Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

[Unregistered]

Too funny ... rattle the cage and the chimps go wild....

So I take it from your defensive and largely nonsensical diatribe that you are OK with the Russkies interfering with elections...(as per Giuliani) and that everybody but tRUMP is a liar... you are creating your own Stalin .... doesn't sound too patriotic to me

The number on leader on interfering with elections in the world is the USA. Before Russia was today's Russia.

" interfering with the elections by the Russians" is a rather general term conjured up over and over to keep the narrative going. Let's review.
No votes were changed. No voters were coerced, forced or pressured to vote on the day of the election, at their polling location. No voter was prevented from voting for Hillary. A free and fair election, without any challenges to the results in a Court of Law.

Of course, since Hillary lost, Dems boycotted the inauguration, tried to get the electors to change their votes, have raised the point of abolishing the Electoral College, and have filed over 100 lawsuits all over the country regarding the President. Despite over 2 years , $ 25 million dollars, thousands of interviews, hundreds of subpoenas and examining and unbelievable number of documents, the results were that there was no " collusion" .

So now there is a call for more investigations, more " fact finding" , as if the House will be able to find that that Mueller, who they once had on a Pedestal , was wrong. We were told that he would deliver the goods. We were told that Trump was going down. We were told that his family would be led out of the White House in handcuffs. All based on lies.

So the only " interfering with elections" going on is this continued fiasco . Ask yourself if the Mueller Report was released before the mid terms , could it have changed the results?
In the very beginning, Mueller knew what Peter knew after 6 months of the FBI investigation. " nothing there" . The first part, the " no collusion " conclusion could have , and maybe should have been written in the first week. And now the Dems and the MSM will carry on and on, keeping the narrative alive to get votes. All based on sensationalism and lies. What's nest, resurrect the Horoscope angle again ?

The second part of the Mueller Report is political trash that has nothing to do with due process and the confines and obligations of a Prosecutor. Is there evidence? Indict. Is there enough to think that a conviction is possible ? Indict. If not, shut up and go on to the next case. Hundreds of pages of weaving a web without a conclusion is great entertainment , chock full of everything a dishonest media needs and wants to continue their narrative, but it does absolutely nothing to address Justice.

The only " Stalin" being created is by Progressive Dems. Say the wrong thing, and they'll protest. Shut you down. Boycott. A smiling adolescent on the screen is a target, before the facts are known. If you don't like the songs someone sang nearly a 100 years ago, take her statue down. If you don;t like that painting, that mural , someone's expression of art from the past, smash it , burn it, paint over it.

[Unregistered]

So tell me again who is Putin's lapdog? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/19/o...gs/index.html/

[Unregistered]

So what you are saying is there is ...."Nothing wrong with taking info from Russians"

Are you saying that as citizens, what we " take" as info from other humans beings should be analyzed, approved, and agreed upon by others to determine if it is correct and worthy , and carries weight ? Then we can have that information for ourselves? Only then ?

[Unregistered]

The number on leader on interfering with elections in the world is the USA. Before Russia was today's Russia.

" interfering with the elections by the Russians" is a rather general term conjured up over and over to keep the narrative going. Let's review.
No votes were changed. No voters were coerced, forced or pressured to vote on the day of the election, at their polling location. No voter was prevented from voting for Hillary. A free and fair election, without any challenges to the results in a Court of Law.

Of course, since Hillary lost, Dems boycotted the inauguration, tried to get the electors to change their votes, have raised the point of abolishing the Electoral College, and have filed over 100 lawsuits all over the country regarding the President. Despite over 2 years , $ 25 million dollars, thousands of interviews, hundreds of subpoenas and examining and unbelievable number of documents, the results were that there was no " collusion" .

So now there is a call for more investigations, more " fact finding" , as if the House will be able to find that that Mueller, who they once had on a Pedestal , was wrong. We were told that he would deliver the goods. We were told that Trump was going down. We were told that his family would be led out of the White House in handcuffs. All based on lies.

So the only " interfering with elections" going on is this continued fiasco . Ask yourself if the Mueller Report was released before the mid terms , could it have changed the results?
In the very beginning, Mueller knew what Peter knew after 6 months of the FBI investigation. " nothing there" . The first part, the " no collusion " conclusion could have , and maybe should have been written in the first week. And now the Dems and the MSM will carry on and on, keeping the narrative alive to get votes. All based on sensationalism and lies. What's nest, resurrect the Horoscope angle again ?

