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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are a little behind the times. The House had concluded months ago there was no collusion. The Senate has concluded this month there was no collusion. Muller would have indicted someone already for collusion if there was collusion (or more accurately conspiracy). All they found was Stone contacting Wiki leaks after emails were made public along with thousands of news agencies trying to do the same thing at the same time. Basically Stone doing his job is what they found.
    I agree but let's see if fuktard will agree when the report comes out as nothing. Right now he loves mueller, next week he will start calling mueller putin's lapdog.

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      Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So when mueller's report comes out next week will you stand by it? Will you apologize for all the times you said he was colluding and putin's lapdog? Or will you start to trash mueller if after two years he has nothing on trump. For me, if it comes out and has real evidence of collusion I say we fry trump.
      What I said repeatedly is that there is clear evidence of collusion between the Trump CAMPAIGN and Russia. If the report (that Kelly Anne says we may never see) concludes no such collusion then I will respect that conclusion. I think there is circumstantial evidence regarding Trump's personal involvement with his campaign's collusion, but for that I would need to see more proof. But if that evidence emerges, I agree with you, fry Trump. From what I've seen, there appears to be more than sufficient evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russia. But if Mueller disagrees then I must defer to him.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        My responses are above.
        --You must be a lawyer since you are twisting my words. I said that he lied about having any "dealings" with Russia. You admit that Trump lied about this over and over. You do. You just say that a letter of intent is not a "deal." However you characterize a letter of intent, Trump was dealing with Russia. Dealing is "a personal connection or association with someone." Trump had that with Russia. Plus he and his associates had over 100 separate contacts (dealings) with Russia before the inauguration. So yes, as you admit, he lied over and over . As did those who had dealings with Russia on behalf of his campaign.
        https://www.vox.com/2018/11/30/18119...als-statements

        **No I’m just saying Trump is on the right side of these and not lying. He has repeatedly said he has no deals with Russia as well. He may have used the word dealings once or twice but many more times he has said no deals or specifically said no Russian banks. The media questions were directed at business deals. He probably had several interactions with many countries going on at the same time. You are now conflating business deals with dealings with Russia and his campaign associates. Most if not all the dealings with Russia and his associates are Russians reaching out to the campaign not the other way around.

        --Got it. Standard operating procedure to lie about every aspect of your dealings with Russia to the American people is just fine. As long as you control the media narrative. Got it. But absolutely an absurd excuse for the US President about a meeting he once claimed never happened.

        **A meeting that was as insignificant as that one yes, completely fine with him controlling the narrative. Now controlling the narrative about Benghazi a couple weeks after the attack when you had evidence to the contrary where Americans had died, that’s 1000% more slimy.

        -Jr. denying and then admitting to the same when the idiots emails became public
        Jr made them public. Had nothing to hide, still has nothing to hide and everyone that has gone public and discussed with Muller has corroborated Jr’s story.

        Umm, no. Actually, his story changed multiple times until the evidence was staring him right in his face.

        https://www.npr.org/2017/07/09/53634...nfo-for-campai

        **That is SOP in controlling the narrative. Again it was so insignificant Jr released the emails to the public.


        --So you don't see this as any evidence of collusion? None? Meeting with government officials to share tightly guarded polling data? Wow.

        **Really, you think polling data is some valuable government asset? So you believed Hilary was going to win as well based on those valuable polls?

        --Actually, having contact with Wiki Leaks to coordinate the release of stolen emails is a crime. But it is also evidence of collusion. We will find out more about this. And btw, while you admit that he did have direct contacts with Wiki Leaks, Stone has denied it. So there's that.

        **Where does it say in the indictment that Stone was coordinating the release of stolen emails? He was trying to gather information about what was coming next just like all news agencies were worldwide. He was doing his job.


        --I've seen his tacit admissions and then denials. Tell me, does Trump agree that Russia meddled in the elections with the goal of helping Trump win the election? Let me know, because that's what his government concluded.

