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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ironically the same argument that the pro gun lobby would make. Hard to stop people hell bent on mayhem and murder. So your stance seems like a gun grab pure and simple. Just a simple anti gun stance.
    Nope noone is taking your guns. The point was good guns with guns aren't an effective deterrent

    Need to find other ways to protect our kids

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The difference is the teacher is already in harms way. If he/she doesn’t act, then he/she could be a statistic.

      The puzzy rent a cops were not in harms way and didn’t want to put themselves in harms way to save lives.

      Sad, but a teacher did make the ultimate sacrifice for his students. Imagine if he was armed instead of unarmed. Even if he only saved one life, that makes the whole state investment worth it, escpecially if it is your kid. Add the saved life to the court/ jail savings because that little faggit wouldn’t be alive and that would be worth it
      Except they weren't rent a cops. They were real cops

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Nope noone is taking your guns. The point was good guns with guns aren't an effective deterrent

        Need to find other ways to protect our kids
        Actually not a gun owner. Yet. Just makes no sense to think making guns illegal will be a solution. You yourself have stated that those with murderous intent are not easily deterred. Additionally criminals don’t not follow laws by definition.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Except they weren't rent a cops. They were real cops
          Don’t worry the sheriff is “investigating”. Kid probably ran out of ammo. Otherwise more would have died. See something, say something, do nothing.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Actually not a gun owner. Yet. Just makes no sense to think making guns illegal will be a solution. You yourself have stated that those with murderous intent are not easily deterred. Additionally criminals don’t not follow laws by definition.
            So let's have no laws

            Yes good guys with a guns aren't deterrents. Doesn't mean there's nothing we can't do.

            - invest in mental health
            - reinstate AWB
            - close the loop holes on gun registry
            - no fly no buy
            - limit magazine capacity
            - make it harder for people with mental health issues to get guns
            - make it harder for people with restraining orders to get or keep guns
            - require insurance for all guns
            - no bump stocks
            - universal gun laws so guns don't flow from state to state as easy

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Don’t worry the sheriff is “investigating”. Kid probably ran out of ammo. Otherwise more would have died. See something, say something, do nothing.
              No he had a backpack full of ammo. For whatever reason he stopped and decided to slip out the with students evacuating the building; he looked like any other student. If could have been far worse than it already was.

              Some European countries like Sweden, Norway and Switzerland have high gun ownership rates, but sensible laws and a different cultural attitude towards guns (hunting the vast majority, much less for protection as they all have very low crime rates). Besides licensure and testing, owners are restricted to certain types of weapons and how many they can own. Guns can only be bought at licensed shops with background checks. A license to carry has to have a police approved reason for it. Ammo purchases are tracked (just in case - if you see someone buying massive amounts of ammo it is not going to be for a good reason). One of our biggest issues is laws vary so much state to state, making it easy to just drive to the next state to buy. There's no national database to track purchases or guns or ammunition.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                So let's have no laws

                Yes good guys with a guns aren't deterrents. Doesn't mean there's nothing we can't do.

                - invest in mental health
                - reinstate AWB
                - close the loop holes on gun registry
                - no fly no buy
                - limit magazine capacity
                - make it harder for people with mental health issues to get guns
                - make it harder for people with restraining orders to get or keep guns
                - require insurance for all guns
                - no bump stocks
                - universal gun laws so guns don't flow from state to state as easy
                No one under 21 can own one unless it is stored at a licensed gun range. If you can't drink, you can't shoot.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So let's have no laws

                  Yes good guys with a guns aren't deterrents. Doesn't mean there's nothing we can't do.

                  - invest in mental health
                  - reinstate AWB
                  - close the loop holes on gun registry
                  - no fly no buy
                  - limit magazine capacity
                  - make it harder for people with mental health issues to get guns
                  - make it harder for people with restraining orders to get or keep guns
                  - require insurance for all guns
                  - no bump stocks
                  - universal gun laws so guns don't flow from state to state as easy
                  What exactly does invest in mental health have to do as a deterrent? Expletive reported this kid to fbi. He was never recommended by his guardians for a mental health evaluation. Do you propose having every one report annually to a shrink so that hey can be evaluated? Who pays that bill? The patient, ins co, state? Now that he is a killer, he is under the review of a mental health professional. That is too late. We are down 17 young sane kids.