The second part of the Mueller Report is political trash that has nothing to do with due process and the confines and obligations of a Prosecutor. Is there evidence? Indict. Is there enough to think that a conviction is possible ? Indict. If not, shut up and go on to the next case. Hundreds of pages of weaving a web without a conclusion is great entertainment , chock full of everything a dishonest media needs and wants to continue their narrative, but it does absolutely nothing to address Justice.

The only " Stalin" being created is by Progressive Dems. Say the wrong thing, and they'll protest. Shut you down. Boycott. A smiling adolescent on the screen is a target, before the facts are known. If you don't like the songs someone sang nearly a 100 years ago, take her statue down. If you don;t like that painting, that mural , someone's expression of art from the past, smash it , burn it, paint over it.

A couple of things. I'll give you that we and other countries interfere in elections. We do it. If this were Russia and one of its candidates was caught red-handed taking stolen confidential information from the US about Dear Leader Putin that person would be rotting in a gulag in Siberia for eternity or dead. That's what occurred here. They took knowingly stolen information and used it for personal gain. I realize it doesn't bother you. That's your business. Your guy won and you don't care. No moral compass. I get it. It's just politics.

As to your second point, Mueller couldn't indict a sitting president. You know that. What they did is report the results of their investigation. No matter how much Barr lies about it, the report made clear that Mueller was constrained from indicting by the DOJ policy and not because he found that Trump was not guilty of collusion.

Envision this scenario: Bernie uses information on Trump's tax returns that was stolen by the Iranians. He goes on the air and encourages more thievery. That day the Iranians oblige. Trump loses. You really think the Repubs would just sit down and say no big deal, they were just using info taken by a hostile power? A la Giuliani, nothing wrong with taking stolen information from Iran. No biggie. How would you respond if something like that occurred to Trump? Honestly.

[Unregistered]

A couple of things. I'll give you that we and other countries interfere in elections. We do it. If this were Russia and one of its candidates was caught red-handed taking stolen confidential information from the US about Dear Leader Putin that person would be rotting in a gulag in Siberia for eternity or dead. That's what occurred here. They took knowingly stolen information and used it for personal gain. I realize it doesn't bother you. That's your business. Your guy won and you don't care. No moral compass. I get it. It's just politics.

As to your second point, Mueller couldn't indict a sitting president. You know that. What they did is report the results of their investigation. No matter how much Barr lies about it, the report made clear that Mueller was constrained from indicting by the DOJ policy and not because he found that Trump was not guilty of collusion.

Envision this scenario: Bernie uses information on Trump's tax returns that was stolen by the Iranians. He goes on the air and encourages more thievery. That day the Iranians oblige. Trump loses. You really think the Repubs would just sit down and say no big deal, they were just using info taken by a hostile power? A la Giuliani, nothing wrong with taking stolen information from Iran. No biggie. How would you respond if something like that occurred to Trump? Honestly.

Sorry, meant to say not indicted on obstruction rather than collusion.

[Unregistered]

A couple of things. I'll give you that we and other countries interfere in elections. We do it. If this were Russia and one of its candidates was caught red-handed taking stolen confidential information from the US about Dear Leader Putin that person would be rotting in a gulag in Siberia for eternity or dead. That's what occurred here. They took knowingly stolen information and used it for personal gain. I realize it doesn't bother you. That's your business. Your guy won and you don't care. No moral compass. I get it. It's just politics.

As to your second point, Mueller couldn't indict a sitting president. You know that. What they did is report the results of their investigation. No matter how much Barr lies about it, the report made clear that Mueller was constrained from indicting by the DOJ policy and not because he found that Trump was not guilty of collusion.

Envision this scenario: Bernie uses information on Trump's tax returns that was stolen by the Iranians. He goes on the air and encourages more thievery. That day the Iranians oblige. Trump loses. You really think the Repubs would just sit down and say no big deal, they were just using info taken by a hostile power? A la Giuliani, nothing wrong with taking stolen information from Iran. No biggie. How would you respond if something like that occurred to Trump? Honestly.

No one was caught " red handed". Red handed would indicate that through due process, after a full and comprehensive examination of the evidence , and most important , cross examination of the evidence by the accused, could the evidence have weight. That's not what we have here. What we have is a Prosecutor displaying what hi has uncovered. An opinion. None of it was able to be cross examined, the evidence challenged, the witnesses cross examined , etc. The entire process is outside our Judicial system as spelled out in the Constitution. What we have with the Mueller Investigation is the result of polices and regulations made by Legislators . What would have been perhaps interesting if these conclusions, if they resulted in charges, would have been upheld by SCOTUS. The DNC server was paramount to any accusations of hacking, and it was never surrendered. A clone, or copy was presented to Comey. he accepted that, fully knowing the the Law doe snot treat a copy as evidence when the original is not produced for examination and scrutiny.