        **He doesn’t have to and it would be silly for him to do so. He would fall into the media’s trap if he did.

        --I see. You mean after McCabe revealed to McConnel, Ryan, Burr and Nunez that he was opening up an investigation on Trump and they had no objection, you would understand why Trump would side with Putin over every agency in his own government on this critical issue before the entire world? Got it. Makes perfect sense.

        ** How do you know they had no objections? That meeting was classified.


        --This is such a talking point. He resisted all of the sanctions imposed by Congress and was forced to relent after Congress passed veto-proof legislation. Then he refused to enforce the sanctions. Yeah, that's pretty tough of him.

        ** Yet he gave anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, is talking about adding missile defense in the EU, pulled out of the nuclear weapons treaty so he can target Russia with new weapons, bombed and killed 200 Russian mercenaries in Syria and the biggest killer of all Trump’s pro-oil and natural gas policies are significantly hurting Putin economically. Much more effective than sanctions.

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          At least 6 months ago I posted that mueller would end with a whimper- caught a lot of crap but in the end he will provide very little to satisfy the left
          He got a couple of process crime convictions which is total bs but he did hammer Manafort for crimes committed well before trump was a political player- so he can take his check for doing something. My guess is that they release the factual part of the report what they won’t do is release the parts that are circumstantial, which is really what the left wants
          In the end other than Manafort the real league jeopardy is for the top of the FBI- those guys are looking at real trouble and McCabe isn’t helping. He is actually putting nails in their collective coffins

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            Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            At least 6 months ago I posted that mueller would end with a whimper- caught a lot of crap but in the end he will provide very little to satisfy the left
            He got a couple of process crime convictions which is total bs but he did hammer Manafort for crimes committed well before trump was a political player- so he can take his check for doing something. My guess is that they release the factual part of the report what they won’t do is release the parts that are circumstantial, which is really what the left wants
            In the end other than Manafort the real league jeopardy is for the top of the FBI- those guys are looking at real trouble and McCabe isn’t helping. He is actually putting nails in their collective coffins
            He got convictions and guilty pleas. Which ones are process crimes that are bs?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              At least 6 months ago I posted that mueller would end with a whimper- caught a lot of crap but in the end he will provide very little to satisfy the left
              He got a couple of process crime convictions which is total bs but he did hammer Manafort for crimes committed well before trump was a political player- so he can take his check for doing something. My guess is that they release the factual part of the report what they won’t do is release the parts that are circumstantial, which is really what the left wants
              In the end other than Manafort the real league jeopardy is for the top of the FBI- those guys are looking at real trouble and McCabe isn’t helping. He is actually putting nails in their collective coffins
              Mueller is constrained by the limitations of his mandate. Being a good doobie he is staying in his lane. His report very well might not show "collusion" with Russia. But other investigations are ongoing and this isn't over yet.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                He got convictions and guilty pleas. Which ones are process crimes that are bs?
                No doubt the op thinks lying to Congress and the FBI isn't a "big deal" nor is using campaign funds (illegally) to pay off porn stars

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                  Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  At least 6 months ago I posted that mueller would end with a whimper- caught a lot of crap but in the end he will provide very little to satisfy the left
                  He got a couple of process crime convictions which is total bs but he did hammer Manafort for crimes committed well before trump was a political player- so he can take his check for doing something. My guess is that they release the factual part of the report what they won’t do is release the parts that are circumstantial, which is really what the left wants
                  In the end other than Manafort the real league jeopardy is for the top of the FBI- those guys are looking at real trouble and McCabe isn’t helping. He is actually putting nails in their collective coffins
                  As for Manfort, the crime for which he will likely do substantial time (until the inevitable pardon) is witness tampering and lying to the FBI AFTER he entered into a plea agreement with the FBI. And what did he lie about . . . his repeated dealings with Russia and its government officials. Yeah, that sounds to me like crimes that he committed well before Trump was political player. Not.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    No doubt the op thinks lying to Congress and the FBI isn't a "big deal" nor is using campaign funds (illegally) to pay off porn stars
                    My point was simply that no crime existed prior to the investigation
                    The investigation created the crime
                    That’s why it’s called a process crime
                    Who exactly is charged with illegally paying off a porn start with campaign money?
                    Cohen isnt

