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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Because Trump and Republicans have insane positions. Of course a neutral would gravitate to positions that represent sanity, logic, reason, commonsense, compassion, and patriotism.
    You dropped your neutrality facade pretty damn quick. Thanks for playing. I know you don’t watch TV (wink) but guessing you have CNN and MSNBC saved to your favorites.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You dropped your neutrality facade pretty damn quick. Thanks for playing. I know you don’t watch TV (wink) but guessing you have CNN and MSNBC saved to your favorites.
      Oh, I'm not that guy. I'm another neutral.

      Also, do you know why Fox News is banned in some countries?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Because Trump and Republicans have insane positions. Of course a neutral would gravitate to positions that represent sanity, logic, reason, commonsense, compassion, and patriotism.
        Name one insane position?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Oh, I'm not that guy. I'm another neutral.

          Also, do you know why Fox News is banned in some countries?
          Because most of the rest of the world is socialist.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You dropped your neutrality facade pretty damn quick. Thanks for playing. I know you don’t watch TV (wink) but guessing you have CNN and MSNBC saved to your favorites.
            You got the wrong guy, but I guess you have special powers that allow you to see who posts on an anonymous board. And i do not watch TV, and it is a blessing. You should try it sometime (wink).

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Name one insane position?
              That cars are the same as guns and if you ban guns you should ban cars.
              That teachers, who Republicans don't want to pay and don't want to teach, should now be armed counterterrorist responders.
              That assault rifles are the same as every other gun, such as bolt-action or muzzle loaders, and only have decorative trappings that do not aid in their function.
              That banning semiautomatics won't make these guns unavailable.
              That there should be no laws, because criminals don't respect laws and therefore ignore laws.
              That the Second Amendment applies to individual gun ownership.

              There, how's that for starters?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Just pick one.
                1) Stock Market through the roof: - continued on pre T trajectory, had an unnatural acceleration that was corrected.

                2) Unemployment at historic lows and dropping (especially for Blacks and Hispanics) :Actually leveled out, unsustainably low level, in fact. "New jobs" created are low end BS compared to what's been lost.

                3) Growth rising faster than expected: Expected by who? The 4% promised?

                4) Manufacturing returning to the US: If by manufacturing you mean call center jobs, OK.

                5) Illegal immigration capitulating: Ok I'll give you that one. Not feeling very welcome! : -)

                6) DACA kids and meaningful boarder security finally being addressed: No progress to date. Talk is cheap.

                6) ISIS wiped out, it's leader injured and on the run: temporarily shut down caliphate city, but individual actors and online immitators are the real problem in US.

                7) Sensible gun control and mental health legislation in motion: Progress to date? Talk is cheap.

                8) Infrastructure being addressed: Progress to date? Ridiculous proposal rejected out of hand by most stakeholder. What is this the 4th "infrastructure week"? Can we get it going yet?

                9) American energy prowess expanding: "Clean beautiful coal, baby! Drill, baby drill!"

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That cars are the same as guns and if you ban guns you should ban cars.
                  That teachers, who Republicans don't want to pay and don't want to teach, should now be armed counterterrorist responders.
                  That assault rifles are the same as every other gun, such as bolt-action or muzzle loaders, and only have decorative trappings that do not aid in their function.
                  That banning semiautomatics won't make these guns unavailable.
                  That there should be no laws, because criminals don't respect laws and therefore ignore laws.
                  That the Second Amendment applies to individual gun ownership.

                  There, how's that for starters?
                  Most of these are very weak..

                  These are positions from "some people" but they are not "Republican Positions" with exception of allowing teachers to carry, even then you'll have lots disagreement between republicans.

                  As far as the second amendment. SCOTUS has repeatedly disagreed with you. Wiki does a good job summarizing the history:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second...s_Constitution

                  Scholl down to: Conflict and compromise in Congress produce the Bill of Rights

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Who would deny the great theater that this event proved to be?

                    Who would deny the seriousness of the attendees that our government must take action now?

                    But who would deny that this theater, should it lead to nothing changed, proved to be little more than a publicity move by the President's team?

                    It's up to the President now to make this more than just theater, isn't it?
                    If he does it, you mock it as 'great theatre'. If he doesn't, you mock him as hiding.

                    Nobody

                    Nobody

                    Yes.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      1) Stock Market through the roof: - continued on pre T trajectory, had an unnatural acceleration that was corrected.

                      2) Unemployment at historic lows and dropping (especially for Blacks and Hispanics) :Actually leveled out, unsustainably low level, in fact. "New jobs" created are low end BS compared to what's been lost.

                      3) Growth rising faster than expected: Expected by who? The 4% promised?