I don't care who won. What I care about is if every American who voted did so of their own free will. There is absolutely no evidence to the contrary.

Mueller was never given the authority to indict the President. That wasn't his job. His job was to investigate and REPORT his findings to the AG, who would consider the next steps as warranted by the weight of what was uncovered. Your assumptions regarding Mueller are opinions, mind reading. He was hardly constrained. Everything was turned over, every document surrendered , every witness questioned. No one hid. Nothing was bleached or shredded. Your accusations that Barr lied are contrary to what his position is. He , as AG, offers an opinion. An opinion can't be a lie. You may disagree with the facts as presented, and of his conclusions, but he didn't lie.

Regarding your fantasy, it is just that, fantasy. It is foolish to consider " what if " without knowing " what else". The " what else " in the case of Trump is what Obama, the DOG, Hillary , Fusion GPS and other Dems , their server , etc. had to do with it. We will hear about that from the Inspector General.

[Unregistered]

Are you saying that as citizens, what we " take" as info from other humans beings should be analyzed, approved, and agreed upon by others to determine if it is correct and worthy , and carries weight ? Then we can have that information for ourselves? Only then ?

No I am asking (not saying) if you think there is anything wrong with Giuliani saying."Nothing wrong with taking info from Russians"...
i.e. yes/no/maybe are the possible responses...
(as opposed to you sticking your head in the sand and saying you don't see anything -- or turning a simple question into a series of delaying questions).

ps I understand that giving a truthful answer might be difficult for you

[Unregistered]

No one was caught " red handed". Red handed would indicate that through due process, after a full and comprehensive examination of the evidence , and most important , cross examination of the evidence by the accused, could the evidence have weight. That's not what we have here. What we have is a Prosecutor displaying what hi has uncovered. An opinion. None of it was able to be cross examined, the evidence challenged, the witnesses cross examined , etc. The entire process is outside our Judicial system as spelled out in the Constitution. What we have with the Mueller Investigation is the result of polices and regulations made by Legislators . What would have been perhaps interesting if these conclusions, if they resulted in charges, would have been upheld by SCOTUS. The DNC server was paramount to any accusations of hacking, and it was never surrendered. A clone, or copy was presented to Comey. he accepted that, fully knowing the the Law doe snot treat a copy as evidence when the original is not produced for examination and scrutiny.

I don't care who won. What I care about is if every American who voted did so of their own free will. There is absolutely no evidence to the contrary.

Mueller was never given the authority to indict the President. That wasn't his job. His job was to investigate and REPORT his findings to the AG, who would consider the next steps as warranted by the weight of what was uncovered. Your assumptions regarding Mueller are opinions, mind reading. He was hardly constrained. Everything was turned over, every document surrendered , every witness questioned. No one hid. Nothing was bleached or shredded. Your accusations that Barr lied are contrary to what his position is. He , as AG, offers an opinion. An opinion can't be a lie. You may disagree with the facts as presented, and of his conclusions, but he didn't lie.

Regarding your fantasy, it is just that, fantasy. It is foolish to consider " what if " without knowing " what else". The " what else " in the case of Trump is what Obama, the DOG, Hillary , Fusion GPS and other Dems , their server , etc. had to do with it. We will hear about that from the Inspector General.

I get it. The unanimous consensus of our investigative agencies that the DNC was hacked illegally by Russians isn't good enough for you because you know better than them. You need to see the actual server because you know that without it none of these agencies could have drawn those conclusions. Pathetic but par for the course when you want to blame everyone besides your own campaign. Understood.

As to the "fantasy scenario" you try to rationalize, none of what you list is relevant. If the information was obtained illegally by Iran like it was by the Russians (and I know that you, as an authority, say there isn't sufficient proof that it was obtained illegally), do you believe that any of the Dems can use it against Trump without repercussion? Very simple question: Iran obtained Trump's tax returns illegally, knowing that it did the Dems publish those returns and campaign using them. You ok with that?

I know you won't answer and will deflect. Which to me means yes, you would would be against this conduct.

[Unregistered]

I get it. The unanimous consensus of our investigative agencies that the DNC was hacked illegally by Russians isn't good enough for you because you know better than them. You need to see the actual server because you know that without it none of these agencies could have drawn those conclusions. Pathetic but par for the course when you want to blame everyone besides your own campaign. Understood.