                  All your recommendations can be summed up as just having the tooth fairy watch out over kids. How does having the insurance for a gun save lives? What happens when someone drops the insurance. Are you going to have a big govt bureaucracy keep track of who has active insurance and send people door to door looking for people and guns to enforce? What exactly is the insurance co going to cover? If a gun owner shoots up a school, they will pay off families of dead kids? How does that stop the violence? I don’t want the money if my kid is killed. I want my kid back alive or the perp dead. Option 1 isn’t happening, so hopefully the liberal states allow #2 to happen

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    What exactly does invest in mental health have to do as a deterrent? Expletive reported this kid to fbi. He was never recommended by his guardians for a mental health evaluation. Do you propose having every one report annually to a shrink so that hey can be evaluated? Who pays that bill? The patient, ins co, state? Now that he is a killer, he is under the review of a mental health professional. That is too late. We are down 17 young sane kids.

                    All your recommendations can be summed up as just having the tooth fairy watch out over kids. How does having the insurance for a gun save lives? What happens when someone drops the insurance. Are you going to have a big govt bureaucracy keep track of who has active insurance and send people door to door looking for people and guns to enforce? What exactly is the insurance co going to cover? If a gun owner shoots up a school, they will pay off families of dead kids? How does that stop the violence? I don’t want the money if my kid is killed. I want my kid back alive or the perp dead. Option 1 isn’t happening, so hopefully the liberal states allow #2 to happen
                    Investment in mental health is the ultimate deterrent. If this kid had gotten real help we may not have had this tragedy

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      What exactly does invest in mental health have to do as a deterrent? Expletive reported this kid to fbi. He was never recommended by his guardians for a mental health evaluation. Do you propose having every one report annually to a shrink so that hey can be evaluated? Who pays that bill? The patient, ins co, state? Now that he is a killer, he is under the review of a mental health professional. That is too late. We are down 17 young sane kids.

                      All your recommendations can be summed up as just having the tooth fairy watch out over kids. How does having the insurance for a gun save lives? What happens when someone drops the insurance. Are you going to have a big govt bureaucracy keep track of who has active insurance and send people door to door looking for people and guns to enforce? What exactly is the insurance co going to cover? If a gun owner shoots up a school, they will pay off families of dead kids? How does that stop the violence? I don’t want the money if my kid is killed. I want my kid back alive or the perp dead. Option 1 isn’t happening, so hopefully the liberal states allow #2 to happen
                      Let's hear some of your recommendations big Internet tough guy

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The government can just raise taxes......
                        You mean the same government that just gave "the greatest tax break in tax break history"?

                        You mean the same government that is proposing an infrastructure tax and raising the tax on gasoline by 13 cents a gallon to pay for all the roads and bridges?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You mean the same government that just gave "the greatest tax break in tax break history"?

                          You mean the same government that is proposing an infrastructure tax and raising the tax on gasoline by 13 cents a gallon to pay for all the roads and bridges?
                          And forcing state governments who are already indebted to assist in paying for the infrastructure costs

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You mean the same government that just gave "the greatest tax break in tax break history to the wealthy and coporations"?

                            You mean the same government that is proposing an infrastructure tax and raising the tax on gasoline by 13 cents a gallon to pay for all the roads and bridges? The same infrastructure plan in which the Feds pay for virtually nothing and states have to pay 80%+?
                            Had to fix both lines for you.

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                              Democratic reply memo has been released.

                              Not a good day to be a boot-licking Con Troll. Sorry your hero Nunez got you all excited for nothing!

                              https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...ratic-memo.pdf

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Democratic reply memo has been released.

                                Not a good day to be a boot-licking Con Troll. Sorry your hero Nunez got you all excited for nothing!

                                https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...ratic-memo.pdf
                                the new judge in the flynn case requested all of Mueller's evidence because he didnt trust that he would get it all if he just asked for the exculpatory

                                his review will decide who in this fight with the FBI is correct

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