release in any way stipulated that the government separate children from their parents:

                    A White House spokesman referred [Factcheck.org] to a DHS statement regarding a 1997 legal settlement and 2008 antitrafficking law affecting minors who are apprehended without a parent present:

                    Under the 1997 settlement, DHS could detain unaccompanied children captured at the border for only 20 days before releasing them to foster families, shelters or sponsors, pending resolution of their immigration cases. The settlement was later expanded through other court rulings to include both unaccompanied and accompanied children.

                    The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 requires unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada to be placed in the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, or relatives in the U.S., while they go through removal proceedings. The bipartisan bill was approved by unanimous consent and signed by Bush.

                    But neither the court settlement nor the 2008 law require the Trump administration to “break up families.”

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I don't care if he rolls on Trump or not.

                      All I care is that those who committed crimes are found out and brought to justice.

                      If Trump committed a crime and Manafort rolls on him, so be it. If Trump did not commit a crime, so be it.

                      The vastly significant and prevailing legal minds contradict you on the IG report and Mueller. They are saying it just touches on the edge of that investigation. We shall see when Mueller releases his final report.

                      I don't need Trump to commit a crime for me to have issues with him. He's a compulsive liar. He looks right in the camera and lies to you and you just roll with it. He's a racist at worst, a bigot at best. He cares only for the elite despite what he says. His personal vanity clouds his objective reason. He personally attacks American individuals, using his power of the bully pulpit. He is morally corrupt. He's a poor leader and his actions are quite likely to put us into another war or crush our economy through a tariff battle with our allies and China. The man is trying to revive the coal industry and through his minion Pruitt, is setting back our march to a better and cleaner environment back to the 1970s.

                      We defang him in November. We eliminate him in 2020.
                      Well said. I didn't vote for him not because I loved HRC but because didn't think he would make a good president. I even tried to give him the benefit of the doubt after the election. That only lasted a few weeks. He's proven to be even worse than ever imagined. And for those shouting about how great the economy is, both Republicans and Democrats have had had great economies and lousy ones. No party has a lock on how to run an economy. It's all about leadership. The current toddler in chief isn't a leader. He's a bully who won't even listen to his advisors.

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                        Holy chit, my 401k is getting whacked!

                        MAGA

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Holy chit, my 401k is getting whacked!

                          MAGA
                          Back to that? Good luck

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa..._medium=social


                            There is no federal law that stipulates that children and parents be separated at the border, no matter how families entered the United States. An increase in child detainees separated from parents stemmed directly from a change in enforcement policy repeatedly announced by Sessions in April and May 2018, under which adults (with or without children) are criminally prosecuted for attempting to enter the United States:
                            The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents.

                            Claims that the “law to separate families” was passed in 1997, those claims originated with a February 2018 Department of Homeland Security statement referencing “[l]egal loopholes [that] are exploited by minors, family units, and human smugglers.” The DHS statement claimed existing immigration policies “create a pull factor that invites more illegal immigration and encourages parents to pay and entrust their children to criminal organizations.”


                            However, neither the 1997 Flores settlement nor a 2008 human trafficking law cited in that release in any way stipulated that the government separate children from their parents:

                            A White House spokesman referred [Factcheck.org] to a DHS statement regarding a 1997 legal settlement and 2008 antitrafficking law affecting minors who are apprehended without a parent present:

                            Under the 1997 settlement, DHS could detain unaccompanied children captured at the border for only 20 days before releasing them to foster families, shelters or sponsors, pending resolution of their immigration cases. The settlement was later expanded through other court rulings to include both unaccompanied and accompanied children.

                            The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 requires unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada to be placed in the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, or relatives in the U.S., while they go through removal proceedings. The bipartisan bill was approved by unanimous consent and signed by Bush.

                            But neither the court settlement nor the 2008 law require the Trump administration to “break up families.”

                            While you are technically correct about separation at the border
                            Those caught illegally entering the us are facing criminal charges- they are therefore taken into custody and held
                            There are federal laws that determine age requirements and gender requirements on how and who you can incarcerate together
                            The children are not being charged but have no custodian that is legal in the US so instead of releasing them they become wards until their parents get adjudicated

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              While you are technically correct about separation at the border
                              Those caught illegally entering the us are facing criminal charges- they are therefore taken into custody and held
                              There are federal laws that determine age requirements and gender requirements on how and who you can incarcerate together
                              The children are not being charged but have no custodian that is legal in the US so instead of releasing them they become wards until their parents get adjudicated
                              All that is blah blah blah for inflicting trauma on kids to try to discourage migration to the US. Many think this is fine and many are outraged. That is the crux of it. We will see how it affect the way people vote.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don't care if he rolls on Trump or not.

                                All I care is that those who committed crimes are found out and brought to justice.

                                If Trump committed a crime and Manafort rolls on him, so be it. If Trump did not commit a crime, so be it.

                                The vastly significant and prevailing legal minds contradict you on the IG report and Mueller. They are saying it just touches on the edge of that investigation. We shall see when Mueller releases his final report.

                                I don't need Trump to commit a crime for me to have issues with him. He's a compulsive liar. He looks right in the camera and lies to you and you just roll with it. He's a racist at worst, a bigot at best. He cares only for the elite despite what he says. His personal vanity clouds his objective reason. He personally attacks American individuals, using his power of the bully pulpit. He is morally corrupt. He's a poor leader and his actions are quite likely to put us into another war or crush our economy through a tariff battle with our allies and China. The man is trying to revive the coal industry and through his minion Pruitt, is setting back our march to a better and cleaner environment back to the 1970s.

                                We defang him in November. We eliminate him in 2020.
                                Legal minds? How about just listen to the IG
                                Not some talking head with an agenda
                                He killed comey and stated he deserved to be fired- the whole basis for obstruction
                                He found tons of bias in both investigations- a Nono for the FBI
                                And he has either strozk or McCabe lying about the same meeting

                                Not too hard to connect the dots- btw he isnt done he just answered 2 questions
                                He has more questions to answer

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