As to the "fantasy scenario" you try to rationalize, none of what you list is relevant. If the information was obtained illegally by Iran like it was by the Russians (and I know that you, as an authority, say there isn't sufficient proof that it was obtained illegally), do you believe that any of the Dems can use it against Trump without repercussion? Very simple question: Iran obtained Trump's tax returns illegally, knowing that it did the Dems publish those returns and campaign using them. You ok with that?

I know you won't answer and will deflect. Which to me means yes, you would would be against this conduct.

It isn't that I know better, it is just that the system we have is such that a crime has to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Should I start listing those times in the history of politics and government that intelligence agencies and administrations lied ? Misrepresented issues ? As we are seeing now, you had former heads of the CIA on TV lying . You had " sources" , said as being from within the Government giving false information and leaking information on a regular basis.

There isn't any defection from a question that borders on silly. Deal with what we have, not some fantasy. You had the Dems and their MSM for over two years calling the President " a traitor " , " a puppet of Putin " , " Treasonous " , without any evidence. And yet, when still no evidence can be produced , refusing to accept the conclusion of the process they told us to wait to hear from.

And now, the DNC Talking points are all about " obstruction" . A quick one two- look the other way. The same people lying and cheering on the lies about " collusion" want you to know have faith in what they believe.

Here's the reality. There is nothing Impeachable about Trump's part in all of this. They all know it. They need to milk it for political traction. Go ahead Dems in the House, draw up the Articles of Impeachment. Send them to the Senate for trial. They will spend 10 minutes on it like the Green New deal Vote NO . and call the Dems out as an empty shell of a party, which they now are.

Go ahead. I dare them. Swallwell, Nader, Schiff, go ahead, make my day. Isn't it a clue to you to see who the rational one is ? Pelosi knows.

If you want Trump out of the White House, you are going to have to do it like he won it. In a free and fair election through the Will of the people. That's what kills the spirit of the Dems, that's what is behind the hysteria. They just couldn't believe that America didn't buy into Hillary. Their reactions and behavior from Day One speaks volumes.

[Unregistered]

Trump is sweating bullets that Don McGahn is being called to testify in front of Congress. The guy was a lackey for Trump, but even he drew the line at actually breaking the law for Trump.

[Unregistered]

They impeached Clinton for lying about a blow job. Trump's been lying about basically everything AND trying to get others to break the law.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,”

Lindsay Graham 1999

[Unregistered]

They impeached Clinton for lying about a blow job. Trump's been lying about basically everything AND trying to get others to break the law.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,”

Lindsay Graham 1999

Perjury under Oath is not the same a lying.

Have you reviewed the Federalist papers regarding what conduct was considered for Impeachment , and what was not ? Maybe you should.

[Unregistered]

Trump is sweating bullets that Don McGahn is being called to testify in front of Congress. The guy was a lackey for Trump, but even he drew the line at actually breaking the law for Trump.

What's wrong the " walls are closing in" isn't good enough anymore?

You Dems are hysterical.

[Unregistered]

It isn't that I know better, it is just that the system we have is such that a crime has to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Should I start listing those times in the history of politics and government that intelligence agencies and administrations lied ? Misrepresented issues ? As we are seeing now, you had former heads of the CIA on TV lying . You had " sources" , said as being from within the Government giving false information and leaking information on a regular basis.

There isn't any defection from a question that borders on silly. Deal with what we have, not some fantasy. You had the Dems and their MSM for over two years calling the President " a traitor " , " a puppet of Putin " , " Treasonous " , without any evidence. And yet, when still no evidence can be produced , refusing to accept the conclusion of the process they told us to wait to hear from.

And now, the DNC Talking points are all about " obstruction" . A quick one two- look the other way. The same people lying and cheering on the lies about " collusion" want you to know have faith in what they believe.

Here's the reality. There is nothing Impeachable about Trump's part in all of this. They all know it. They need to milk it for political traction. Go ahead Dems in the House, draw up the Articles of Impeachment. Send them to the Senate for trial. They will spend 10 minutes on it like the Green New deal Vote NO . and call the Dems out as an empty shell of a party, which they now are.

Go ahead. I dare them. Swallwell, Nader, Schiff, go ahead, make my day. Isn't it a clue to you to see who the rational one is ? Pelosi knows.

If you want Trump out of the White House, you are going to have to do it like he won it. In a free and fair election through the Will of the people. That's what kills the spirit of the Dems, that's what is behind the hysteria. They just couldn't believe that America didn't buy into Hillary. Their reactions and behavior from Day One speaks volumes.