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      As for Manfort, the crime for which he will likely do substantial time (until the inevitable pardon) is witness tampering and lying to the FBI AFTER he entered into a plea agreement with the FBI. And what did he lie about . . . his repeated dealings with Russia and its government officials. Yeah, that sounds to me like crimes that he committed well before Trump was political player. Not.
                      Then you need to brush up on your Manafort history- he played in the eastern euro sandbox for 20 years- couldn’t have possibly met any Russians there, could he?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Mueller is constrained by the limitations of his mandate. Being a good doobie he is staying in his lane. His report very well might not show "collusion" with Russia. But other investigations are ongoing and this isn't over yet.
                        Keep hope alive- you turds are hilarious
                        Keep going , trump may jaywalk soon- ANARCHY !!!

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          He got convictions and guilty pleas. Which ones are process crimes that are bs?
                          Flynn
                          Papadapoulous
                          Don’t even think they charged carter page
                          Corsi not charged
                          Stone
                          Russians won’t see discovery so they won’t go to trial

                          Big difference between obstruction - lying about a material fact
                          And lying- forgetting the date of a meeting
                          Both are lying one matters the other not so much

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Flynn
                            Papadapoulous
                            Don’t even think they charged carter page
                            Corsi not charged
                            Stone
                            Russians won’t see discovery so they won’t go to trial

                            Big difference between obstruction - lying about a material fact
                            And lying- forgetting the date of a meeting
                            Both are lying one matters the other not so much
                            https://nypost.com/2019/02/21/ocasio...ury-high-rise/

                            AOC denounces media for printing where she lives because she could have been attacked. She didn’t seem to be concerned when some democrat clown attacked rand Paul at his house and broke a couple of his ribs as he mowed his lawn.

                            What about when steve Scalise was shot while playing softball by a guy who was pissed at republicans.

                            What about when Maxine waters encourage democrats to accost trump cabinet members where they live, eat, etc?

                            What about the release of home addresses of republican lawmakers during the kavenaugh hearing?

                            Now she knows the hypocrisy.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              https://nypost.com/2019/02/21/ocasio...ury-high-rise/

                              AOC denounces media for printing where she lives because she could have been attacked. She didn’t seem to be concerned when some democrat clown attacked rand Paul at his house and broke a couple of his ribs as he mowed his lawn.

                              What about when steve Scalise was shot while playing softball by a guy who was pissed at republicans.

                              What about when Maxine waters encourage democrats to accost trump cabinet members where they live, eat, etc?

                              What about the release of home addresses of republican lawmakers during the kavenaugh hearing?

                              Now she knows the hypocrisy.

                              She is totally safe because she is simply entertainment value
                              Every couple of days she says something that makes libs squeal and Reps laugh
                              Then we club her dopey idea and wait for the next one- it’s like BP- swing for the fences boys

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                She is totally safe because she is simply entertainment value
                                Every couple of days she says something that makes libs squeal and Reps laugh
                                Then we club her dopey idea and wait for the next one- it’s like BP- swing for the fences boys
                                So far, no further comment. This from a guy who who played meathead on a sitcom about a bigot. This is the one quote I could link specifically to it being trump’s fault

                                Director Rob Reiner-twitter

                                “The horrific attack on Jussie Smollett has no place in a decent human loving society. Homophobia existed before Trump, but there is no question that since he has injected his hatred into the American bloodstream, we are less decent, less human, & less loving. No intolerance! No DT!”

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