                      4) Manufacturing returning to the US: If by manufacturing you mean call center jobs, OK.

                      5) Illegal immigration capitulating: Ok I'll give you that one. Not feeling very welcome! : -)

                      6) DACA kids and meaningful boarder security finally being addressed: No progress to date. Talk is cheap.

                      6) ISIS wiped out, it's leader injured and on the run: temporarily shut down caliphate city, but individual actors and online immitators are the real problem in US.

                      7) Sensible gun control and mental health legislation in motion: Progress to date? Talk is cheap.

                      8) Infrastructure being addressed: Progress to date? Ridiculous proposal rejected out of hand by most stakeholder. What is this the 4th "infrastructure week"? Can we get it going yet?

                      9) American energy prowess expanding: "Clean beautiful coal, baby! Drill, baby drill!"
                      1) The stock market is not the economy.
                      2) Continuing a trend established by Obama. YW.
                      3) Growth less than promised, as you say. Less than Obama growth, too.
                      4) #FakeNews. Carrier and others exporting jobs. Any jobs coming, such as BMW production, were planned in the Obama years.
                      5) Illegal immigration is down thanks to Obama, who deported way more than previous presidents.
                      6) No Daca solution. No wall. The wall is stupid. But, if Mexico pays, I'll deal with one.
                      7) No sensible gun control. Talk is cheap. Trump and Co. are waiting for the latest shooting to fade away.
                      8) Proposals about infrastructure are unfunded, as is everything Trump proposes.
                      9) Clean coal. Right. More idiotic rhetoric believed and repeated by those who profit and their serfs, the less educated members of society.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        If he does it, you mock it as 'great theatre'. If he doesn't, you mock him as hiding.

                        Nobody

                        Nobody

                        Yes.
                        Since my personal integrity is important, and if real progress on gun control is clearly made, would you not think I would recognize the importance of this event and the President's initiative as it's impetus?

                        Do you think that I put party before country? Where is your evidence?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          1) Stock Market through the roof: - continued on pre T trajectory, had an unnatural acceleration that was corrected.

                          2) Unemployment at historic lows and dropping (especially for Blacks and Hispanics) :Actually leveled out, unsustainably low level, in fact. "New jobs" created are low end BS compared to what's been lost.

                          3) Growth rising faster than expected: Expected by who? The 4% promised?

                          4) Manufacturing returning to the US: If by manufacturing you mean call center jobs, OK.

                          5) Illegal immigration capitulating: Ok I'll give you that one. Not feeling very welcome! : -)

                          6) DACA kids and meaningful boarder security finally being addressed: No progress to date. Talk is cheap.

                          6) ISIS wiped out, it's leader injured and on the run: temporarily shut down caliphate city, but individual actors and online immitators are the real problem in US.

                          7) Sensible gun control and mental health legislation in motion: Progress to date? Talk is cheap.

                          8) Infrastructure being addressed: Progress to date? Ridiculous proposal rejected out of hand by most stakeholder. What is this the 4th "infrastructure week"? Can we get it going yet?

                          9) American energy prowess expanding: "Clean beautiful coal, baby! Drill, baby drill!"
                          At least you're conceding to 3 from the earlier position that all are false. As far as the first two, Obama did nothing to help the economy he was completely removed from any efforts to impact it after republicans took control in 2010. The market grew faster than after any president in history with Trump (that's a fact, even with the correction). Growth (including wage growth) is growing faster than economist predicted, hence the correction and fear the Feds will rein it in. Manufacturing jobs are also growing faster than predicted this a fact that is substantiated by labor statistics.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            At least you're conceding to 3 from the earlier position that all are false. As far as the first two, Obama did nothing to help the economy he was completely removed from any efforts to impact it after republicans took control in 2010. The market grew faster than after any president in history with Trump (that's a fact, even with the correction). Growth (including wage growth) is growing faster than economist predicted, hence the correction and fear the Feds will rein it in. Manufacturing jobs are also growing faster than predicted this a fact that is substantiated by labor statistics.
                            Those were my edits above, and I really can't argue with what you just posted here.
                            My original position should have been read in John Oliver's voice for maximum enjoyment! : -)

                            I'm willing to say that while the initial list has the defect of counting "proposals" or Talking points" as "done deals", hopefully some of that does get done. Some of it, the reaction is more to the mean-spirited approach he takes to these issues. And the fact that he's a deliberate troll (not intended as an insult) in his approach. I get that some people dig that, though.

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                              The gift that keeps on giving

                              After news that Parkland's armed officer did not go into the school during the shooting, Trump just said that he wants schools to arm teachers because security guards don't "love the children" like the teachers do

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                                He is simply not an intelligent man. Greed does equal intelligence.

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