The response I expected from you. He was cleared of coordination with Russia using the same exact process that didn't clear him of obstruction. You take the coordination conclusion and run with it, saying that he was cleared. When it comes to obstruction you want a trial and witness cross examination.

Saying there is nothing impeachable about the president directing his subordinates to lie and then double down and lying about it is surely impeachable, or the 11 other instances of potential obstruction. Sort of like what happened with Clinton. He would of course be impeached by the democratic house but certainly not by the republican senate. It's a political decision as to whether to go that route. I personally don't think it's worth it. Let the voters decide in 2020. But don't sweep his actions under the rug like you would prefer to do. I, like you, would love to see witness testimony so that the Republicans can cross examine McGhan, Mueller, hopefully Trump Jr., Kushner and others. They deserve the opportunity to try and prove your point. Can't do it without live witness testimony for the entire country to observe so that we can judge their credibility as you would like. I am sure you are on board with that, right?

And finally, thanks for agreeing with me that if the shoe was on the other foot you would cry bloody murder. Again, Iran obtains Trump's tax returns illegality. There is no debate that they were obtained illegally and also no debate that the Dems had no involvement in the manner in which Iran obtained the tax returns illegally. You have confirmed that you would have a real problem with the Dems encouraging further thievery by Iran and using that illegally obtained information. Thank you. I knew you would agree.

[Unregistered]

The response I expected from you. He was cleared of coordination with Russia using the same exact process that didn't clear him of obstruction. You take the coordination conclusion and run with it, saying that he was cleared. When it comes to obstruction you want a trial and witness cross examination.

Saying there is nothing impeachable about the president directing his subordinates to lie and then double down and lying about it is surely impeachable, or the 11 other instances of potential obstruction. Sort of like what happened with Clinton. He would of course be impeached by the democratic house but certainly not by the republican senate. It's a political decision as to whether to go that route. I personally don't think it's worth it. Let the voters decide in 2020. But don't sweep his actions under the rug like you would prefer to do. I, like you, would love to see witness testimony so that the Republicans can cross examine McGhan, Mueller, hopefully Trump Jr., Kushner and others. They deserve the opportunity to try and prove your point. Can't do it without live witness testimony for the entire country to observe so that we can judge their credibility as you would like. I am sure you are on board with that, right?

And finally, thanks for agreeing with me that if the shoe was on the other foot you would cry bloody murder. Again, Iran obtains Trump's tax returns illegality. There is no debate that they were obtained illegally and also no debate that the Dems had no involvement in the manner in which Iran obtained the tax returns illegally. You have confirmed that you would have a real problem with the Dems encouraging further thievery by Iran and using that illegally obtained information. Thank you. I knew you would agree.

Clear him of obstruction? That wasn't the intent of the Investigation. The intent of the Investigation was the alleged Russian Meddling and any participation of Trump and his associates. None was found.

Therefore, volume 2 is presented, beyond the scope of what a Prosecutor is charged to do.
He was unable to find any reason to opine that obstruction had taken place, so as his place as a Prosecutor is to find reason to prosecute or not , he did not. Cut and dry. Indict or don't indict. The political posturing( because that is all it is ) regarding anything else goes out the door. It is irrelevant . For many reasons. The principal one being if there wasn't any conduct that would lead to criminal culpability, there can be no charges to obstruct. Telling people to do things that they don't do is not obstruction. He is the President. He is an elected Official directing employees . If those employees commit a crime, then they can point the finger. No crimes ? Nothing there. Second, his ability to make decisions and give orders is quite clear as President. Others may not agree, but he is the President. If those others think he has gone outside of his powers, they have due process to go through.

Go ahead, question anyone and everyone, if they bother to show up. Ask Eric Holder how that works. It will go nowhere. Dems are desperate. Collusion blew up in their face, and now they are trying to sell Impeachment based on obstructing a crime that was alleged, but never proven. And the real shame is that Dems won't give it up to concentrate on all the real problems to solve. This hysterical nonsense has done nothing to improve or help the lives of Americans.

And I am telling you to review the Federalist papers on Impeachment. There is nothing here that is Impeachable. Nothing. Nancy knows it. She is just stalling, telling them all to keep digging. You had a Fresh Dem in the House yelling " impeach the M..f..er" before any Report was even issued. That's great isn't it? An elected Official , without any evidence, keeping the negative rhetoric flowing. That's the new Democratic Leadership being ushered in. The heck with due process, we're here now.

Each and every Day , the Dems are showing the level of their pathetic derangement with their inability to accept anyone that offers contrary opinions or ideology, and when losing, go nearly ballistic and haywire like spoiled 2 year olds.